[SLUG] Nicer mutt mail index
Mutt users, try this: set index_format=%Z %[!%d/%m] | %-18.18F | %4c | %s (Beware: Some will consider the pipes to be crack.) - Jeff -- There, I did it... I defiled a timeless piece of ART! - Jim Carrey, covering I Am The Walrus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] [OT] burned on a deal - update
Thank you very much for all your replies. You guys are tops! Close examination of the documentation and the back panel of the unit revealed two things: this model comes in two varieties, either 100/110/120V, or 220/230/240V. I've got the later, and I can set it to 240 through a dipswitch in the back. Now I know this model doesn't work at 11OV at all I'm not worried about its output being only 110V either. Once I sort out the plugs and sockets situation I should be good to go. And while I'm not particularly handy with this sort of thing, I also remembered I know a guy who's an electrician. He can expect a call soon :) So this looks like the way to go. I still think I would have a good case for refund, but my time and sanity are worth to me more than being vindicated. I'd rather deal with plugs and cables than legalities and arguments. All I know is that I'm being sued for unfair business practices by Microsoft. Hello pot? It's kettle on line two... - Michael Robertson, founder of Lindows -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] nmblookup and Konquerer lan browsing
On Sun, 2002-01-13 at 14:34, Christopher Booth wrote: [...snipped...] NETWORK appears ... Ahh, I tend not use that view in Konqueror, so I never noticed, thanks. As an aside, you can add rlan:/ , smb:/ , etc to the bookmarks (and the bookmarks toolbar). UpdatePeriod=300# Refresh period ? This is the base refresh period, if no call is made to lisa/reslisa during this time it will double (up to four(?) times, so left alone it will only update every 2400 seconds. My questions ? With my settings above, would a machine with X.Y.107.21 be allowed ? Yes, that should be shown. X.Y.143.187? No, by your config only X.Y.104-107.* would be checked. You should be able to specify the IP range using this method, eg: X.Y.100-150.0-20 should be accepted by res/lisa. How much do lisarc and reslisarc rely on settings in smb.conf ? I don't really know however I think it is only (partially) used for the SMB parts, the FTP and HTTP parts are determined seperately. Should I put Wins Servers addresses in the line PingNames ? PingNames is only used to specify address to check by name rather then IP number, if you have already specified them in AllowedAddresses there is no need to add them here again (err, well see below). In smb.conf there are two lines remote browse sync and remote announce [...snipped...] Should remote browse sync be the ip address of the wins server ? Should remote announce be set to X.Y.107.255 ? Correctly configuring your samba server is another whole kettle of fish, but I don't think you need to change anything there to get res/lisa working. An example (untested) reslisa configuration file that should check 192.168.0.0 through to 192.168.25.255, as well as the single machine at 193.0.0.5 : PingNames = # Not needed (see below) AllowedAddresses = 192.168.0-25.0-255;193.0.0.5 SearchUsingNmblookup = 1 FirstWait = 30 SecondWait = -1 UpdatePeriod = 300 DeliverUnnamedHosts = 1 #also publish hosts without name ^^^ Does Your config have this line? MaxPingsAtOnce = 256 I found res/lisa would not report a machine which could be pinged but offered no services (eg no samba, no ftp, etc), even with DeliverUnnamedHosts set to 1 it still failed to do this. However they are reported if you specifically name them (although by IP only), so if you wanted to able to use this to check your mailserver is still on the network you could add mailserver.localnet to PingNames. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Crazy stuff with osd and procmail
On Sun 13 Jan, Jeff Waugh made the following spurious claims: ONSCREEN=osd_cat --color=#ffe000 --offset=-70 --delay=2 --shadow=2 --font=-urw-eurostile-bold-r-normal-*-*-480-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1 :0 ich * ^Subject:.*\/.* | echo $MATCH | $ONSCREEN You also need a DISPLAY=:0 (or similar) in there for it to know where to stick the text. I use -b and -o 53 to get it just above KDE's bottom-bar thingy. Now Jeff, how would I get it to also put up the From address? -- Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rumble.net Think: In which world is speech most free: 1) A world where you can send single personal messages to anyone, but can't send multiple copies of the same message to people who haven't authorized you spending their resources that way. 2) A world where you only can send messages to people who have explicitly authorized you to do so. If we win the fight against spammers, we get world 1. If we lose, we get world 2. - Per Abrahamsen on slashdot -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Crazy stuff with osd and procmail
quote who=Rev Simon Rumble
You also need a DISPLAY=:0 (or similar) in there for it to know
where to stick the text.
And a few other bits... Such as pointing it to .Xauthority. See my
.procmailrc here for the rest: http://perkypants.org/dotfiles/
[ As if I had to explain that bit! ;) ]
Now Jeff, how would I get it to also put up the From address?
*grmph* Always doing people's dirty work for them... *grmph*
I was doing this in my head early this morning anyway... ;) You use a
procmail block to grab the two matches, then you echo them out. Example:
:0 c
* ^Subject:.*\/.*
{
SUBJECT=$MATCH
:0 ih
* ^From: .*\/[^]*
| echo $SUBJECT from $MATCH | $ONSCREEN
}
Note: I would have done echo -e $SUBJECT\n$MATCH, but this requires
support from osd_cat in the way of \n processing. It doesn't currently do
it, so you know what to do. ;)
- Jeff
--
It's actually my new bandwidth conservation technique: compresion of
al double leters. - Telsa Gwynne
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[SLUG] RAID1 system boot problem after new kernel compile
Hi all, I'm still stuck with the machine with RAID1 and recompiling the kernel. I've upgraded kernels for years but never done one with the built in RAID of linux and everytime I try to boot with a new kernel config, it crashes with a problem mounting root fs. My guess is that it's not loading the RAID drivers/software or something as it's fine on the old kernel. It's frustrating me to hell coz' I need to compile some important stuff and patch my iptables etc,etc Has anybody recompiled a NEW kernel from scratch (with a new .config) and has RAID1 running on it. Any help on this? thanks, George Vieira Systems Manager Citadel Computer Systems P/L -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] RAID1 system boot problem after new kernel compile
Have you got the RAID elements included as monolithic or as modules? If they are modules then you might need to build and use an initrd. Just a stab in the dark. On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, George Vieira wrote: Hi all, I'm still stuck with the machine with RAID1 and recompiling the kernel. I've upgraded kernels for years but never done one with the built in RAID of linux and everytime I try to boot with a new kernel config, it crashes with a problem mounting root fs. My guess is that it's not loading the RAID drivers/software or something as it's fine on the old kernel. It's frustrating me to hell coz' I need to compile some important stuff and patch my iptables etc,etc Has anybody recompiled a NEW kernel from scratch (with a new .config) and has RAID1 running on it. Any help on this? thanks, George Vieira Systems Manager Citadel Computer Systems P/L -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com We are either doing something, or we are not. 'Talking about' is a subset of 'not'. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] RAID1 system boot problem after new kernel compile
default=linux image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.2-2 label=linux initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.2-2.img read-only root=/dev/md5 image=/boot/vmlinux-2.4.16 label=firewall initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.2-2.img read-only root=/dev/md5 Could it be that I didn't update anything with the initrd 2.4.2-2 version? I've never had to touch it and yet have systems running quite fine..?? Should I be using mkinitrd, I've never created a new one (n00b he he) thanks, George Vieira Systems Manager Citadel Computer Systems P/L -Original Message- From: Howard Lowndes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 14 January 2002 8:12 AM To: George Vieira Cc: Sydney Linux Users Group (E-mail) Subject: Re: [SLUG] RAID1 system boot problem after new kernel compile Have you got the RAID elements included as monolithic or as modules? If they are modules then you might need to build and use an initrd. Just a stab in the dark. On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, George Vieira wrote: -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] RAID1 system boot problem after new kernel compile
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, George Vieira wrote: default=linux image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.2-2 label=linux initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.2-2.img read-only root=/dev/md5 image=/boot/vmlinux-2.4.16 label=firewall initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.2-2.img --- bz - wrong read-only root=/dev/md5 Could it be that I didn't update anything with the initrd 2.4.2-2 version? I've never had to touch it and yet have systems running quite fine..?? Should I be using mkinitrd, I've never created a new one (n00b he he) thanks, George Vieira Systems Manager Citadel Computer Systems P/L -Original Message- From: Howard Lowndes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 14 January 2002 8:12 AM To: George Vieira Cc: Sydney Linux Users Group (E-mail) Subject: Re: [SLUG] RAID1 system boot problem after new kernel compile Have you got the RAID elements included as monolithic or as modules? If they are modules then you might need to build and use an initrd. Just a stab in the dark. On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, George Vieira wrote: -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com We are either doing something, or we are not. 'Talking about' is a subset of 'not'. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] OT routing question
Hi all, This is OT but seemed the best place to ask a question about routing etc. I am having trouble connecting to one of the systems on my home network (I know about the IP range - it will be fixed), I can't connect from my W2K machine to a W98 machine, but believe the answer may not be in the OS. Below is the current routing table, the W2K machine is 192.0.0.52 the W98 machine is 192.0.0.5 is there any reason that I should not be able to ping or traceroute to the W98 machine? The server (NT) is 192.0.0.1 and I can ping and connect to that, and I can connect to a print server also sittign on the network using an IP address. (I am waiting on acquiring a system I can setup as a Linux server to change the server and the IP range - have tried two older systems so far but could get the install to work on neither - funds are the problem) C:\route print === Interface List 0x1 ... MS TCP Loopback interface 0x103 ...00 10 a4 f1 ff f0 .. Xircom Ethernet 10/100 PC Card === === Active Routes: Network DestinationNetmask Gateway Interface Metric 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.0.0.1 192.0.0.52 1 127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1 192.0.0.0 255.255.255.0192.0.0.52192.0.0.52 1 192.0.0.52 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1 192.0.0.255255.255.255.255 192.0.0.52 192.0.0.52 1 224.0.0.0 224.0.0.0192.0.0.52 192.0.0.52 1 255.255.255.255255.255.255.255 192.0.0.52 192.0.0.52 1 Default Gateway: 192.0.0.1 === Persistent Routes: None Simon Bryan IT Manager OLMC Parramatta http://www.olmc.nsw.edu.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] [OT] Someone subscribe me to linux-kernel
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, James wrote: Can someone please subscribe my address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the Linux kernel mailing list, by sending mail to the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the command: subscribe linux-kernel [EMAIL PROTECTED] This won't help you, as even if the subscription goes through your posts to the list won't. If all you want is RO, I'm sure a digest, summary, or the archives would work. The dickhead who manages this list has fucked it up and I cannot subscribe myself, not from any address. I must be on a bad IP block or something, this is the only possible reason I see now. Perhaps enquiring of the list admin (and leaving out the colourful adjectives) might solve your problem. There is the possibility that you're living in a spamhaus, in which case I suggest you find alternate lodgings. Ask relays.osirusoft.com (via their lovely rbcheck script) to see if the IP address you're using, or the mail server you use, is flagged. And calling the person whose resources you wish to consume for free a dickhead is not likely to help your position. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: just like the old days ...
On 14 Jan, Peter Allworth wrote: Based on their walk-through strategy, I can see a need for a Linux screensaver that looks just like the default NT screensaver or login screen! :) Ah, so Linux becomes like the French Resistance, hiding itself from the Microsoft scouts looking for businesses to target with their new anti- Linux warfare strategies. Brilliant! Actually, I remember a talk at SLUG, where afterward the presenter mentioned that he and another engineer were secretly using Linux on their machines instead of the mandated NT. They did a screen grab of the NT desktop and used it as the screensaver image, and as the background on a 2nd desktop they could flip too, in case a manager walked by. Then all they had to do was explain how they could keep working when all the Windows machines on the network went down. luke John Rosauer wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23518.html ... when IBM, DEC, etc were doing this against Unix -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] winbind and samba
Title: winbind and samba I download all the instuctions from the web how to configure winbind to work with samba, and I am planning to do it. just before I do it, I want to know is it hard to configure or triky , or any thing I need to watch for ? thanks xiaolu
Re: [SLUG] Re: just like the old days ...
It would be much more appropriate to use the M$ BSOD as a screen saver. I think that one comes standard with some Linux distros. Then that would really freak out the M$ account manager - Do they really have so many BSODs? Should I make a comment or not? On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14 Jan, Peter Allworth wrote: Based on their walk-through strategy, I can see a need for a Linux screensaver that looks just like the default NT screensaver or login screen! :) Ah, so Linux becomes like the French Resistance, hiding itself from the Microsoft scouts looking for businesses to target with their new anti- Linux warfare strategies. Brilliant! Actually, I remember a talk at SLUG, where afterward the presenter mentioned that he and another engineer were secretly using Linux on their machines instead of the mandated NT. They did a screen grab of the NT desktop and used it as the screensaver image, and as the background on a 2nd desktop they could flip too, in case a manager walked by. Then all they had to do was explain how they could keep working when all the Windows machines on the network went down. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com We are either doing something, or we are not. 'Talking about' is a subset of 'not'. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] ISP's AND INTERNET SOLUTIONS
Hello SLUG, I am new to Australia and this is my first post to SLUG. I am setting up a Linux firewall for our small network (10 Hosts). We currently have a Telstra ADSL connection, (1.5Mbps 500MB allow usage @ $130 pm). However I want a static IP address and they seem pretty anal about handing them out. I was wondering how reliable AAPT's Optus's ADSL networks are? Also what ISP's are Linux friendly and knowledgeable? I would like to be able to set up Squid to use the ISP's cache farm (Apparently Telstras is only available to 'Direct' customers). Regards, Daniel Harper UMR Research Australia Marketing and Issues Management Consultants Level 1, Suite 105, 332-342 Oxford Street, Bondi Junction, New South Wales, 2022. Australia Phone: 02 9386 1622 Fax: 02 9386 1633 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ISP's AND INTERNET SOLUTIONS
Quoting Daniel Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello SLUG, I am new to Australia and this is my first post to SLUG. I am setting up a Linux firewall for our small network (10 Hosts). We currently have a Telstra ADSL connection, (1.5Mbps 500MB allow usage @ $130 pm). However I want a static IP address and they seem pretty anal about handing them out. I was wondering how reliable AAPT's Optus's ADSL networks are? Take a look at www.alwaysonline.net.au - pretty good deals to be had. Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: just like the old days ...
It would be much more appropriate to use the M$ BSOD as a screen saver. I think that one comes standard with some Linux distros. Then that would really freak out the M$ account manager - Do they really have so many BSODs? Should I make a comment or not? Back when I worked at UWS, we (the UNIX admins) installed a BSOD screen saver on an NT file server as a joke. The NT admin spotted it (after about a week) and panicked - he rebooted the machine at least twice before realising what was going on. I also used to run the BSOD on my Sun there too, which used to confuse the hell out of the windoze weenies as well. There is absolutely no way that an MS marketing organism would ever find it's way into my data centre, BTW. The fact that they would even anticipate having access is a little odious too. We didn't even let the Sun bods in there half the time without constant supervision. I would certainly not leave an MS one alone in there - they'd be pulling the cables out of everything/rebooting and then blaming it on the competition rachel - This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ISP's AND INTERNET SOLUTIONS
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Daniel Harper wrote: I am setting up a Linux firewall for our small network (10 Hosts). We currently have a Telstra ADSL connection, (1.5Mbps 500MB allow usage @ $130 pm). However I want a static IP address and they seem pretty anal about handing them out. Business class accounts typically come with static addressing. I certainly wouldn't go within a mile of one that didn't. I was wondering how reliable AAPT's Optus's ADSL networks are? I'd say 'welcome to yo-yo city' about them in general. I've heard abysmal things about Telstra's service; a mod called Flow who say they have their own network is at least as bad; I haven't heard anything too bad about AAPT and Optus but they're probably not perfect either. Also what ISP's are Linux friendly and knowledgeable? I would like to be able to set up Squid to use the ISP's cache farm (Apparently Telstras is only available to 'Direct' customers). Well that's pretty useless. Yay to Telstra, another clever move. I wouldn't worry about the Linux friendlyness of any potential ISP - tell them to give you an Ethernet port and you'll do the rest. Cache farms might be an issue, but I can't see any decent ISP denying you access - after all, the more cache use they get, the less bandwidth is being sucked up, so they can have a higher contention ratio without people getting the $h1ts. There are plenty of ADSL providers around, so shop around for a half-way decent deal. whirlpool give a nice comparison. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Linux and the Next Generation
On Friday 11 January 2002 08:23, Broun, Bevan wrote: on Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 05:17:17PM +1100, Paul Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well there are now Linux stickers around my classroom and one machine will be a dual OS machine with Windows 98 and SuSE 7.3. The test will I have my machine at school (the p4 on my desk) set up as a Linux machine.I use it for all my functions at school and often spend time retrieving data from floppy disks that have been unreadable on the win2k machines in other staff rooms. Linux also controls part of the library network and free BSD runs our proxy server (gproxy)and internal email. There is as yet only one Linux machine available to the students on which to browse the net, but it is mostly used by the Linux literate students at school. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ISP's AND INTERNET SOLUTIONS
My experience of optus has been reasonably good. Don't know about AAPT. When I checked Optus offered a better deal. They now have business ADSL with fixed ip. On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Daniel Harper wrote: Hello SLUG, I am new to Australia and this is my first post to SLUG. I am setting up a Linux firewall for our small network (10 Hosts). We currently have a Telstra ADSL connection, (1.5Mbps 500MB allow usage @ $130 pm). However I want a static IP address and they seem pretty anal about handing them out. I was wondering how reliable AAPT's Optus's ADSL networks are? Also what ISP's are Linux friendly and knowledgeable? I would like to be able to set up Squid to use the ISP's cache farm (Apparently Telstras is only available to 'Direct' customers). Regards, Daniel Harper UMR Research Australia Marketing and Issues Management Consultants Level 1, Suite 105, 332-342 Oxford Street, Bondi Junction, New South Wales, 2022. Australia Phone: 02 9386 1622 Fax: 02 9386 1633 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ISP's AND INTERNET SOLUTIONS
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am new to Australia and this is my first post to SLUG. I am setting up a Linux firewall for our small network (10 Hosts). We currently have a Telstra ADSL connection, (1.5Mbps 500MB allow usage @ $130 pm). However I want a static IP address and they seem pretty anal about handing them out. I was wondering how reliable AAPT's Optus's ADSL networks are? Take a look at www.alwaysonline.net.au - pretty good deals to be had. $300/month with 15c/MB? Not hardly. They're only Sydney Metro, too, which reduces their utility for anyone with multiple sites. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ISP's AND INTERNET SOLUTIONS
At 13:02 14/01/2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this up the stick: Take a look at www.alwaysonline.net.au - pretty good deals to be had. nice plug ;) -- Guns don't kill people, I do. [15200.8 km (8207.8 mi), 262.8 deg](Apparent) Rennerian This is random quote 457 of a collection of 1201 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ISP's AND INTERNET SOLUTIONS
I was where you are a year ago or so and slug definately helped me with the PPPOE setup issues: I'm using Pacific Internet, have clients using Netspace and Connect.com and a collegue with Telstra - all ADSL - all linux boxes. For a business, everything else is too expensive or old tech (unless you bend the rules). Whilst I initially had a lot of problems getting PacNet running, it turned out my network card was the problem. Since then I've experienced 100% uptime. Same with client using Netspace. Connect went down once but that was a DNS problem. Some points to note: Cost: Connect.com make you use a cisco router (which they can log into for maintenance) and are by far the most expensive. Their support is generally excellent. Reliability: My experience with clients and personally is that ADSL from these three suppliers is rock solid, cheap and waaay better than telstra on price and static IPness. They do not have any hang ups about Linux although it's up to you to install (this is easy both PPPOE and PPTP are not a prob.). Conclusions: I'd recommend PacNet as they've gone the extra km for me a couple of times. They're also reasonably priced (at least they were when I signed up). For 24x7 business support, talk to connect.com if they're available in your area, expect to pay 3x or more and be lumbered with a cisco router. I'd recommend that you do not go Telstra as a collegue has had HUGE problems with them - also they do not do static IPs. Netspace are also v. reliable based on a sample set of one. Of course YKMV (Your kilometers may vary). HTH Stuart Guthrie Daniel Harper wrote: Hello SLUG, I am new to Australia and this is my first post to SLUG. I am setting up a Linux firewall for our small network (10 Hosts). We currently have a Telstra ADSL connection, (1.5Mbps 500MB allow usage @ $130 pm). However I want a static IP address and they seem pretty anal about handing them out. I was wondering how reliable AAPT's Optus's ADSL networks are? Also what ISP's are Linux friendly and knowledgeable? I would like to be able to set up Squid to use the ISP's cache farm (Apparently Telstras is only available to 'Direct' customers). Regards, Daniel Harper UMR Research Australia Marketing and Issues Management Consultants Level 1, Suite 105, 332-342 Oxford Street, Bondi Junction, New South Wales, 2022. Australia Phone: 02 9386 1622 Fax: 02 9386 1633 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ISP's AND INTERNET SOLUTIONS
On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 01:19:20PM +1100, David wrote: My experience of optus has been reasonably good. Don't know about AAPT. don't know about the AAPT ADSL product but as a company I wouldn't touch AAPT with a very long barge pole! Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Disguising Linux (Was: [SLUG] Re: just like the old days ...)
On Mon, 2002-01-14 at 12:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brilliant! Actually, I remember a talk at SLUG, where afterward the presenter mentioned that he and another engineer were secretly using Linux on their machines instead of the mandated NT. They did a screen grab of the NT desktop and used it as the screensaver image, and as the background on a 2nd desktop they could flip too, in case a manager walked by. Heh. :-) Fortunately, it's even easier to do that these days, with a little bit of care. Compare and contrast: http://home.pacific.net.au/~peterhardy/win-desktop.png http://home.pacific.net.au/~peterhardy/linux-desktop.png One being a shot of Windows ME, and the other being GNOME 1.4 with nautilus. You'd probably get even better results with KDE and Konqueror, but I don't have it installed. Careful choice of window manager, and a little fiddling with [GK]DM would be sure to fool the nosiest of PHBs. -- Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: Disguising Linux (Was: [SLUG] Re: just like the old days ...)
I'm thinking of making my own windows version for Linux.. called Windows Xtinct... Using Gnome and patch up the icons to look like windows enough to fool the Boss. Anybody care to help me modify the icons etc.. eg. how to change the gnome foot button?? -Original Message- From: Peter Hardy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 2:13 PM To: slug Subject: Disguising Linux (Was: [SLUG] Re: just like the old days ...) Heh. :-) Fortunately, it's even easier to do that these days, with a little bit of care. Compare and contrast: http://home.pacific.net.au/~peterhardy/win-desktop.png http://home.pacific.net.au/~peterhardy/linux-desktop.png -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: Disguising Linux (Was: [SLUG] Re: just like the old days ...)
quote who=George Vieira Anybody care to help me modify the icons etc.. eg. how to change the gnome foot button?? Right-click, hit properties. You'd want to modify the packages, however, for easy installation, etc. - Jeff -- The implementation of any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from pr0n. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] RE: [OT] burned on a deal
The unit in question, Opti-UPS PowerES 420ES came from the online auction site at http://www.auctiontraders.com.au. But when it arrived I found it sports those three-point straight pin power plugs used in the States. Apparently it was not intended for sale in Australia! Oops, that's one little detail that got left out of the description on their website... Yankie power points have only 2 pin connectors they look a little like | | See Yanks don't have an on/off switch nor do they have earth. Because I have a few appliences from the US and I have a few transformers for them If you have a UPS that has pin connectors that look a little like this - - | I think you have a server class UPS the reason why I say this is because that is what all our HP multi port addapters look like. Are these points for the input? or the output? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Mozilla Spell Check
Hi All, The other night I downloaded Mozilla 0.9.7. I went for the typical install with just Navigator, Mail and News. I have found, however, that there does not seem to be a spell checker for out going e-mails. Is this the case for the typical installation? Have I done something wrong? Regards Paul Copeland -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ISP's AND INTERNET SOLUTIONS
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Daniel Harper wrote:
I am new to Australia and this is my first post to SLUG.
Welcome to insanity. :-)
I am setting up a Linux firewall for our small network (10 Hosts). We
currently have a Telstra ADSL connection, (1.5Mbps 500MB allow usage @ $130
pm). However I want a static IP address and they seem pretty anal about
handing them out.
I was wondering how reliable AAPT's Optus's ADSL networks are?
About the same as Telstra - in fact, almost exactly the same, because
except in a very small percentage of cases, they {AAPT and Optus} simply
sublet cable plant {DSLAM's, routers to the network demarkation point
etc} from Telstra.
Optus do frame realy over DSL tails, and I've setup a couple of sites
using that - once the original headaches are over and done with, it's
pretty reliable. Maybe you could look at that.
Also what ISP's are Linux friendly and knowledgeable? I would like to be
able to set up Squid to use the ISP's cache farm (Apparently Telstras is
only available to 'Direct' customers).
Pacific Internet {formerly Zipworld} seems to be pretty clued up in Sydney
- the machine I'm posting this from is Debian, and they still have Linux
savvy techs on staff.
Their ADSL is a touch more expensive than Telstra at the inital fee, but
if you do a lot of data {3 gig or better per month} it works out about even
in cost because Pacific's data rate for downloads is lower.
DaZZa
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Re: [SLUG] Mozilla Spell Check
spell check isnt in yet, you can read about it on mozilla.org Dean Paul Copeland wrote: Hi All, The other night I downloaded Mozilla 0.9.7. I went for the typical install with just Navigator, Mail and News. I have found, however, that there does not seem to be a spell checker for out going e-mails. Is this the case for the typical installation? Have I done something wrong? Regards Paul Copeland -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ISP's AND INTERNET SOLUTIONS
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Matthew Palmer wrote: I'd say 'welcome to yo-yo city' about them in general. I've heard abysmal things about Telstra's service; a mod called Flow who say they have their own network is at least as bad; I haven't heard anything too bad about AAPT and Optus but they're probably not perfect either. I think you'll find that Flow do use Telstra. I had an issue with them a couple of months back when I discovered that I couldn't do assymetric routing thru them (in one door, our the other). I suggested that they must be blocking something. After a few heated exchanges they finally admitted that it was in their agreement with Telstra that they would not do AR. So I reckon they must be using Telstra, at least in the regions. Also what ISP's are Linux friendly and knowledgeable? I would like to be able to set up Squid to use the ISP's cache farm (Apparently Telstras is only available to 'Direct' customers). I don't think you will find that is true. I have several BPB ADSL sites that still use the BPD proxy caches without any probs. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com We are either doing something, or we are not. 'Talking about' is a subset of 'not'. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ISP's AND INTERNET SOLUTIONS
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Howard Lowndes wrote: I'd say 'welcome to yo-yo city' about them in general. I've heard abysmal things about Telstra's service; a mod called Flow who say they have their own network is at least as bad; I haven't heard anything too bad about AAPT and Optus but they're probably not perfect either. I think you'll find that Flow do use Telstra. I had an issue with them a I should have disclaimed that statement - I have no personal knowledge of Flow's network arrangements, I was only going from their rather prominent statement on their website: FLOW has designed, built and now operates a sophisticated network with the widest geographical reach of any independent communications company in Australia. As we own the majority of our network, our customers have come to enjoy affordable and reliable data transport services that are second to none. (from http://www.flow.com.au/products_services.html) From the second sentence, I'd say they have some of their own and use Telstra's elsewhere (including, I guess, the parts you are operating in). Also what ISP's are Linux friendly and knowledgeable? I would like to be able to set up Squid to use the ISP's cache farm (Apparently Telstras is only available to 'Direct' customers). I don't think you will find that is true. I have several BPB ADSL sites that still use the BPD proxy caches without any probs. It seems odd that any ISP wouldn't want users using their proxies. I know a couple of dial-up ISPs I've used over the years shoving proxies down their user's throats... -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: Disguising Linux (Was: [SLUG] Re: just like the old days ...)
On Mon, 2002-01-14 at 14:25, George Vieira wrote: I'm thinking of making my own windows version for Linux.. called Windows Xtinct... Using Gnome and patch up the icons to look like windows enough to fool the Boss. You could do that, but the screenshots at http://qvwm.org are scarily MS-like. Or it could be a good source of icons for your own project.. Anybody care to help me modify the icons etc.. eg. how to change the gnome foot button?? Right-click - Properties - Icon -- Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Hey Sweetie
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Re: [SLUG] ISP's AND INTERNET SOLUTIONS
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Martin wrote: It seems odd that any ISP wouldn't want users using their proxies. I know a couple of dial-up ISPs I've used over the years shoving proxies down their user's throats... telstra doesn't restrict access to their cache. but my understanding is that only direct customers get the reduced data prices for proxy traffic. if you are just a normal customer you pay full price per MB no matter where it is coming from. Aah, that's the Telstra I know and love (to hate). Of course. It doesn't cost us anything, but gee we're going to charge you full price for it. OK, it's not quite zero, but still less than $0.15/MB. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
