Re: [SLUG] Yuk

2003-09-27 Thread Kevin Saenz
You could have a look or talk to someone from flow communication. I was at a corporate golf day with one of the guys from flow, who says that telstra is forcing people to use either dial-up or ISDN as they are the most profitable connection points for Telstra. Apparently Flow is implementing ADSL

Re: ADSL uptake is smalll. Re: [SLUG] Yuk

2003-09-27 Thread Ben de Luca
You obviously have never frequented the australian wireless list where you would be told time and time again that this sort of activity is illegal and you need a carrier liscence (sp?) for it. Without being cynical can you advise which legal document says operating 802.11b would require some form

RE: [SLUG] Yuk

2003-09-27 Thread Kevin Saenz
This is the last I will have to say on this topic. Why can't we let people test the waters before subscribing to this wonderful knowledge base. Then it is up to the person to subscribe. We will never get rid of 100% of spam. My question is as linux users and members of the list why don't you

Re: ADSL uptake is smalll. Re: [SLUG] Yuk

2003-09-27 Thread Karl Bowden
On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 16:33, Ben de Luca wrote: You obviously have never frequented the australian wireless list where you would be told time and time again that this sort of activity is illegal and you need a carrier liscence (sp?) for it. Without being cynical can you advise which

Re: ADSL uptake is smalll. Re: [SLUG] Yuk

2003-09-27 Thread Terry Collins
Ben de Luca wrote: The ACA pretty plainly states, that you only require a carrier license if you are conducting comercial activites across the network between two entities I think we agree on intent. I just decided it was easier to do my own thing rather than bother with any of the wireless

[SLUG]

2003-09-27 Thread jon
I seem to have touched a raw nerve with my previous comments.:-) Let me respond to the comments made. These are nor personal critisisms, just observations. I certainly don't take exception to your critisism - it is your right to make whatever comments you like, no matter how accurate or

Re: [SLUG]

2003-09-27 Thread doug foskey
On Saturday 27 September 2003 06:38 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I seem to have touched a raw nerve with my previous comments.:-) The only thing I would hate to happen is that people who are not financial members of SLUG, may at some time be refused membership of this list. Being resident

Re: [SLUG]

2003-09-27 Thread Terry Collins
doug foskey wrote: ...snip I do belong to our local group, GLUG however. Hasn't your wife twigged yet that it is really a drinking club {:-) -- Terry Collins {:-)}}} email: terryc at woa.com.au www: http://www.woa.com.au Wombat Outdoor Adventures Bicycles, Computers, GIS,

Re: [SLUG]

2003-09-27 Thread Tony Green
On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 18:56, doug foskey wrote: The only thing I would hate to happen is that people who are not financial members of SLUG, may at some time be refused membership of this list. Being resident in Lismore (area), I rarely go 'smoke, so would be unlikely ever to join Slug.

Re: [SLUG]

2003-09-27 Thread doug foskey
On Saturday 27 September 2003 07:15 pm, you wrote: doug foskey wrote: ...snip I do belong to our local group, GLUG however. Hasn't your wife twigged yet that it is really a drinking club {:-) Yep: Brewed coffee! ( occasional OD on Pizza!) Visitors welcome! Particularly if they can

[SLUG] Notice of motion at the next meeting.

2003-09-27 Thread Ken Foskey
On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 19:16, Tony Green wrote: I'd be stunned if that ever happened. Though I do think if there is to be a change to the list setup, it should be decided by a vote of the financial members. Let's cut the BS and really put it to the vote... As a financial member I would like

Re: [SLUG] Notice of motion at the next meeting.

2003-09-27 Thread Tony Green
On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 19:41, Ken Foskey wrote: Let's cut the BS and really put it to the vote... I can't speak for the ctte any more, but I emailed them today about it. Hopefully we can get an announce about the plans for the next meeting soon.. -- Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [SLUG] Notice of motion at the next meeting.

2003-09-27 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 19:41, Ken Foskey wrote: On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 19:16, Tony Green wrote: I'd be stunned if that ever happened. Though I do think if there is to be a change to the list setup, it should be decided by a vote of the financial members. Let's cut the BS and really put

Re: [SLUG] Notice of motion at the next meeting.

2003-09-27 Thread Ken Foskey
On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 19:43, Tony Green wrote: On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 19:41, Ken Foskey wrote: Let's cut the BS and really put it to the vote... I can't speak for the ctte any more, but I emailed them today about it. Hopefully we can get an announce about the plans for the next meeting

[SLUG] Affordable L|p Plumper that works

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Re: [SLUG] Notice of motion at the next meeting.

2003-09-27 Thread Jan Schmidt
quote who=Ken Foskey On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 19:52, Robert Collins wrote: Right. Formally: I intend to speak pro option a) at the meeting. I propose that we amend the motion, such that if there is no pro-option X speaker for each of the options, those options without a speaker are

Re: [SLUG] Notice of motion at the next meeting.

2003-09-27 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 20:34, Jan Schmidt wrote: Unless there is a speaker willing to address the meeting on behalf of an option, it will be removed from the list before the vote. I will speak for keeping the list as is. Rob -- GPG key available at:

[SLUG]

2003-09-27 Thread jon
-= I apologise for posting this to SLUG, but since I know Jon -= would 'accidentally' post it there when he responds anyway, -= it seemed worthwhile. Unfamiliar with the Laws of Libel, I see...:-) You've been hanging around with undesirables for too long... -= -= John, sounds like you've

Re: [SLUG]

2003-09-27 Thread Ken Foskey
Jon, (CC SLUG) OK will you turn up and present your case for change of list policy. If you cannot turn up in in person then please present your comments here and it will be read at the meeting. Until you actively do something please drop this thread! You have sought to clarify, SLUG has acted

[SLUG] HTTP_REFERER not found

2003-09-27 Thread education
Hi Sluggers: Setup: Url comes to site like this http://www.yourdomain.com/index.html?hop=some_data Q1. If I click on a link to go to another HTML page say name.html, I lose the hop data. How do I make the hop=some_data go with the name.html ? Q2. The order page calls a Perl script say

Re: [SLUG]

2003-09-27 Thread Jan Schmidt
Details on becoming a financial member are available here: http://www.slug.org.au/membership.html Cheers, Jan. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homer: No TV and No Beer make Homer something something Marge: Go Crazy? Homer: Don't mind if I do! rrrarrgghar!

RE: [SLUG] trouble booting.....Mounting local filesystems

2003-09-27 Thread Chris Barnes
Thanks heaps for your help on this. The below solution worked quite well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Airlie Sent: Saturday, 27 September 2003 12:07 PM To: Chris Barnes Cc: SLUG Subject: Re: [SLUG] trouble booting.Mounting

[SLUG] Can't ssh to another machine as a normal user; su root; then use vi

2003-09-27 Thread Mike Lake
Hi all, Now that Jill has 'upgraded' to Debian and it matches my Alpha's Debian it seems our systems are a little more careful of security than her old SUSE and I am having probs with logging in as root and editing with vi over X. I (mikel) am on machine martel and I ssh as user caves to machine

Re: ADSL uptake is smalll. Re: [SLUG] Yuk

2003-09-27 Thread Shaun Oliver
not to mention that some city slickers are still on either pairgains or rihms and either of them won't get ya adsl either -- Shaun Oliver Becareful of the toes u step on today, they maybe connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow! EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 76958435 YAHOO:

Re: [SLUG] Net connection: welcome to debian/credativ/whatever

2003-09-27 Thread Patrick Lesslie
Here's a fairly vague analysis ... Surely someone can just hit this nail on the head ... anyone? On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 09:30:23PM -0500, Hal Ashburner wrote: I'm writing from my parent's box which is running RH9 Gnome on the desktop, which incidentally as self-proclaimed 'proud luddites'

RE: [SLUG]

2003-09-27 Thread Jon Biddell
Which would make SLUG, as a whole, more elitist than it currently is. I just feel it's irresponsible to have a mailing list set up where any Tom, Dick or Harry can post anonimously Jon --- semper in excreto es sed profundum variat -= -Original

RE: ADSL uptake is smalll. Re: [SLUG] Yuk

2003-09-27 Thread Jon Biddell
Terry, what about broadband WiFi ? Would you be interested ? A trial system is being installed at the moment in my area (I will be one of the neighborhood POP's which, if successful, will be offered to people in Campbelltown and Central Cost areas as well... They are also going to expand into

RE: [SLUG]

2003-09-27 Thread Jon Biddell
You suggestion is accepted, Ken. As I am unavailable to be present at SLUG meetings, I present my arguments here for consideration. A members only can post list would; 1. Reduce greatly the amount of spam being received. This would occur by virtue of the fact that most spam is generated from

[SLUG] SLUG Commitee Meeting, 10th September 2003: minutes

2003-09-27 Thread Mary Gardiner
Present: Jamie Wilkinson (minutes), Jeff Waugh (chair), Tony Green, Jaime Hemmett, Peter Hardy, Jan Schmidt Apologies: Mary Gardiner Meeting opened 19:35 1. Ongoing tasks * Investigating discounts for SLUG members. Jamie announced that Anchor Systems are happy to provide discounted

[SLUG] Gnome menus

2003-09-27 Thread Matthew Davidson
Hi, I'm trying to customise Gnome menus for all users on a system. If I've read the documentation correctly, it should just be a matter of opening applications-all-users:/// in Nautilus (as root), and dropping .desktop files wherever I want them. Then when a user logs in, the changes should

Re: [SLUG] Net connection: welcome to debian/credativ/whatever

2003-09-27 Thread Hal Ashburner
Thank you very much for your analysis Patrick. Much appreciated. Just to clarify the points you have raised. The login screen is the gnome graphical login, where one types a user name, then password to use the computer. I believe the hostname of the computer is being set by the modem, as when I