Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-05-18 Thread Andrew Cowie
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 07:40 +1000, Martin Visser wrote: And yes, I do find it a little frustrating that [HP] aren't more comprehensive in the Linux support across the range. Chatting with Bdale about this a few months ago, he articulated that there was a vast difference in HP's laptop line

Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-05-18 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Andrew Cowie wrote: In any case, the idea was navigate to the corporate audience side of their web site, rather than the generic home consumer side. Well I went to the small business side of their Australian website [0]. I searched around and found that every single machine in the laptop

Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-05-18 Thread Glen Turner
Andrew Cowie wrote: Chatting with Bdale about this a few months ago, he articulated that there was a vast difference in HP's laptop line between systems targeted at the consumer audience, and systems targeted at the corporate market. Notably, the consumer-targeted systems rapidly change

Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-28 Thread Martin Visser
Erik, A subset of the new HP ProBook range (announced today in the US), the 4710s specifically, are able to be ordered with SuSE 11 installed. There are no announcements for Australia yet, and also no guarantees they will have the same OS options here. Product specs are here :-

Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-28 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Martin Visser wrote: A subset of the new HP ProBook range (announced today in the US), the 4710s specifically, are able to be ordered with SuSE 11 installed. There are no announcements for Australia yet, and also no guarantees they will have the same OS options here. Dell has had Linux

RE: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-20 Thread Meijer, Luke
, 20 April 2009 12:58 PM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed? Cibby Pulikkaseril wrote: I purchased an Acer Aspire 4315 for $500 here in Sydney - it came with Ubuntu preinstalled, but I wiped it and installed Kubuntu. I believe that is a netbook grade

RE: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-20 Thread Meijer, Luke
April 2009 12:58 PM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed? Cibby Pulikkaseril wrote: I purchased an Acer Aspire 4315 for $500 here in Sydney - it came with Ubuntu preinstalled, but I wiped it and installed Kubuntu. I believe that is a netbook grade machine

Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-20 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Meijer, Luke wrote: It is obvious you want something that you know you cant get. The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)

Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-20 Thread melissa
Meijer, Luke wrote: snip I was in the exact same situation with my Dell XPS 1330 purchase as Ubuntu was an option for US Dell customers only. So why the fsck can't people in this global backwater get the same deal? I know of at least one survey which showed that Australia has a larger

Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-20 Thread Peter Abbott
Erik, I bought one of Pioneer's higher range laptops in May 2006. At this stage Pioneer sold with or without an MS operating system like you I refused to pay the tax. If memory serves me correctly it was called a Dreambook and has a 64 bit AMD cpu, 1G of ram (since upgraded to 2G), a 17 screen

Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-20 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Peter Abbott wrote: I bought one of Pioneer's higher range laptops in May 2006. At this stage Pioneer sold with or without an MS operating system like you I refused to pay the tax. If memory serves me correctly it was called a Dreambook and has a 64 bit AMD cpu, 1G of ram (since upgraded to

RE: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-19 Thread Meijer, Luke
Hi Erik Sounds like you got it all sorted then. Luke -Original Message- From: slug-boun...@slug.org.au [mailto:slug-boun...@slug.org.au] On Behalf Of Erik de Castro Lopo Sent: Saturday, 18 April 2009 6:11 PM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed

Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-19 Thread Marghanita da Cruz
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Jonathan wrote: I remember that there was at some stage, soemthing with the EULA with Windows. Essentially, it can only be valid if you voluntarily accept it, therefore, if you don't you can uninstall it, send the CD's and documentation back to Microsoft and they

Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-19 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Meijer, Luke wrote: Sounds like you got it all sorted then. Well actually no. I have so far found one company (and only one) that does a true Linux pre-installed machine (ie machine with Linux is cheaper than one with windows): http://pioneercomputers.com.au/ Since these do not seem to

Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-19 Thread Daniel Pittman
Marghanita da Cruz marghan...@ramin.com.au writes: Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Jonathan wrote: I remember that there was at some stage, soemthing with the EULA with Windows. Essentially, it can only be valid if you voluntarily accept it, therefore, if you don't you can uninstall it, send the

Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-19 Thread Cibby Pulikkaseril
versions of Ubuntu seem to have no problems with that now. I'm only having other, smaller problems with it now. Cibby --- On Sun, 4/19/09, Erik de Castro Lopo mle+s...@mega-nerd.com wrote: From: Erik de Castro Lopo mle+s...@mega-nerd.com Subject: Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed

Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-19 Thread Marghanita da Cruz
Daniel Pittman wrote: Marghanita da Cruz marghan...@ramin.com.au writes: Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Jonathan wrote: I remember that there was at some stage, soemthing with the EULA with Windows. Essentially, it can only be valid if you voluntarily accept it, therefore, if you don't you can

Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-19 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Cibby Pulikkaseril wrote: I purchased an Acer Aspire 4315 for $500 here in Sydney - it came with Ubuntu preinstalled, but I wiped it and installed Kubuntu. I believe that is a netbook grade machine and I am looking for something closer to the high end. Specifically, Core 2 Duo/Core

Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-18 Thread Jonathan
- From: slug-boun...@slug.org.au [mailto:slug-boun...@slug.org.au] On Behalf Of Erik de Castro Lopo Sent: Friday, 17 April 2009 3:12 PM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed? Craig Ayliffe wrote: If you go to a product and click on Build Your Own

Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-18 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Jonathan wrote: I remember that there was at some stage, soemthing with the EULA with Windows. Essentially, it can only be valid if you voluntarily accept it, therefore, if you don't you can uninstall it, send the CD's and documentation back to Microsoft and they have to refund you the

Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-18 Thread Daniel Pittman
Jonathan jhhum...@bigpond.com writes: I remember that there was at some stage, soemthing with the EULA with Windows. Essentially, it can only be valid if you voluntarily accept it, therefore, if you don't you can uninstall it, send the CD's and documentation back to Microsoft and they have

RE: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-17 Thread Meijer, Luke
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed? Craig Ayliffe wrote: If you go to a product and click on Build Your Own, their is an Operating System option where you can select Ubuntu OS Preloaded. Found it. Its rather well hidden and the window logo to the left hurt my eyes. Thanks

[SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-16 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Hi all, Does anyone here in .au actually ship higher end laptops with Linux pre-installed? Dell does in the US, but not here. I've also searched the HP website, but that is even harder to navigate than the Dell site. Erik --

Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-16 Thread melissa
Hi all, Does anyone here in .au actually ship higher end laptops with Linux pre-installed? Dell does in the US, but not here. I've also searched the HP website, but that is even harder to navigate than the Dell site. Well, I know pioneercomputers.com.au do offer Ubuntu preinstalled on

Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-16 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
meli...@meldraweb.com wrote: Well, I know pioneercomputers.com.au do offer Ubuntu preinstalled on quite a lot of their range. I do know this was true at one stage, but I can't find anything about pre-installed Linux on their current sire. They have stuff fitting into most price ranges, and

Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-16 Thread Marghanita da Cruz
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Hi all, Does anyone here in .au actually ship higher end laptops with Linux pre-installed? Dell does in the US, but not here. I've also searched the HP website, but that is even harder to navigate than the Dell site. Erik The guy at JB Hifi in Leichhardt said

Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?

2009-04-16 Thread Craig Ayliffe
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Erik de Castro Lopo mle+s...@mega-nerd.com wrote: meli...@meldraweb.com wrote: Well, I know pioneercomputers.com.au do offer Ubuntu preinstalled on quite a lot of their range. I do know this was true at one stage, but I can't find anything about

Re: [SLUG] laptops/wireless connections

2006-05-22 Thread tlloyd99
Thanks for all the suggestions folks. I am actually out of action (and out of Australia) at the moment so opportunities to try out the wireless connectivity are limited. I will get the system set up so I can try it out when I get back home. Cheers tim Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [SLUG] laptops/wireless connections

2006-05-22 Thread jam
On Monday 22 May 2006 15:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG-based 802.11g wlan working for quite a while on 2.6.15 and now 2.6.16 quite nicely. I'm running debian on a Sony Vaio laptop, and here's what I did to get things working. I'm not familiar with Fedora, but

Re: [SLUG] laptops/wireless connections

2006-05-22 Thread Mary Cudmore
Hi James, heh. I must admit using Vaio has greatly increased my knowledge of linux on laptops (not a bad thing). This is my second-gen Vaio, so I obviously like the pain. No regrets however - I have the VGN-S38GP, WXGA, beautiful lightweight thing. PS: anyone got lm-sensors working on a

Re: [SLUG] laptops/wireless connections

2006-05-21 Thread Peter Rundle
I have installed fc5 on my new laptop and I am having no end of bother getting the wireless connection going. I've just managed to get a netgear wg511v2 (made in China) card working in SLED-10 by using the ndiswrapper. The docs say this card is completely unsupported using Linux native

Re: [SLUG] laptops/wireless connections

2006-05-21 Thread Mary Cudmore
Hi Tim, I've had Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG-based 802.11g wlan working for quite a while on 2.6.15 and now 2.6.16 quite nicely. I'm running debian on a Sony Vaio laptop, and here's what I did to get things working. I'm not familiar with Fedora, but hopefully something in here might be helpful

Re: [SLUG] laptops/wireless connections

2006-05-21 Thread Howard Lowndes
Peter Rundle wrote: I have installed fc5 on my new laptop and I am having no end of bother getting the wireless connection going. I've just managed to get a netgear wg511v2 (made in China) card working in SLED-10 by using the ndiswrapper. The docs say this card is completely unsupported

Re: [SLUG] laptops/wireless connections

2006-05-20 Thread Tim Lloyd
O Plameras wrote: Tim Lloyd wrote: Hi gang, I have installed fc5 on my new laptop and I am having no end of bother getting the wireless connection going. I have downloaded the firmware for my wireless card and installed it: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tim]# ls /lib/firmware/

[SLUG] laptops/wireless connections

2006-05-19 Thread Tim Lloyd
Hi gang, I have installed fc5 on my new laptop and I am having no end of bother getting the wireless connection going. I have downloaded the firmware for my wireless card and installed it: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tim]# ls /lib/firmware/ ipw2200-2.4-LICENSE ipw2200-sniffer.fw ipw-2.4-ibss.fw

Re: [SLUG] laptops/wireless connections

2006-05-19 Thread O Plameras
Tim Lloyd wrote: Hi gang, I have installed fc5 on my new laptop and I am having no end of bother getting the wireless connection going. I have downloaded the firmware for my wireless card and installed it: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tim]# ls /lib/firmware/ ipw2200-2.4-LICENSE

Re: [SLUG] Laptops and Linux

2004-08-16 Thread James Ponza
I agree with *both* of those recommendations... the IBM thinkpads are just really really nice - lovely keyboard and nipple - just a joy to type/mouse on.. and the apple laptops are gorgeous... you can run OSX or a ppc linux distro... for flexibility when it comes to linux though maybe stick

Re: [SLUG] Laptops and Linux

2004-08-12 Thread James Fleming
I am going to be purchasing a new laptop soon and would like some recommendations about brands and models that work well with Linux Can't speak for Fedora so far, but my Twinhead has worked nicely with RedHat 9 for the last year or so, plus a brief flirtation with Debian. Cheers, James --

Re: [SLUG] Laptops and Linux

2004-08-12 Thread amos
I don't have personal experience with any (but a Toshiba back in 1999) but the IBM ThinkPad T41 seems to get a full thumbs up from the Linux Journal Editors. Read: http://linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7564 HTH, --Amos Dennis M. Gray wrote: I am going to be purchasing a new laptop soon and would

Re: [SLUG] Laptops and Linux

2004-08-12 Thread amos
And BTW - just about 10 days ago HP announced shipping of laptops with pre-installed Linux. You can google for hp linux laptop and you'll get items like: http://news.com.com/HP+offers+Linux-based+Centrino+laptop/2100-1005_3-5294914.html I'd love to hear what people know about this option,

Re: [SLUG] Laptops and Linux

2004-08-12 Thread Jasper streit
I'm having loads of troubles with my ibook g4 (can't even get drivers for the internal Airport Ext. card)... the only distro that really worked is gentoo - there is not too much of a choice on the ppc. The upside to the ibook is that i can get 5 1/2 hours of battery life and cost me under

[SLUG] Laptops and Linux

2004-08-11 Thread Dennis M. Gray
I am going to be purchasing a new laptop soon and would like some recommendations about brands and models that work well with Linux (Fedora Core specifically). Regards -- Dennis M. Gray Far East Information Resources Pty. Ltd. 91 Queen Street BEACONSFIELD NSW 2015 AUSTRALIA Sydney Phone:

Re: [SLUG] Laptops and Linux

2004-08-11 Thread Stuart Guthrie
My preference currently for robustness, speed and great keyboard. IBM Thinkpads. I use the SFF myself 12 screen but others like 15 w. the works. I set mine to dual boot which for visits to companies stuck on Windows is handy. I've heard/seen lots of great things about Apple iBooks and

Re: [SLUG] Laptops and Linux

2004-08-11 Thread James Gregory
On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 12:59 +1000, Dennis M. Gray wrote: I am going to be purchasing a new laptop soon and would like some recommendations about brands and models that work well with Linux (Fedora Core specifically). I'm currently using an HP NC4000, largely on the recommendation of Bdale

Re: [SLUG] Laptops and Linux

2004-08-11 Thread Benno
On Thu Aug 12, 2004 at 12:59:09 +1000, Dennis M. Gray wrote: I am going to be purchasing a new laptop soon and would like some recommendations about brands and models that work well with Linux (Fedora Core specifically). Can't go past the PowerBook. I find the keyboard, battery life, robustness

Re: [SLUG] Laptops Or Notebooks

2003-03-02 Thread Stuart Guthrie
Hi Gerald, [EMAIL PROTECTED] can help you. He runs an ISP with national coverage. He uses SUSE himself so setup/support should not be an issue. I'd use his ISP but I'm on ADSL so no need for dial-up. Not sure of his personal company email address so use his personal one above. If he's on-list

Re: [SLUG] Laptops Or Notebooks

2003-03-02 Thread Striker Stormbringer
quote who=Stuart Guthrie Hi Gerald, [EMAIL PROTECTED] can help you. He runs an ISP with national coverage. He uses SUSE himself so setup/support should not be an issue. I'd use his ISP but I'm on ADSL so no need for dial-up. Not sure of his personal company email address so use his

[SLUG] Laptops Or Notebooks

2003-03-01 Thread Gerald Catling
Hi to all I will be going mobile and touring around oz for 2-3 years. It would be nice to keep up with everyone, so can anyone give me ideas as to which isp gives mobile coverage for internet access, and which laptop would they recommend to run SuSE 8.1/Mandrake 9.0/1? Many thanks, Gerald --

Re: [SLUG] Laptops ?

2002-04-10 Thread Mehmet Yousouf
Well I'm using a toshiba satellite pro 4600 and am very happy, there was a bit of trouble setting it up (had to use framebuffer mode for X to work but XFree-4.2 has fixed that - still no hardware acceleration though so can't watch full screen DVDs). eepro network card had problems but works

[SLUG] Laptops ?

2002-04-09 Thread Wayne Crich
I am hoping to buy a new laptop in the comming months. Given the difficulty of getting one that will run linux and Xwindows. Ithought I would ask for any suggestions from those who have a working laptop bought here in Australia and for around $3000 Thanks Wayne -- SLUG - Sydney Linux

Re: [SLUG] Laptops ?

2002-04-09 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Wayne Crich wrote: I am hoping to buy a new laptop in the comming months. Given the difficulty of getting one that will run linux and Xwindows. Ithought I would ask for any suggestions from those who have a working laptop bought here in Australia and for around $3000 It

Re: [SLUG] Laptops ?

2002-04-09 Thread Stephan Borg
I bought a Dell Inspiron last month, and is happily running WinXP, Linux and XWindows. A google search came up with these useful sites: http://www.linux-laptop.net/ http://mobilix.org/Mobile-Guide.db/Mobile-Guide.html The first one provides Make Model Walkthroughs which I found the most

Re: [SLUG] Laptops ?

2002-04-09 Thread Stephan Borg
Just while were on the subject of laptops, here is an old story about getting a refund for your bundled OEM software. http://www.netcraft.com.au/geoffrey/toshiba.html The current website to do such a thing is here: http://www.linuxmall.com/refund/ NB: I haven't tried for a refund, cause I

RE: [SLUG] Laptops

2001-04-05 Thread Grant Street
it. ftp://ftp.rp.csiro.au/pub/people/dbateman/flash/ HIH -Original Message- From: Jon Biddell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 9:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Laptops Anyone have a Libretto working with *any* distro ? I have a 110CT (P233