[SLUG] Committee Nomination

Hey guys (and gals), I'd like to nominate Scott Sinclair (also known to some as praetorian) for the position of secretary. -Chris. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] Committee Nomination

I would like to nominate Michael Knight as SLUG's official Anthem Writer/Performer. -- James Purser Producer/Presenter - Linux Australia Update http://k-sit.com - My Blog http://la-pod.k-sit.com - Linux Australia Update Podcast,Blog and Forums Skype: purserj1977 SIP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG -

Re: [SLUG] Committee Nomination

On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 19:02 +1100, Chris Deigan wrote: Hey guys (and gals), I'd like to nominate Scott Sinclair (also known to some as praetorian) for the position of secretary. -Chris. As a non-financial/non-member member I second this nomination. -- James Purser Producer/Presenter -

Re: [SLUG] Committee Nomination

James Purser.quote; I would like to nominate Michael Knight as SLUG's official Anthem Writer/Performer. Seconded. -Chris. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

[SLUG] Fedora Core 5

Hi Sluggers, Just letting any interested sluggers to know that Fedora Core 5 has been released today (our time), about 8 hours ago. Many of the issues that were the subjects of posting lately are addressed in this release. E.g. Video, Sound, Beagle, Connectivity, plus more. Downloads

[SLUG] recursively chmod directories ONLY

Hi Slugs, I'm still working on this but any quick help i'll welcome. how do you recursively chmod directories only and not files. I want to recursively chmod files to 644 and directories to 755. what is the quickest way? I thought i'd do the files first and then the dirs as in... chmod -R 644

Re: [SLUG] recursively chmod directories ONLY

Ben Donohue wrote: Hi Slugs, I'm still working on this but any quick help i'll welcome. how do you recursively chmod directories only and not files. I want to recursively chmod files to 644 and directories to 755. what is the quickest way? I thought i'd do the files first and then

Re: [SLUG] recursively chmod directories ONLY

quote who=Ben Donohue how do you recursively chmod directories only and not files. find -type d | xargs chmod +rws Another trick is to use chmod -R +rX, which will make directories +x but not files. That serves a major use case, but doesn't handle every occasion. - Jeff -- GUADEC 2006:

Re: [SLUG] recursively chmod directories ONLY

quote who=Erik de Castro Lopo find top level dir -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; That runs chmod separately for every directory found. Use xargs. :-) - Jeff -- FISL 7.0: Porto Alegre, Brazilhttp://fisl.softwarelivre.org/7.0/www/ Spanish Flu, the epidemic that killed 50 million

Re: [SLUG] recursively chmod directories ONLY

Thanks Erik, Jeff Erik's solution works but I'm sorry Jeff your's didn't, unless i've missed something. I'm using CentOS 4.2 Ben Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Ben Donohue wrote: Hi Slugs, I'm still working on this but any quick help i'll welcome. how do you recursively chmod directories

Re: [SLUG] recursively chmod directories ONLY

quote who=Ben Donohue Erik's solution works but I'm sorry Jeff your's didn't, unless i've missed something. I hope you didn't use +rws, as that was only an example. The actual command you're looking for is: find see-below -type d | xargs chmod 644 Where see-below is nothing for the current

Re: [SLUG] recursively chmod directories ONLY

Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Erik de Castro Lopo find top level dir -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; That runs chmod separately Yeah, I know, but if I need to do it once every couple of months, who cares. for every directory found. Use xargs. :-) If you want to complicate matters :-)

Re: [SLUG] recursively chmod directories ONLY

Ahhh yes that's it. My apologies! I /was /missing something... late in the day etc., etc. anyway it works now. Thanks again, Ben (I shall read up on find and xargs commands too.) Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Ben Donohue Erik's solution works but I'm sorry Jeff your's didn't, unless i've

Re: [SLUG] recursively chmod directories ONLY

quote who=Erik de Castro Lopo for every directory found. Use xargs. :-) If you want to complicate matters :-) find's {} \; crackrock vs. xargs ... COMPLICATES matters?! You are staining SLUG's proud history of shell-fu. ;-) - Jeff -- GUADEC 2006: Vilanova i la Geltrú, Spain

Re: [SLUG] recursively chmod directories ONLY

Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Erik de Castro Lopo for every directory found. Use xargs. :-) If you want to complicate matters :-) find's {} \; crackrock vs. xargs ... COMPLICATES matters?! You are staining SLUG's proud history of shell-fu. ;-) Ooop, sorry, you are right. We should

Re: [SLUG] HW exp with Dec Alpha Servers?

James Gray wrote: Other reasons why Alpha's wont workwell, that would require them to at least have power. Not much help, but what does dead in the water really mean in this case? Okay, both machines have done at least 10 years in Australia and haven't left the country since arrival

Re: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

Howard Lowndes wrote: Yep, I've had a torrent running since this morning, currently just under 25% but it took a while to get up near saturation speed on my download. I saw that the extras were available 24 hours earlier so I have already pulled them into my repo. The download is somewhat

Re: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

Yep, I've had a torrent running since this morning, currently just under 25% but it took a while to get up near saturation speed on my download. I saw that the extras were available 24 hours earlier so I have already pulled them into my repo. O Plameras wrote: Hi Sluggers, Just letting

Re: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 12:45:48PM +1100, O Plameras wrote: Hi Sluggers, Just letting any interested sluggers to know that Fedora Core 5 has been released today (our time), about 8 hours ago. Yeah, looking forward to it, especially xen3, mono, gfs ... Release notes here:

Re: [SLUG] recursively chmod directories ONLY

On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 10:43:35PM +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Ooop, sorry, you are right. We should do our best to maintain standards :-). I liked your deliberate error, keeps us on our toes: and for the files: find top level dir -type f -exec chmod 755 {} \;

Re: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

I'm now up to 37% pulled in but my download speed has fallen to about half of my saturation level and I currently have .56 upload ratio. It's projecting another 44 hours... O Plameras wrote: Howard Lowndes wrote: Yep, I've had a torrent running since this morning, currently just under 25%

Re: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

Howard Lowndes wrote: I'm now up to 37% pulled in but my download speed has fallen to about half of my saturation level and I currently have .56 upload ratio. It's projecting another 44 hours... You're right. It's taking forever. And it's going to be even slower as the word gets around for

[SLUG] [chat] NFS Shares.

Just a quick question, I have read many faqs about why an NFS share would take forever to mount and they all suggest that there is a dns problem when so i use the IP to avoid the possibility of that problem. The entry in my exports file is /mnt/drive1 192.168.0.123/255.255.255.0(rw) The entry

Re: [SLUG] [chat] NFS Shares.

On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 08:25:04PM +1100, cmyers wrote: Im mounting 5 drives (it takes between 5 - 10 minutes) to mount all the drives. Is there something else I should be looking at? or doing? to get them to mount quicker? Are you sure you're not loosing packets? I've seen issues where

Re: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

Title: Re: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5 Oscar Why do your emails come through with tomorrows date? Linley Caetan JAGAR Level 1, 60 Carrington Street Sydney, NSW 2000 Tel: (02) 8221-0745 Fax: (02) 8221-0750 Mob: (04) 2442-4262 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- No virus found in this outgoing

Re: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

Linley Caetan wrote: Oscar Why do your emails come through with tomorrows date? It was my TIMEZONE. That's been fixed. Thanks, anyway. Linley Caetan JAGAR Level 1, 60 Carrington Street Sydney, NSW 2000 Tel: (02) 8221-0745 Fax: (02) 8221-0750 Mob: (04) 2442-4262 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

I have the DVD ISO. I guess I must have gotten in early. bittorrent with this thing has never worked for me, I just grabbed it off a nearby mirror. I will burn a few copies and have them available at LWE next week if anyone wants one. Of course you might also ask the ELX guys, they may have

FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

I pulled all 5 cd iso's and the 75mb rescue cd iso yesterday from the optusnet mirror at full adsl speed (approx 150kb/s on 1.5m/256 adsl). On my home connection using 512/128 adsl I'm still waiting for the DVD ISO over bit torrent. At 8:00 am (+24 hours on torrent) this morning it was about 68%

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

On 3/22/06, Mr A Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pulled all 5 cd iso's and the 75mb rescue cd iso yesterday from the optusnet mirror at full adsl speed (approx 150kb/s on 1.5m/256 adsl). On my home connection using 512/128 adsl I'm still waiting for the DVD ISO over bit torrent. At 8:00

Re: [SLUG] HW exp with Dec Alpha Servers?

This one time, at band camp, Terry Collins wrote: James Gray wrote: Other reasons why Alpha's wont workwell, that would require them to at least have power. Not much help, but what does dead in the water really mean in this case? Okay, both machines have done at least 10 years in

Re: [SLUG] recursively chmod directories ONLY

This one time, at band camp, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: For the directories use something like: find top level dir -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; and for the files: find top level dir -type f -exec chmod 755 {} \; while you are there, you might want to read the find man page ; find has

Re: [SLUG] recursively chmod directories ONLY

This one time, at band camp, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Ben Donohue Erik's solution works but I'm sorry Jeff your's didn't, unless i've missed something. I hope you didn't use +rws, as that was only an example. The actual command you're looking for is: find see-below -type d | xargs chmod

Re: [SLUG] [chat] NFS Shares.

This one time, at band camp, cmyers wrote: Just a quick question, I have read many faqs about why an NFS share would take forever to mount and they all suggest that there is a dns problem when so i use the IP to avoid the possibility of that problem. Whenever I have a NFS share taking ages to

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

Mr A Tomlinson wrote: I pulled all 5 cd iso's and the 75mb rescue cd iso yesterday from the optusnet mirror at full adsl speed (approx 150kb/s on 1.5m/256 adsl). On my home connection using 512/128 adsl I'm still waiting for the DVD ISO over bit torrent. At 8:00 am (+24 hours on torrent) this

Re: [SLUG] recursively chmod directories ONLY

quote who=Jamie Wilkinson find see-below -type d | xargs chmod 644 This is almost always wrong because people put whitespace in filenames. Use the null separator argument to find and xargs: find snuh -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 3777 Excellent point. Though I do have a policy of

Re: [SLUG] HW exp with Dec Alpha Servers?

Jamie Wilkinson wrote: You might try testing output voltages on the PSU and making sure they're consistent with the documentation you found (assuming that you get that information in those docs). It is looking that way. Currently I am trying to see what other sources are avialable of spare

[SLUG] Oh dear, darling, your slip is showing...

Windows Vista delayed into January 2007 http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060321-6433.html Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system has been beset with another delay. After clearly pinpointing the holiday season of 2006 for launch, the company has now revised their primary launch period

Re: [SLUG] [chat] NFS Shares.

Oops sorry must have replied all to the wrong one sorry about that :( And yes it seems it was a portmap issue ;) This one time, at band camp, cmyers wrote: Just a quick question, I have read many faqs about why an NFS share would take forever to mount and they all suggest that there is a dns

Re: [SLUG] recursively chmod directories ONLY

On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 11:22:16AM +1100, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: Your find commands are either redundant or broken :) Most find commands are broken. The chance of a someone writing a reasonably complex but correct find command after reading, say, just the man page are pretty close to zero.

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 11:52:49AM +1100, O Plameras wrote: There's one big reason why I'd like to deploy Fedora Core 5. It's got OpenSSL-0.9.8a containing major security fix. !?! Are you saying there's a security fix that is not going to be released in fedora4?! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

Matthew Hannigan wrote: On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 11:52:49AM +1100, O Plameras wrote: There's one big reason why I'd like to deploy Fedora Core 5. It's got OpenSSL-0.9.8a containing major security fix. !?! Are you saying there's a security fix that is not going to be released in

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 12:59:27PM +1100, O Plameras wrote: Are you saying there's a security fix that is not going to be released in fedora4?! I don't know. I'll take that as a NO then. Which makes the rest of your message a little baffling. I tried to install OpenSSL-0.9.8a in FC 4.

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

Matthew Hannigan wrote: On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 12:59:27PM +1100, O Plameras wrote: Are you saying there's a security fix that is not going to be released in fedora4?! I don't know. I'll take that as a NO then. Which makes the rest of your message a little baffling.

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 01:14:28PM +1100, O Plameras wrote: Due to security inadequacy. Details man! Details! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

Matthew Hannigan wrote: On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 01:14:28PM +1100, O Plameras wrote: Due to security inadequacy. Details man! Details! The details are in www.openssl.org. You know what to do. RTFM. O Plameras -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List -

openssl FC4 (was Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 O Plameras wrote: I tried to install OpenSSL-0.9.8a in FC 4. But there are far too many packages that rely on OpenSSL-0.9.7f that comes with FC4. It's not worth my effort chasing rainbows. openssl in FC4 is patched as openssl 0.9.7f (which was

[SLUG] Sound Recording - not

I'd like to record some sound on my venerable Thinkpad T21 which is running Debian sarge. I can hear sound picked up from the microphone through the onboard speakers or via headphones. I can control the volume of the mic using the Gnome volume control and Alsa mixer. I can also mute and un-mute

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

quote who=O Plameras You know what to do. RTFM. Please don't *ever* say RTFM on SLUG. Particularly when you're spouting broken advice. - Jeff -- FISL 7.0: Porto Alegre, Brazilhttp://fisl.softwarelivre.org/7.0/www/ I must be getting old... Buying toothpaste with gel in it is no

Re: [SLUG] Sound Recording - not

I'd like to record some sound on my venerable Thinkpad T21 which is running Debian sarge. I can hear sound picked up from the microphone through the onboard speakers or via headphones. I can control the volume of the mic using the Gnome volume control and Alsa mixer. I can also mute and

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=O Plameras You know what to do. RTFM. Please don't *ever* say RTFM on SLUG. Particularly when you're spouting broken advice. What advise do you mean. RTFM means READ THE FUJITSU MANUAL if you don't know.. O Plameras -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's

Re: openssl FC4 (was Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5)

openssl in FC4 is patched as openssl 0.9.7f (which was released for FC4 when the vulnerability was announced last year) contains the same security fix as openssl 0.9.8a. http://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20051011.txt http://lwn.net/Alerts/155824/ And of course, the really stupid thing is

Re: [SLUG] Sound Recording - not

On 22/03/06, James Purser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to record some sound on my venerable Thinkpad T21 which is running Debian sarge. Have you tried Audacity yet? I hadn't. Nor Sweep. But I have tried both now, and neither of those will record from the mic either. :-( Thanks for

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

This one time, at band camp, O Plameras wrote: Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=O Plameras You know what to do. RTFM. Please don't *ever* say RTFM on SLUG. Particularly when you're spouting broken advice. What advise do you mean. RTFM means READ THE FUJITSU MANUAL if you don't know.. I'm

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

RTFM means READ THE FUJITSU MANUAL if you don't know.. It is also a great indicator of the ability of the posters ability to deal with people who a) Might not have the same level of experience, b) may have a different opinion or c) may not be able to communicate as clearly. The sooner RTFM is

Re: openssl FC4 (was Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5)

David Gillies wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 O Plameras wrote: I tried to install OpenSSL-0.9.8a in FC 4. But there are far too many packages that rely on OpenSSL-0.9.7f that comes with FC4. It's not worth my effort chasing rainbows. openssl in FC4 is patched

Re: openssl FC4 (was Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 O Plameras wrote: David Gillies wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 O Plameras wrote: I tried to install OpenSSL-0.9.8a in FC 4. But there are far too many packages that rely on OpenSSL-0.9.7f that comes with FC4. It's not

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

James Purser wrote: RTFM means READ THE FUJITSU MANUAL if you don't know.. It is also a great indicator of the ability of the posters ability to deal with people who a) Might not have the same level of experience, b) may have a different opinion or c) may not be able to communicate as

[SLUG] local website for listing computers/parts for sale, purchase, trade?

Does one of a non-profit nature exist? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: openssl FC4 (was Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5)

David Gillies wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 O Plameras wrote: David Gillies wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 O Plameras wrote: I tried to install OpenSSL-0.9.8a in FC 4. But there are far too many packages that rely on

Re: [SLUG] [chat] NFS Shares.

cmyers wrote: Just a quick question, I have read many faqs about why an NFS share would take forever to mount and they all suggest that there is a dns problem when so i use the IP to avoid the possibility of that problem. The entry in my exports file is /mnt/drive1

Re: openssl FC4 (was Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5)

On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 02:31:34PM +1100, O Plameras wrote: David Gillies wrote: O Plameras wrote: I tried to install OpenSSL-0.9.8a in FC 4. But there are far too many packages that rely on OpenSSL-0.9.7f that comes with FC4. It's not worth my effort chasing rainbows. openssl in FC4 is

Re: [SLUG] local website for listing computers/parts for sale, purchase, trade?

http://forums.overclockers.com.au Dean Leslie Katz wrote: Does one of a non-profit nature exist? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

This one time, at band camp, O Plameras wrote: Besides, what is this noise about RTFM. It is an acceptable language in USENET and lists groups since I can remember. SLUG's Not Usenet. (or SNUH for short) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info

Re: openssl FC4 (was Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5)

On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 02:42:06PM +1100, O Plameras wrote: openssl in FC4 is patched as openssl 0.9.7f Was patched in openssl-0.9.7h. And was then backported to 0.9.7f-7.10 in FC4. Sorry, I don't get this backported version in FC4 or FC3. My auto-update using yum does not pick

Re: openssl FC4 (was Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5)

Norman Gaywood wrote: On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 02:31:34PM +1100, O Plameras wrote: David Gillies wrote: O Plameras wrote: I tried to install OpenSSL-0.9.8a in FC 4. But there are far too many packages that rely on OpenSSL-0.9.7f that comes with FC4. It's not worth my effort

Re: openssl FC4 (was Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 O Plameras wrote: David Gillies wrote: O Plameras wrote: David Gillies wrote: O Plameras wrote: I tried to install OpenSSL-0.9.8a in FC 4. But there are far too many packages that rely on OpenSSL-0.9.7f that comes with FC4. It's not worth my

Re: openssl FC4 (was Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5)

O Plameras wrote: David Gillies wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 O Plameras wrote: David Gillies wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 O Plameras wrote: I tried to install OpenSSL-0.9.8a in FC 4. But there are far too many packages

Re: [SLUG] local website for listing computers/parts for sale, purchase, trade?

Dean Hamstead wrote: http://forums.overclockers.com.au Dean Leslie Katz wrote: Does one of a non-profit nature exist? Thanks, Dean. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: openssl FC4 (was Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5)

David Gillies wrote: Check what the release version of the openssl rpm is. It should be the same release version as this (7.10) $ rpm -qi openssl Name: openssl Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 0.9.7fVendor: Red Hat, Inc.

Re: [SLUG] Committee Nomination

As a financial member, I agree with, and thus nominate/second James Purser's nomination/seconding in his stead. :) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

Jamie Wilkinson wrote: This one time, at band camp, O Plameras wrote: Besides, what is this noise about RTFM. It is an acceptable language in USENET and lists groups since I can remember. SLUG's Not Usenet. Usenet and lists groups are the Godfather and Godmothers of all lists

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

quote who=O Plameras Besides, what is this noise about RTFM. It is an acceptable language in USENET and lists groups since I can remember. SLUG's Not Usenet. Usenet and lists groups are the Godfather and Godmothers of all lists service. ... and on *this* list service, RTFM (as a

[SLUG] BUGS meeting: Thursday, 30th March

Dear SLUG members (and anyone else who is interested :), You are most welcome to join us for the meeting outlined below. This is a fairly infrequent opportunity. We'd love to see you there! BSD Users Group Sydney Meeting == What: Drinks and dinner. Meet some

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

Usenet and lists groups are the Godfather and Godmothers of all lists service. Yes, and once people would make human sacrifices to their pagan gods for a good crop. We don't do that anymore because it's not considered good manners, much the same was as RTFM is looked upon as being trite and a

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=O Plameras Besides, what is this noise about RTFM. It is an acceptable language in USENET and lists groups since I can remember. SLUG's Not Usenet. Usenet and lists groups are the Godfather and Godmothers of all lists service. ... and on

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

James Purser wrote: Usenet and lists groups are the Godfather and Godmothers of all lists service. Yes, and once people would make human sacrifices to their pagan gods for a good crop. We don't do that anymore because it's not considered good manners, much the same was as RTFM is looked

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 01:26:39PM +1100, O Plameras wrote: Matthew Hannigan wrote: On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 01:14:28PM +1100, O Plameras wrote: Due to security inadequacy. Details man! Details! The details are in www.openssl.org. You know what to do. RTFM. Once I

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

quote who=O Plameras ... and on *this* list service, RTFM (as a serious answer to a question) is inappropriate. It's an ugly part of other online cultures that is not wanted or needed here. You really need to RTFM, say, the netiquette from the Internet. I'm pretty comfortable with my

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

This one time, at band camp, O Plameras wrote: You really need to RTFM, say, the netiquette from the Internet. I'll translate RTFM as Read The Fabulous Manual in accordance with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM. SNUH. SLUG's Not Usenet. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List -

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=O Plameras ... and on *this* list service, RTFM (as a serious answer to a question) is inappropriate. It's an ugly part of other online cultures that is not wanted or needed here. You really need to RTFM, say, the netiquette from the Internet. I'm

[SLUG] EMAIL MARKETING WITH US

Hi Friend: Have you tried online advertising for your business? Let me tell you ppc banner popup... nothing will work as good as email advertising Email advertising is cheap effective and it can generate massive profit for you. Do a simple math if you advertise to 1 million people only 5% buy

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM disagrees with you. Whacko for them. I think you'll find that there is a large body of people both on this list and others who do not like the mentality that comes with RTFM as a serious response. Jeff has already come out swinging on this issue and I will

Re: [SLUG] HW exp with Dec Alpha Servers?

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:36 pm, Terry Collins wrote: James Gray wrote: Other reasons why Alpha's wont workwell, that would require them to at least have power. Not much help, but what does dead in the water really mean in this case? Okay, both machines have done at least 10 years in

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

James Purser.quote; Jeff has already come out swinging on this issue and I will join him. RTFM is a sign that the poster could not be bothered explaining themselves to any degree, and to a large extent, it displays a lack of respect for the person you are posting too. Or that they themselves

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

Matthew Hannigan wrote: On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 01:26:39PM +1100, O Plameras wrote: Matthew Hannigan wrote: On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 01:14:28PM +1100, O Plameras wrote: Due to security inadequacy. Details man! Details! The details are in

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 04:41:47PM +1100, James Purser wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM disagrees with you. Whacko for them. I think you'll find that there is a large body of people both on this list and others who do not like the mentality that comes with RTFM as a serious

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

James Purser wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM disagrees with you. Whacko for them. I think you'll find that there is a large body of people both on this list and others who do not like the mentality that comes with RTFM as a serious response. May I venture, then, to say that

Not the place for RTFM [Was: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5]

quote who=O Plameras I'm pretty comfortable with my knowledge of online etiquette. I'm not so comfortable with your knowledge of SLUG's. Google tells me that there are over 5Mega Articles that disagrees with you. Oscar, over many years, we have adapted the culture of SLUG towards one

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

May I venture, then, to say that your overall perspective is limited. You somewhat live in a pretend world. Yes, the one with with fairies and dwarves and horrible little trolls. If the search in SLUG works try and search for the word RTFM and I am not the first person to use it in SLUG.

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

This one time, at band camp, O Plameras wrote: What I know is there is security issue. I did not know that openssl-0.9.7f has been patched to fix this problem until I saw a number of post on this list. But the 0.9.8a release has the fix according to their site. So, I tried to go for it.

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=O Plameras ... and on *this* list service, RTFM (as a serious answer to a question) is inappropriate. It's an ugly part of other online cultures that is not wanted or needed here. And not only that, there is usually NO FM {:-). And you can easily get a reply like

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

Terry Collins wrote: Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=O Plameras ... and on *this* list service, RTFM (as a serious answer to a question) is inappropriate. It's an ugly part of other online cultures that is not wanted or needed here. And not only that, there is usually NO FM

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

quote who=O Plameras In the context of the Post, there is RTFM in www.openssl.org. The person I addressed the reply to in my assessment is matured and well-informed SLUG user. I presume he knows what is meant by my RTFM. Yet there are plenty of other people on this list who will read that and

[SLUG] About joining your business

Hi there, You emailed your business details to me a few months ago. Sorry I didn't join then but I am ready again now. Would you please send me an email with details how to join your business? Thanks Love Caroline -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=O Plameras In the context of the Post, there is RTFM in www.openssl.org. The person I addressed the reply to in my assessment is matured and well-informed SLUG user. I presume he knows what is meant by my RTFM. Yet there are plenty of other people on this

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 05:41:30PM +1100, O Plameras wrote: In the context of the Post, there is RTFM in www.openssl.org. The person I addressed the reply That'd be me to in my assessment is matured You make me sound like a cheese. and well-informed SLUG user. I presume he knows what

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

On Wed, 2006-03-22 at 17:51 +1100, O Plameras wrote: You live in a bubble. You always say you speak for other people, as if you are the only one who can express yourself and not the other persons. There are many people like myself, who are not speaking up because we concur with Jeff's

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

quote who=O Plameras You live in a bubble. You always say you speak for other people, as if you are the only one who can express yourself and not the other persons. Funny how others have expressed the same thoughts on this thread, Oscar. - Jeff -- FISL 7.0: Porto Alegre, Brazil

Re: Not the place for RTFM [Was: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5]

Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=O Plameras I'm pretty comfortable with my knowledge of online etiquette. I'm not so comfortable with your knowledge of SLUG's. Google tells me that there are over 5Mega Articles that disagrees with you. Oscar, over many years, we have adapted the

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=O Plameras You live in a bubble. You always say you speak for other people, as if you are the only one who can express yourself and not the other persons. Funny how others have expressed the same thoughts on this thread, Oscar. It's not funny when

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