Re: [SLUG] Low - mid level graphic card recommendations

2005-06-27 Thread Matt Moor
That's certainly out of the norm, at least from my experience (with a couple of boxes). Before I the motherboard died, I was running an athlon machine with a Geforce2 MX 24/7 for 2 years. I was rebooting every 2-3 months (usually for kernel or hardware upgrades), but iirc, never had X or the

Re: [SLUG] Low - mid level graphic card recommendations

2005-06-27 Thread Marek Wawrzyczny
Yes, it is strange. I have the Radeon M9000 (mobility) series, and while the drivers are still in development my machine is fairly stable... unless I do something stupid and upgrade to the latest and greatest XOrg series (running 6.8.2-r2 fine)... Mind you, being a laptop it ain't on for more

Re: [SLUG] Low - mid level graphic card recommendations

2005-06-26 Thread Peter Hardy
On Sun, 2005-06-26 at 15:29 +1000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Hi all, I've just had a graphics card die on me and I'm looing for a replacement. Here's what I'm after: - Easily/currently available - Less that $150 - Must have open source drivers (I dislike binary only

Re: [SLUG] Low - mid level graphic card recommendations

2005-06-26 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Peter Hardy wrote: I recently picked up an ATI Radeon 9250. They're fairly new and readily available. I got mine up from EYO for... around $70 I think. There's a binary driver, but the open source driver in the x.org server has almost all of the same features. I think the only thing missing

Re: [SLUG] Low - mid level graphic card recommendations

2005-06-26 Thread Lindsay Holmwood
Hey Erik, On the lower end of the scale, you can probably pick up an old TNT2 m64 for ~$25 at most computer stores if you ask, although they won't be advertising them :-). It'll work nicely with the open source nvidia drivers included with X, and flawlessly with the nvidia binary drivers

Re: [SLUG] Low - mid level graphic card recommendations

2005-06-26 Thread James Gray
On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 03:29 pm, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Hi all, I've just had a graphics card die on me and I'm looing for a replacement. Here's what I'm after: - Easily/currently available - Less that $150 - Must have open source drivers (I dislike binary only drivers

Re: [SLUG] Low - mid level graphic card recommendations

2005-06-26 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
James Gray wrote: Hi Erik, If by low-end you mean accelerated 3D is not a requirement then I'd Hmm, I always wanted to play with a bit of OpenGL programming so accelerated 3D would be nice. then I'd *highly* recommend a Matrox G400/400Max, G450 or G550 I actually had a G400 a number of

Re: [SLUG] Low - mid level graphic card recommendations

2005-06-26 Thread Menno Schaaf
You can get a NVIDIA FX 5700 for that price, and it's easy as all to set up (much easier to get the drivers working then the Radeon cards, and better performance under linux as well esp with 3d) On 6/26/05, Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Gray wrote: Hi Erik, If by

Re: [SLUG] Low - mid level graphic card recommendations

2005-06-26 Thread Harald Ashburner
Assertion 1: There is no decent open source drivers for 3D video cards Assertion 2: If you want decent 3D, use NVidia cards and NVidia binary only drivers (despite ethical reservations and the extra difficulties of kernel debugging etc) Anyone care to take issue with either of those? Please? --

Re: [SLUG] Low - mid level graphic card recommendations

2005-06-26 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 03:28:03AM +1000, Harald Ashburner wrote: Assertion 1: There is no decent open source drivers for 3D video cards Assertion 2: If you want decent 3D, use NVidia cards and NVidia binary only drivers (despite ethical reservations and the extra difficulties of kernel

Re: [SLUG] Low - mid level graphic card recommendations

2005-06-26 Thread Menno Schaaf
The ATI drivers are ok, just a pain to install and get working (same under windows) NVIDIA have always had much easier drivers (in my experiance) This wasn't supposed to become a card brand vs card brand war (i hope anyway) I've given my suggestion, and the reasons for it, and even with a binary

Re: [SLUG] Low - mid level graphic card recommendations

2005-06-26 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 06:14:12AM +1000, Menno Schaaf wrote: The ATI drivers are ok, just a pain to install and get working (same under windows) NVIDIA have always had much easier drivers (in my experiance) apt-get under ubuntu or yum under fedora will get you ati binary drivers afaik.

Re: [SLUG] Low - mid level graphic card recommendations

2005-06-26 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 03:29:29PM +1000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: - Less that $150 fwiw, you can get an entire motherboard with integrated sound, video and lan for less than $80, that would probably kick sand in the face of our beloved matrox 400/450. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's

Re: [SLUG] Low - mid level graphic card recommendations

2005-06-26 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Harald Ashburner wrote: Assertion 1: There is no decent open source drivers for 3D video cards Unfortunately, this definitely does seem to be true. My box at work has the binary Nvidia drivers and about once a fortnight or so, X dies, restarts and provides me with GDM login screen. For someone

Re: [SLUG] Low - mid level graphic card recommendations

2005-06-26 Thread Jan Schmidt
On Sun, 2005-06-26 at 17:31 +1000, Peter Hardy wrote: On Sun, 2005-06-26 at 15:29 +1000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Hi all, I've just had a graphics card die on me and I'm looing for a replacement. Here's what I'm after: - Easily/currently available - Less that $150 -

Re: [SLUG] Low - mid level graphic card recommendations

2005-06-26 Thread James Gray
On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:09 am, Matthew Hannigan wrote: On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 03:29:29PM +1000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: - Less that $150 fwiw, you can get an entire motherboard with integrated sound, video and lan for less than $80, that would probably kick sand in the face of our

Re: [SLUG] Low - mid level graphic card recommendations

2005-06-26 Thread Ryan Verner
On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 07:42 +1000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: My box at work has the binary Nvidia drivers and about once a fortnight or so, X dies, restarts and provides me with GDM login screen. For someone who keeps half a dozen windows open with what I'm working on, this is a royal PITA.

[SLUG] Low - mid level graphic card recommendations

2005-06-25 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Hi all, I've just had a graphics card die on me and I'm looing for a replacement. Here's what I'm after: - Easily/currently available - Less that $150 - Must have open source drivers (I dislike binary only drivers intensely) Anyone have anything to recommend? Cheers, Erik --