Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-11 Thread Morrissey
Jon Biddell wrote: You should talk to a lawyer and find out whether they are allowed to do that (for now, they'll change their licensing scheme the next time around if too many people refuse ..) etc. or will allow Microsoft or their Authorised Representatives access to such hardware

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-08 Thread Jon Biddell
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 21:52, David Kempe wrote: They will expect me or my colleague to allow them access to the server room and to have access to all machines - no bloody way. They will not touch !!! And I refuse to remove the boot-up password on my PC !! Hey just out of interest on

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-08 Thread Jon Biddell
Heard today that in about 6 weeks, after I return from leave, Microsoft or their paid minions are comming in to do a software audit. Or, rather, a licencing audit. Who are you working for? I didnt expect that Big Brother is watching you (not the telly series) is already here

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-07 Thread Heracles
DaZZa wrote: snip Why? Why should I be forced to get RSI from rolling a mouse, invest more and more into video cards to keep up with the growing trend to drop support for older stuff, bloat my OS with a GUI I barely ever use just to make convention more pleasant for people who are too lazy or

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-07 Thread Jon Biddell
- Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to using Microsoft products for mission-critical applications (What Yoda really meant to say) - Attribute quotes

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-07 Thread Ben Leslie
On Thu, 07 Jun 2001, Heracles wrote: DaZZa wrote: snip Why? Why should I be forced to get RSI from rolling a mouse, invest more and more into video cards to keep up with the growing trend to drop support for older stuff, bloat my OS with a GUI I barely ever use just to make convention

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-07 Thread Rachel Polanskis
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Jon Biddell wrote: What I plan to do is to have my Linux posters up, my Windows Free Zone crime-scene tape on the workstation, and the work PC booting off a SuSE Live CD (so I don't have to screw up even more an already knackered and feeble Windows 2000 workstation).

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-07 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 08:38:12PM +1000, Jon Biddell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [snip] Heard today that in about 6 weeks, after I return from leave, Microsoft or their paid minions are comming in to do a software audit. Or, rather, a licencing audit. Who are you working for? I didnt

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-07 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 08:15:29PM +1000, Heracles ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: DaZZa wrote: snip Why? Why should I be forced to get RSI from rolling a mouse, invest more and more into video cards to keep up with the growing trend to drop support for older stuff, bloat my OS with a GUI I

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-07 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 09:33:21AM +1000, DaZZa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: [snip] Why? Why should I be forced to get RSI from rolling a mouse, invest more and more into video cards to keep up with the growing trend to drop support for older

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-07 Thread DaZZa
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: Why? Why should I be forced to get RSI from rolling a mouse, invest more and more into video cards to keep up with the growing trend to drop support for older stuff, bloat my OS with a GUI I barely ever use just to make convention more

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-06 Thread DaZZa
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: Not part of HTML 1.0 AFAIK, which is all my version of lynx supports. I have to say (without wanting to start a Frame War) that frames greatly reduce the amount of traffic generated. If you have three frames: * main menu * sub menu *

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-06 Thread DaZZa
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Andre Pang wrote: Now explain in words of two syllables or less how the ^%$ you render frames on a _text_ screen with a _fixed_ character set? 1. try: links. 2. apt-get install links fred:~ # apt-get install links bash: apt-get: command not found fred:~ #

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-06 Thread Terry Collins
Jeff Waugh wrote: It's a heads up from a SLUGger about a job that may assist one of our friends to find employment using Linux and Free Software. If the list wants any slugger to post any job, then they should say it. I only offered my 2c. The conspiracy theories are getting tiresome,

Links [was Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement]

2001-06-06 Thread Tom Massey
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, DaZZa wrote: Anyone know a mirror/new location for this? Try http://links.browser.org which is actually a redirect to http://artax.kerlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mikules/links/. And indeed, Links does rock. :-) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-06 Thread Jon Biddell
TANSTAAFL. :-) Let's see how many get THIS one ..:-) \ -- - Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to using Microsoft products for mission-critical applications (What Yoda really meant to say)

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-06 Thread DaZZa
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Jon Biddell wrote: - Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to using Microsoft products for mission-critical applications (What Yoda really meant to say)

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-06 Thread Umar Goldeli
Fear leads to consultants, consultants lead to NT, NT leads to suffering I'm going to have to bite on this one.. consultants should be defined further - clueless consultants perhaps.. :) //umar (consultant who breaks out in hives when M$ products are mentioned) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-06 Thread Tom Massey
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Jon Biddell wrote: TANSTAAFL. :-) Let's see how many get THIS one ..:-) You mean there are people out there who haven't read Heinlein? Shame on them all. :-) But it is actually of course a reference to the well known German company... http://www.tanstaafl.de. -- SLUG

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-06 Thread enterfornone
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, DaZZa wrote: links is _superb_. that's all i have to say. Freshmeat is your friend. Except when the listed homepage no longer exists. http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mikulas/links/ Google is your friend. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List -

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-06 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Terry Collins Sorry, Jeff. I didn't know that you actually contracted through agencies. An idiotic, innaccurate retort on your part. I'll totally butt out of helping people find work on the Slug list now. You are obviously keen to take over the roll. Thank you. I'd be quite happy

Web pages and bandwidth (was: Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement)

2001-06-06 Thread Andrew Bennetts
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 03:37:25PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: [ It is better to save precious bandwidth by designing pages better, using less images, and gzipping the data if the client supports it. Breaking the UI is no excuse for ill-conceived design. ] Or wait for rproxy to become widely

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-06 Thread DaZZa
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, enterfornone wrote: Freshmeat is your friend. Except when the listed homepage no longer exists. http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mikulas/links/ Google is your friend. I didn't need help finding that - I couldn't connect to it. The name didn't resolv. Never mind. I

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-06 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 05:48:26PM +1000, DaZZa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: Not part of HTML 1.0 AFAIK, which is all my version of lynx supports. I have to say (without wanting to start a Frame War) that frames greatly reduce the amount of

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-06 Thread DaZZa
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: then when selecting a link only the document needs to be updated, speeding up loading and decreasing the traffic generated. Fantastic. Couldn't agree more. Now explain in words of two syllables or less how the ^%$ you render frames

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-06 Thread Rick Welykochy
Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 09:42:31AM +1000, DaZZa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [snip] The info is in the ad. Note that seek.com.au requires frames, so viewing it through lynx won't work - which sucks a bit, but such is life. Arent frames part of the HTML

frames (was: Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement)

2001-06-06 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Jobst Schmalenbach said: On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 09:42:31AM +1000, DaZZa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [snip] The info is in the ad. Note that seek.com.au requires frames, so viewing it through lynx won't work - which sucks a bit, but such is life. Arent frames part

Re: frames (was: Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement)

2001-06-06 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Jamie Wilkinson Arent frames part of the HTML standard? Just because they're part of a standard doesn't mean they don't SUCK. Nor does it mean they won't be taken out. Forcibly. Hurrah! [ We are the Space Robots. We are here to protect you from the Terrible Secret of Frames. ] -

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-06 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Jon Biddell said: TANSTAAFL. :-) Let's see how many get THIS one ..:-) There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch. - Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to using Microsoft products for mission-critical

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-05 Thread Terry Collins
DaZZa wrote: It's specifically a Linux job, and the money offered isn't _too_ bad. Anyone who wants to bitch about it can bite me - flames will go to /dev/null. That includes you, Terry. Well, I'm posting the reasons why I think it is inappropriate for posting to Slug. 1 - It doesn't

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-05 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 09:42:31AM +1000, DaZZa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [snip] The info is in the ad. Note that seek.com.au requires frames, so viewing it through lynx won't work - which sucks a bit, but such is life. Arent frames part of the HTML standard? jhs -- Be gentle with the

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-05 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 10:41:36AM +1000, DaZZa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: [snip] Not part of HTML 1.0 AFAIK, which is all my version of lynx supports. I have to say (without wanting to start a Frame War) that frames greatly reduce the amount of

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-05 Thread enterfornone
I have to say (without wanting to start a Frame War) that frames greatly reduce the amount of traffic generated. If you have three frames: * main menu * sub menu * document then when selecting a link only the document needs to be updated, speeding up loading and decreasing the traffic

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-05 Thread james
Not part of HTML 1.0 AFAIK, AFAIK sounds slightly rude ;) What is it? As always, with anything Linux, YMMV. Yes Mum, More Vanilla? Someone help me out here? Thanks! (TFTAH). Also, IRAYH, and TARAIJMTU. James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More

RE: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-05 Thread Sean Carmody
AFAIK sounds slightly rude ;) What is it? as far as i know As always, with anything Linux, YMMV. your mileage may vary Thanks! (TFTAH). Also, IRAYH, and TARAIJMTU. ? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-05 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 01:26:59PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Not part of HTML 1.0 AFAIK, AFAIK sounds slightly rude ;) What is it? As always, with anything Linux, YMMV. Yes Mum, More Vanilla? Someone help me out here? either