Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread John Ferlito
On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 06:19:26PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: So, Here's some silly shell... $ grep bogomips /proc/cpuinfo | awk '{ print + $3 }' | tr -d '\n' | cut -c 2- | bc 6121.06 Your mission: To work out what it's doing, why you'd be stupid enough to want to do it, and then

Re: [SLUG] Zope passwords

2003-03-18 Thread Mehmet
This is somewhere in the security.txt file -if it dont work I dunno as Ive used this a few times but not on a 2.4 version. Syntax is: python zpassword.py -u $user -p $password filename so if you want to set the initial user, python zpassword.py -u admin -p PASSWORD inituser I recommend

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread mlh
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:19:26 +1100 Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's some silly shell... $ grep bogomips /proc/cpuinfo | awk '{ print + $3 }' | tr -d '\n' | cut -c 2- | bc 6121.06 Your mission: To work out what it's doing, why you'd be stupid enough to want to do it, and

Re: [SLUG] Mounting a floppy drive, RH8.0

2003-03-18 Thread Heracles
On Tuesday 18 Mar 2003 1:58 pm, Bill Bennett wrote: I've just installed RH 8.0 on the laptop. I tried to keep what went on to a minimum (in truth, I do not understand what many of the applications do) but the installation did, at least, complete itself. I wanted to move some files from a

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread Jessica Mayo
Can't resist a shell challenge, can I?... :) On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Jeff Waugh wrote: Here's some silly shell... $ grep bogomips /proc/cpuinfo | awk '{ print + $3 }' | tr -d '\n' | cut -c 2- | bc 6121.06 Very silly. awk + tr + cut is highly redundant and bc is not installed on my system.

[SLUG] Re: dektop publishing

2003-03-18 Thread Geoffrey Cowling
Im using Scribus at the moment, but im having some problems with it. And as far as i know, crossover office doesn't supprt ms publisher (any other emulators do?) Has anyone used Lyx? Would it do the job? Geoffrey -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info:

RE: [SLUG] desktop publishing software

2003-03-18 Thread Ken Foskey
On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 10:34, Robert Tillsley wrote: Im using Scribus at the moment, but im having some problems with it. And as far as i know, crossover office doesn't supprt ms publisher (any other emulators do?) Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Hi I'd also be

RE: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread Theo Julienne
How about: grep bogomips /proc/cpuinfo | awk '{ print $3 }' --- Kind Regards, Theo Julienne -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread CaT
On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 06:33:44PM +1100, James Gregory wrote: On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 18:19, Jeff Waugh wrote: Your mission: To work out what it's doing, why you'd be stupid enough to want to do it, and then how to do it better. It has to be in shell, and it has to handle decimals! :-)

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread Damien Gardner Jnr
From: Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ grep bogomips /proc/cpuinfo | awk '{ print + $3 }' | tr -d '\n' | cut -c 2- | bc 6121.06 Your mission: To work out what it's doing, why you'd be stupid enough to want to do it, and then how to do it better. It has to be in shell, and it has to handle

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread John Ferlito
On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 09:19:58PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:19:26 +1100 Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: awk '/bogomips/ {print $3}' /proc/cpuinfo or am I missing something? Yes he's trying to add up the bogomips for multiple CPU's, stumped me for a

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread Jessica Mayo
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, John Ferlito wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 06:19:26PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: Here's some silly shell... $ grep bogomips /proc/cpuinfo | awk '{ print + $3 }' | tr -d '\n' | cut -c 2- | bc 6121.06 Your mission: To work out what it's doing, why you'd be

[SLUG] Radeon Type under Debian

2003-03-18 Thread mick
Patrick Lesslie asked BTW, what kind of Radeon do you have? I have powered by ATi radeon 7500VE Dual Head 64MB Video Card. RedHat used to install it as a Radeon 7500QW. Regards Mick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread mlh
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:40:44 +1100 John Ferlito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 09:19:58PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:19:26 +1100 Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: awk '/bogomips/ {print $3}' /proc/cpuinfo or am I missing

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread mlh
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:02:38 +1100 John Ferlito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $ awk '{ if(/bogomips/){ SUM+=$3 } } END {print SUM}' /proc/cpuinfo Except no need for if, '/pattern/ {action}' is idiomatic awk: $ awk '/bogomips/ { SUM+=$3 } } END {print SUM}' /proc/cpuinfo -- SLUG - Sydney Linux

RE: [SLUG] rpm to deal with dependencies !!

2003-03-18 Thread LS
Hi Andrew: I have read this detailed analysis and I understand a bit better how to handle rpms. However I just spent some time reading the upgrade manual provided by Ensim (probably should have done that first before upgrading). In there thay talk about some of the dependency rpm errors that

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:02:38 +1100 John Ferlito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $ awk '{ if(/bogomips/){ SUM+=$3 } } END {print SUM}' /proc/cpuinfo Except no need for if, '/pattern/ {action}' is idiomatic awk: $ awk '/bogomips/ { SUM+=$3 } } END {print SUM}'

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread Phil Scarratt
You lot really do have too much time on your hands:) Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:02:38 +1100 John Ferlito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $ awk '{ if(/bogomips/){ SUM+=$3 } } END {print SUM}' /proc/cpuinfo Except no need for if, '/pattern/ {action}' is

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Phil Scarratt You lot really do have too much time on your hands:) This is a SLUG tradition! :-) - Jeff -- Acts of random. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info:

[SLUG] Anybody bought a modem to use with Linxu recently...looking for suggestions for V.90/v.92/kflex

2003-03-18 Thread t
hi i am after a hardware modem which supports v.90/v.92/kflex. Has anybody bough a modem recently with these specs and can recomend/non-recomend any models. Thanks for you help Tony -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] Radeon Type under Debian

2003-03-18 Thread Patrick Lesslie
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, mick wrote: I have powered by ATi radeon 7500VE Dual Head 64MB Video Card. RedHat used to install it as a Radeon 7500QW. AFAIK, you should be able to use the XF86Config-4 that you used for Redhat, in Debian. I notice you posted the very file to slug [1] last September :)

Re: [SLUG] Anybody bought a modem to use with Linxu recently...lookingfor suggestions for V.90/v.92/kflex

2003-03-18 Thread Phil Scarratt
Don't buy a winmodem. Fil t wrote: hi i am after a hardware modem which supports v.90/v.92/kflex. Has anybody bough a modem recently with these specs and can recomend/non-recomend any models. Thanks for you help Tony -- Phil Scarratt Draxsen Technologies IT Contractor/Consultant 0403 53

Re: [SLUG] rpm to deal with dependencies !!

2003-03-18 Thread Andrew Monkhouse
Hi Louis, If their install script will handle everything (presumably by getting working versions of the packages from /tmp/extrarpms), then you should not need to rebuild any of the packages. My suggestion of recompiling is only necessary if you need those packages, you cannot upgrade them, and

RE: [SLUG] Mounting a floppy drive, RH8.0

2003-03-18 Thread Robert Tillsley
what about mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /x where x equals the folder you are mounting it to? Rob T -Original Message- From: Bill Bennett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2003 1:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Mounting a floppy drive, RH8.0 I've just

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread mkraus
How about just: awk '{if(/bogomips/){print $3}}' /proc/cpuinfo | bc 6121.06 (NB. Adding a + with awk and removing the newline with tr, only to reverse both of those with cut is futile.) Although just: echo File 6210.06 is unavailable. Would probably be the simplest ;) All the best...

Re: [SLUG] Re: dektop publishing

2003-03-18 Thread Simon Wong
On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 18:57, Geoffrey Cowling wrote: Im using Scribus at the moment, but im having some problems with it. And as far as i know, crossover office doesn't supprt ms publisher (any other emulators do?) Has anyone used Lyx? Would it do the job? Lyx is GREAT for

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread mkraus
G'day... Why would you want to add up the bogomips of all processors though? If it was to estimate total processing power it wouldn't be accurate - After all 2 x 1GHz processors != 1 x 2GHz processor and bogomips are an approximation themselves. Curious... Mike --- Michael S. E. Kraus

Re: FW: [SLUG] desktop publishing software

2003-03-18 Thread James Gregory
On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 09:32, Robert Tillsley wrote: Arg, must remember to reply to list... 1 minor addition: Is it likely that openoffice will support saving files as pdfs in future? It won't do it (well, not now, I left my crystal ball at home unfortunately), but you can get pdfs from OOo

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Why would you want to add up the bogomips of all processors though? Because whoever has the most bogomips at the end, wins. ;-) - Jeff -- It's not just a song! It's a document of my life! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group -

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Why would you want to add up the bogomips of all processors though? (It was a silly idea for a SLUG shell challenge, with a bit of a brain teaser about Linux features to boot.) - Jeff -- jwz? no way man, he's my idle - James Wilkinson

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread Steve Kowalik
At 10:52 am, Wednesday, March 19 2003, Jeff Waugh mumbled: Because whoever has the most bogomips at the end, wins. Okay, I'll bite. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ awk '/bogomips/ { SUM+=$3 } END {print SUM}' /proc/cpuinfo 7982.27 What do I win? A good kick in the pants? --

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread Ben Leslie
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Steve Kowalik wrote: At 10:52 am, Wednesday, March 19 2003, Jeff Waugh mumbled: Because whoever has the most bogomips at the end, wins. Okay, I'll bite. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ awk '/bogomips/ { SUM+=$3 } END {print SUM}' /proc/cpuinfo 7982.27 What do I win? A good

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread Colin Humphreys
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 11:18:40AM +1100, Steve Kowalik wrote: At 10:52 am, Wednesday, March 19 2003, Jeff Waugh mumbled: Because whoever has the most bogomips at the end, wins. Okay, I'll bite. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ awk '/bogomips/ { SUM+=$3 } END {print SUM}' /proc/cpuinfo 7982.27 I

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread Steve Kowalik
At 11:30 am, Wednesday, March 19 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mumbled: Hrmm... Maybe the joy of having 2 P4 processors on your Linux box... Pentium 4's are brain-damaged, and can't be used in an SMP configuration. Intel want you to buy Xeons for SMP. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ egrep '(model name|MHz)'

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread Anthony Wood
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 11:25:57AM +1100, Ben Leslie wrote: On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Steve Kowalik wrote: At 10:52 am, Wednesday, March 19 2003, Jeff Waugh mumbled: Because whoever has the most bogomips at the end, wins. Okay, I'll bite. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ awk '/bogomips/ {

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread Anthony Wood
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 11:25:57AM +1100, Ben Leslie wrote: On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Steve Kowalik wrote: At 10:52 am, Wednesday, March 19 2003, Jeff Waugh mumbled: Because whoever has the most bogomips at the end, wins. Okay, I'll bite. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ awk '/bogomips/ {

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread Tony Green
On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 11:41, Anthony Wood wrote: awk '/BogoMips/i { SUM+=$3 } END {print SUM}' /proc/cpuinfo # awk '/BogoMips/i { SUM+=$3 } END {print SUM}' /proc/cpuinfo slug-chat # How odd. ;-) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info:

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19-03-2003 11:35:16 AM: At 11:30 am, Wednesday, March 19 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mumbled: Hrmm... Maybe the joy of having 2 P4 processors on your Linux box... Pentium 4's are brain-damaged, and can't be used in an SMP configuration. Intel want you to buy Xeons

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Steve Kowalik wrote: At 10:52 am, Wednesday, March 19 2003, Jeff Waugh mumbled: Because whoever has the most bogomips at the end, wins. Okay, I'll bite. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ awk '/bogomips/ { SUM+=$3 } END {print SUM}' /proc/cpuinfo 7982.27 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Jeff Waugh wrote: So, Here's some silly shell... $ grep bogomips /proc/cpuinfo | awk '{ print + $3 }' | tr -d '\n' | cut -c 2- | bc 6121.06 Your mission: To work out what it's doing, why you'd be stupid enough to want to do it, and then how to do it better. It

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Jeff Waugh wrote: It has to be in shell, Awk isn't shell. zsh is shell. a=`for i in ${(f)$(i/proc/cpufreq)}; do case $i in bogomips*) echo + ${i/bogomips*:/};; esac; done` echo $((0 $a)) I tried to get it down to one line, but zsh complained about bad

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread Steve Kowalik
At 11:50 am, Wednesday, March 19 2003, Jamie Wilkinson mumbled: I tried to get it down to one line, but zsh complained about bad substitutions with the backticks, despite the manpage saying it'd do command substitutions within a $(()) expression. It should be able to do that. I know bash

[SLUG] Debian, apt-get Xfree updates

2003-03-18 Thread Mick Boda
Hi all, Okay, I know there was a post regarding this but I can't find it in the archives. Working through the debian reference... great guide! I managed to get to the debian security updates by editing my /apt/sources.list. I can't seem to find a way to get XFree updates the same way? Mick

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Anthony Wood awk '/BogoMips/i { SUM+=$3 } END {print SUM}' /proc/cpuinfo I tried that too, but didn't post it: $ echo -e BogoMIPS : 10\nBogoMIPS : 10\nEstoy : 10 | awk '/bogomips/i { SUM+=$3 } END {print SUM}' 30 - Jeff -- If the Internet really wanted to become sentient,

Re: [SLUG] Debian, apt-get Xfree updates

2003-03-18 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Mick Boda I managed to get to the debian security updates by editing my /apt/sources.list. I can't seem to find a way to get XFree updates the same way? See http://www.apt-get.org/ for a whole stack of unofficial repositories. Note the unofficial bit! :-) - Jeff -- PHP, when

[SLUG] Please explain ........

2003-03-18 Thread Mick Boda
Hi All, Sorry about the dual posts. I came across the below article (extract) op. But now that I'm catching up, I have a question for Gianfranco: is there some reason that you couldn't just use the Debian kernel packages? I've had pretty good luck just doing 'apt-get install

[SLUG] installing java for Mozilla

2003-03-18 Thread Perry, David J
I need to install java support for Mozilla 1.0.1 on Redhat 8.0. I can't access many of the features on the telstra.com site such as web mail and shmbo is getting bolshy and saying why can't I have Windows back? My RH8.0 box at work was installed with all applications loaded (it took several

Re: [SLUG] installing java for Mozilla

2003-03-18 Thread David Fitch
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 11:49:09AM +1000, Perry, David J wrote: Does anyone have a simple explanation for installing the java plugins? I have searched Google and am rather overwhelmed by the instructions I have seen so far. I've had a great lack of success with java plugins and web

Re: [SLUG] installing java for Mozilla

2003-03-18 Thread Adam Hewitt
As you will find here: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html#Java there are instructions for installing Java... Cheers, Adam. On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 12:49, Perry, David J wrote: I need to install java support for Mozilla 1.0.1 on Redhat 8.0. I can't access many of the features on the

Re: [SLUG] installing java for Mozilla

2003-03-18 Thread Andrewd
If you go to the netscape site you can download the netscape java plugin and (for me) it installed perfectly and worked from the word go on mozilla. On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 11:49:09AM +1000, Perry, David J wrote: Does anyone have a simple explanation for installing the java plugins? I have

Re: [SLUG] installing java for Mozilla

2003-03-18 Thread John McQuillen
On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 12:49, Perry, David J wrote: I need to install java support for Mozilla 1.0.1 on Redhat 8.0. I can't access many of the features on the telstra.com site such as web mail and shmbo is getting bolshy and saying why can't I have Windows back? My RH8.0 box at work was

Re: [SLUG] installing java for Mozilla

2003-03-18 Thread David Fitch
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 01:03:43PM +1100, Andrewd wrote: If you go to the netscape site you can download the netscape java plugin and (for me) it installed perfectly and worked from the word go on mozilla. yeah got the plugins, but it crashes mozilla whenever I go to a java website. I've had

[SLUG] LDAP Gurus

2003-03-18 Thread Jon Biddell
Any LDAP gurus here ? I'm looking at replacing an $80k/year Novell eDirectory server on Win2K with LDAP on Linux and I want to see if there are any major problems with this idea. Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] LDAP Gurus

2003-03-18 Thread Kevin Saenz
Hi Jon Depends on how you are going to do this. If you are going to have LDAP being the central database for authenticating w2k users you may need to install on w2k some unix tools supplied by microsoft. As far as I know there are no microsoft schema's available for openldap, I think there are

RE: [SLUG] LDAP Gurus

2003-03-18 Thread Jon Biddell
Ideally, I'd like to dump the Windows side of things alltogether - they are using a VERY minimal part of eDirectory for authentication and nothing more... $80k/.year is WAY too much for what they are doing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf

Re: [SLUG] LDAP Gurus

2003-03-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Jon Biddell wrote: Any LDAP gurus here ? Let's say, LDAP experienced... I'm looking at replacing an $80k/year Novell eDirectory server on Win2K with LDAP on Linux and I want to see if there are any major problems with this idea. No experience with eDirectory, which is

[SLUG] Cabinets

2003-03-18 Thread Jon Biddell
I'm on the scrounge for a cabinet for a very overbudget project. Standard 19 rack mounting, 850mm deep (730 between the rail mounts), and anything up to 2.2m high. Front / back doors NOT required, but side panels would be nice if it has them. Cost: Preferably FREE if possible (we ARE a

Re: [SLUG] Silly shell challenge

2003-03-18 Thread Norman Gaywood
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 11:18:40AM +1100, Steve Kowalik wrote: At 10:52 am, Wednesday, March 19 2003, Jeff Waugh mumbled: Because whoever has the most bogomips at the end, wins. Okay, I'll bite. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ awk '/bogomips/ { SUM+=$3 } END {print SUM}' /proc/cpuinfo 7982.27

Re: [SLUG] Cabinets

2003-03-18 Thread Mick Boda
Hi Jon, If you're anywhere near Sydney, it's well worth stopping in at the Pickles Auction guys and asking around. They had a stack of cabinets at one stage . If you can get around to see them and they have any left they are usually quite helpful, even if your there on a non - auction day.

RE: [SLUG] Cabinets

2003-03-18 Thread Jon Biddell
Darn good idea Thanks Mick... Jon p.s. Strathfield - Hi Jon, If you're anywhere near Sydney, it's well worth stopping in at the Pickles Auction guys and asking around. They had a stack of cabinets at one stage . If you

[SLUG] Nomination for SLUG election

2003-03-18 Thread greebo
Hi all, I'd like to nominate Tony Green for Vice President. Good luck Tony, and everyone! :) Pia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] apt-get RPMS ?/Downloading with Lynx/ What does mean in Debian?

2003-03-18 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Mick Boda wrote: I was wondering if there was any resolution on an earlier post about using apt-get to retrieve and install rpms? I didn't read the earlier post, but the short answer is you can use apt-rpm to install RPMs on RPM based systems, such as Red Hat,

[SLUG] SLUG AGM: Nominations update

2003-03-18 Thread Mary Gardiner
REMINDER: If you can't attend the AGM and you're going to appoint a proxy to vote for you, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] and tell them your name and the name of the person proxying for you. REQUEST: Can people please use their full name when nominating others? On with the show: As at 19th March,

[SLUG] How To Get 1 Million Visitors On Your Website 0059OVpN8-081LvkO2185Bdxt-24

2003-03-18 Thread mizunk00sjud
Hi, How can the regular guy really get 1 million visitors on his web site without spending a dime in advertisement? I have to get this off my chest before I explode. . I'm Stephan Ducharme. It seams like everybody is now calling me the Free Ad Guru. Well, I admit that my secrets on how to get