Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread Martin Usher
I don't have a particular fondness for the Vole or its CE "operating system" but it'll probably work just fine since we're not planning to run additional software on the system (are we?). The two processors are almost certainly an ARM to drive the display and whatever Futaba's using in its current

RE: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread targetdrone
-Original Message- From: George Gillburg Subject: Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

[RCSE] Futaba T14 MZ - was: Hype

2004-12-09 Thread Jimmy Andrews
There's much more info here: http://www.jason.net/heli/helimain.htm There is also a discussion group for it: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Futaba14MZ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe a

Re: [RCSE] Hype

2004-12-09 Thread Simon Van Leeuwen
The user interface (WIN CE) transfers the raw settings to the non-volatile memory of the flight control uprocessor, that's it. WIN CE has replaced the non-descript user interface most folks are accustomed to in any modern uprocessor based radio systems we utilize today. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrot

[RCSE] Hype

2004-12-09 Thread eholt
Question about the two processors. One for the flight controll? One with the Windows CE? If the windows goes down (windows will go down sooner or later), Then your flight processor looses the other programs and mixes and leaves you hangin? Crashing? Better be quick. What do YOU Do? What do YOU Do.

Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread George Gillburg
Lex Mierop wrote: Futaba has gone off the deep end. Check it out here: http://www.14mz.com Windows CE with touch screen input. Li-ion battery and a radio that uses consumer grade flash memory cards. It does voice recognition for up to 24 commands. (Say "I ain't got it" and it can automagically go

[RCSE] Where is the WinchDoctor?

2004-12-09 Thread winchdoc
Where is the WinchDoctor?   a. abducted by aliens again. b. computer P.M.S. c. promotion at work  leaves no leftover time d. all of the above   Hey folks, I'm not really trying to ignore anyone. My day job has been pretty hectic as I have new duties and I've been busy getting things spun up. I w

Re: [RCSE] Radio Costs

2004-12-09 Thread Chuck Anderson
At 06:42 PM 12/9/2004, you wrote: I was just sitting here thinking that it was just under 30 years ago that I worked at Pro-Line building transmitters. We had the first dual rates. You cold get one and we even let you pick where you wanted the switch. Still did not have servo reversing then, but oh

Re: [RCSE] Radio Costs

2004-12-09 Thread Mrmaseratiman
Hey Bill, I still have one of those Custom Comp 7 TX's and in near perfect shape. Serial # 011682. And I am the original owner.   Regards, Dave Corven

Re: [RCSE] Radio Costs

2004-12-09 Thread Brian Chan
At 4:42 PM -0800 12/9/04, Bill Malvey wrote: The new Futaba 14MZ would have been $617 in 1975. But back in 1975, you do not have to worry about MicroSoft...or Windoh Brian RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] P

Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread Charles Frey
And how about that battery life... "providing nearly 3 hours of flight time." -charles RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format wi

[RCSE] Radio Costs

2004-12-09 Thread Bill Malvey
I was just sitting here thinking that it was just under 30 years ago that I worked at Pro-Line building transmitters. We had the first dual rates. You cold get one and we even let you pick where you wanted the switch. Still did not have servo reversing then, but oh those sticks!! In 1975 we got $7

Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread Dan Kitching
Yes, and after you read the realtime Futaba advertising, it will be followed by... Fresh young teens want you now, click here to find out more and still more Viagra, percodan, cialis, delivered to your door. Discount pharmacy. I can see the warning screen now :) "Your transmitter has just re

Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread jared
> >> > The 14MZ probably has wireless comm, it will send a signal to Futaba > while you are in trouble. I can see the warning screen now :) "Your transmitter has just recovered from a serious error. To send a copy of this error report to Futaba and Microsoft click O.K." Jared Quoting Brian C

Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread Brian Chan
At 5:56 PM -0500 12/9/04, Michael Lachowski wrote: For the extra $$ over a regular radio, you can go to Fry's and get a nice laptop instead. Where is the cell phone function so you can call Futaba for user support at the field? Brian Chan wrote: Futaba has gone off the deep end. Check it out h

Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread Michael Lachowski
For the extra $$ over a regular radio, you can go to Fry's and get a nice laptop instead. Where is the cell phone function so you can call Futaba for user support at the field? Brian Chan wrote: Futaba has gone off the deep end. Check it out here: http://www.14mz.com I just can't wait to get

Re: [RCSE] Cool video

2004-12-09 Thread Dave
Holy Merde !! Dave Morgan Auckland New Zealand - Original Message - From: "Jim Deck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 3:58 AM Subject: [RCSE] Cool video >

[RCSE] Why I will not buy from Futaba

2004-12-09 Thread Anker Berg-Sonne
A short tale explaining why I will not buy Futaba gear, no matter how good it is.   In the early 90’s Futaba introduced what looked like a fabulous value, a five-channel PCM radio that cost close to $250. I bought two, and another member of our club bought three. Everything was fine until

Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread Paul Emerson
Just complexity on top of the same functionality? This is new era - from Jeff Raskin, creator of the Macintosh computer and master of Humane [Human] interface devices: http://humane.sourceforge.net/published/transmitter.html On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 09:38:05 -0800, Lex Mierop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread strotherbj
thank you !!   --Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold   -- Original message -- > Yeah, a good timer will do that. > > The biggest problem with the new brand F radio is that it comes from Futaba. > I'll support them when they

[RCSE] From Jo Grini's site, Volz Digital test results

2004-12-09 Thread GordySoar
Hi, For those interested : Jo Grini did some tests on the new Micro Maxx Digital Xps, the first link is his results, and the second is a visual side by side some other digitals of similar size. Gordy     http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/volz/index.htm (spec tests)   http://www.workflow.as/jogri

Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread AMA3655
Yeah, a good timer will do that. The biggest problem with the new brand F radio is that it comes from Futaba. I'll support them when they support RC soaring. happy trails -- RobG At 01:57 PM 12/9/2004, Sheldon - YNT uDesign wrote: >Or >maybe you're buyin' off your timers with brews??? Which

RE: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread Brian Chan
At 2:05 PM -0600 12/9/04, James V. Bacus wrote: At 01:57 PM 12/9/2004, Sheldon - YNT uDesign wrote: Or maybe you're buyin' off your timers with brews??? Which is it???...Time to come clean Dude!!! My timers punch hard, verbally abuse me, scream, yell and generally scare me into the correct areas

RE: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread James V. Bacus
At 01:57 PM 12/9/2004, Sheldon - YNT uDesign wrote: Or maybe you're buyin' off your timers with brews??? Which is it???...Time to come clean Dude!!! My timers punch hard, verbally abuse me, scream, yell and generally scare me into the correct areas of the sky! 8-) Jim Downers Grove, IL Member o

RE: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread Sheldon - YNT uDesign
Then how could you possibly be winning when you've been using a radio that "is not really a glider radio"??? Huh??? Must be cheatin' or sumpthin'...Or maybe you're buyin' off your timers with brews??? Which is it???...Time to come clean Dude!!! -Original Message- From: James V. Bacus [mai

Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread Michael Neverdosky
There is very little chance that I would choose to fly anything using M$ software. Hm, "Blue Screen of Crash" michael N6CHV Lex Mierop wrote: Futaba has gone off the deep end. Check it out here: http://www.14mz.com Windows CE with touch screen input. Li-ion battery and a radio that uses consumer

Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread Brian Chan
Futaba has gone off the deep end. Check it out here: http://www.14mz.com I just can't wait to get my hand on one for my RES! Since it has the computer stuff in it, I wonder if I can get one from Dell or Fry's!! And the price should drop like a rock in 6 months if it follows the current trend of

Re: [RCSE] Futaba 14x VRS IPOD,,,New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread James V. Bacus
I didn't say anything negative about the Futaba, and I have no need to hijack a thread like you are now and commonly do...  I was just commenting on the thread about something I happen to know about. I have no need or reason to sell my 10x either... I am not about to comment on the Futaba until

Re: [RCSE] Futaba 14MZ

2004-12-09 Thread Andrew E. Mileski
Andrew E. Mileski wrote: An interesting looking radio ... http://www.14mz.com/ Oops. Sorry. Looks like my incoming list mail was delayed. Didn't know it was already the hot topic of the day when I posted. -- Andrew E. Mileski RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe"

[RCSE] Futaba 14MZ

2004-12-09 Thread Andrew E. Mileski
An interesting looking radio ... http://www.14mz.com/ -- Andrew E. Mileski RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned

Re: [RCSE] Futaba 14x VRS IPOD,,,New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread Jim Prouty
I can see it now - theme to Top Gun playing on the "radio" while doing combat on the slope! :) Jim RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only

[RCSE] Futaba 14x VRS IPOD,,,New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread GordySoar
Saying that is like saying a MPX 4000 is not a glider radio.  These are not template based programmed radios, so you have to roll you own mixes.  No biggie for some of us, others may want a 9303.The 10x is a fine radio for our application, solid as a rock, and has been very successful for me

Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread James V. Bacus
Saying that is like saying a MPX 4000 is not a glider radio. These are not template based programmed radios, so you have to roll you own mixes. No biggie for some of us, others may want a 9303. The 10x is a fine radio for our application, solid as a rock, and has been very successful for me.

Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread Bill Malvey
On 12/9/04 10:50 James V. Bacus wrote: > Darn it, I have been using a 10x for years now and those JR guys never told > me that. 8-) Didn't say it couldn't do it, just saying they really did not intend for it to do it. Otherwise they would have made it easier to do it.!! ~~~ Bill Ma

Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread James V. Bacus
Darn it, I have been using a 10x for years now and those JR guys never told me that. 8-) At 12:08 PM 12/9/2004, Bill Malvey wrote: Given that the 10X is a dedicated airplane or helicopter radio and does NOT have glider programming in it (I know it can be programmed for gliders, but even JR says

[RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread GordySoar
If they're really Duel processors   If they are 'duel' processors, it will really be great for foamie combat!   I can't wait to get one for my WindRider Bat DS ship.  Maybe I'll be able to use it for combat then instead of just ripping the backside in Frankfort (no not Germany :-)   Gordy Ra

RE: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread Howard Mark
If they're really Duel processors - perhaps they are really for "fight control"? -Original Message- From: Russ Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 11:06 AM To: RCSE Subject: Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype? If you read the fine print on the web page under "Du

Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread Bill Malvey
I wondered how this would take to show up here. This has been discussed on other lists and forums for a couple of months now. Let me make some comments. First, Windows CE ONLY runs the GUI and does NOT run the actual flight processor. That is a propriety Futaba processor, just like what is in use

Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread Russ Young
Also from the web site: a.. The 14MZ will have dual internal processors! One uses the Windows CE operating system and functions as the brain for the 14MZs operating, communications, and programming functions. The other is a Custom Futaba Processor that will manage all of its flying functions.

Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread Russ Young
If you read the fine print on the web page under "Duel Internal Processors" - the Futaba processor deals with "flight control" functions, and "setup and programming" is handled by CE - Original Message - From: "brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, Decembe

Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread brian
Isn't WinCE related to the OS that runs in current Pocket PC's? I hope they've got all the bugs worked out on that one, my Pocket PC crashes, freezes, resets, and does all sorts of nasty things. I'd hate to see the "blue screen of death" on my TX while flying a $1000 glider. .. brian r. [EMAIL P

Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread Jim Prouty
I wonder what you do when the infamous blue screen of death appears on the display? :-p At 12:38 PM 12/9/2004, Lex Mierop wrote: Futaba has gone off the deep end. Check it out here: http://www.14mz.com Windows CE with touch screen input. Li-ion battery and a radio that uses consumer grade flash

Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread Darwin N. Barrie
This is going to be a fantastic radio. I've got one coming and hope for a January deliver. Darwin N. Barrie Team Futaba - Original Message - From: "Lex Mierop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 10:38 AM Subject: [RCSE] New era or just hype? >

[RCSE] New era or just hype?

2004-12-09 Thread Lex Mierop
Futaba has gone off the deep end. Check it out here: http://www.14mz.com Windows CE with touch screen input. Li-ion battery and a radio that uses consumer grade flash memory cards. It does voice recognition for up to 24 commands. (Say "I ain't got it" and it can automagically go into full crow m

[RCSE] Cool video

2004-12-09 Thread Jim Deck
Here's a pretty neat clip from an almost outrageous air race in Budapest. It's a pretty good sized clip. http://home.scarlet.be/~mirhaus/airrace.wmv Enjoy, Jim Deck PS: While Red Bull was involved somehow, it doesn't say whether the pilots consumed any before flying this co

[RCSE] Wait and Wail.... For Sale

2004-12-09 Thread GordySoar
1.  ELV Vario Altimeter - Made famous by Gordy, reads visually altitude,gives vario function audibly, and has battery voltage measurement.  Theairborne unit is 25g and would fit in most ships, it is about 3/8"x1 1/4"x11/2".  Comes with the airborne transmitter unit, reciever with visual read

Fw: [RCSE] For Sale

2004-12-09 Thread Marc Gellart
ELV Vario sold, Don Richmond was fast on the draw. Eclipse is still available. Marc RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with

Re: [RCSE] Inexpensive Hotliner?

2004-12-09 Thread Jim Prouty
Hi All, Sorry for the delay in replying. Up to my ()*&$# in alligators! In answer to the following questions: 1. What's your budget? I'd like to keep the whole thing under $500 but also want a setup that will last. Prefer all composite over wood since I hope to take the plane on the road when

[RCSE] Looking for Spirit Booklet

2004-12-09 Thread Robert Rondeau
Hi again, Got up this am (8 hours after posting my appeal for a Spirit booklet) to find several offers in my mailbox. I will take Ed Jett's advice and download it from the G.P. site (I didn't think to check there-duh). Thanks for the greayt response -(Aah the power of the net!). Bob R RCSE-Lis

RE: [RCSE] looking for Spirit Instruction Booklet

2004-12-09 Thread Douglas, Brent
Did you check the greatplanes website? I found the Spirit Elite manual there Actually, here's a link, the 2M kit is there: http://www.greatplanes.com/parts/index.html Good luck! Brent RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [

Re: [RCSE] Who are Frank, Bob, and Jack

2004-12-09 Thread Jon Stone
Ahhh Frank     Boy I miss him.  Such fond memories.  He could stir up the exchange at will.  Almost as good as Lucas.     - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chuck Anderson ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 6:23 AM Subject: Re: [R

[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #4778

2004-12-09 Thread Tailnicht
Here's more Great Planes manuals than you'll ever want to read: http://www.greatplanes.com/parts/index.html Enjoy! Brian Molloy In a message dated 12/9/2004 12:17:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Soaring) writes: >Soaring                        Thu, 9 Dec 2004          Volume

[RCSE] For Sale

2004-12-09 Thread Marc Gellart
A couple of rare finds from the soaring closet. 1. ELV Vario Altimeter - Made famous by Gordy, reads visually altitude, gives vario function audibly, and has battery voltage measurement. The airborne unit is 25g and would fit in most ships, it is about 3/8"x1 1/4"x1 1/2". Comes with the airborn

[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #4778

2004-12-09 Thread Ed Anderson
You can download it here: http://www.greatplanes.com/parts/index.html Ed Anderson aeajr on the forums Long Island Silent Flyers www.lisf.org - Original Message - From: "Soaring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 12:17 AM Subject: Soaring V1 #4