Yep. But my favorite is still the Lucas challenge to Joe.
Bill Swingle
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Lets not forget
OK, I understand the motives for shutting RCSE down. 10 years is a long
stretch in internet lingo.
Thanks to Mike for all his efforts in opperating it.
So, the burning question now is Where shall we go? Seriously, I not savy on
what's out there.
(and let's not tell Gordy)
Bill Swingle
Amen brother. I heard about several great airplanes through RCSE. One of which
is my all time favorite. Thank you John Roe for your input there.
It was a great resource!
Bill Swingle
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I learned a lot over the years through RCSE, Great job Mike. I will miss
it.
Hold on there!
Carcinogenic, mutanogenic, poisonous!
So, should I be worrying about the times (as a kid) that I used acetone as a
hand cleaner to remove things like grease and fiberglass resin? Concerned
modelers want to know. Well this one at least.
Bill Swingle
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is way
too cheap for limits.
...so I can back things up on the computer or share with friends.
My 3030 does this.
ergonomics
Ya get used to the pizza box quickly.
Not bad for a 10yr old transmitter.
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Yes, hand launch is fantastic.
When I was healthy I learned a tremendous amount from just a silly little plane
called the Bob. A genius HL design that cost under a hundred bucks. Great
plane. Great times. Even learned the Joe Wurts' third vector method when I was
hand launching.
Bill Swingle
Fly a 2-Meter, RES plane... Then you can get 3 days of flying in... :-)
So are you saying he should fly a gentle lady?
Which is always a good choice, IMO.
Bill Swingle
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and as a
result I later got to fly at a somewhat lesser known site with the world
champ himself.
I wouldn't know Jack from Adam. He may be a great guy. Or he may not. I
don't know. But I suspect he'll make good roomie.
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40 AMPS!
...seem to like being abused
Oh my. How far we've come! By the way, I like the term Zip Wire.
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Rich,
5.5 to 7 ounces flying weight
REALLY???
Man, HLG technology has REALLY come a long ways!
Bill Swingle
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These were the last generation before the Discus hand launch.
59 span 281 sq. in 5.5 to 7 ounces flying weight
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I suggest the hinge tape sold by Don Richmond. It's good stuff, quite strong
and adhesive.
I suspect it's an off the shelf product. But I've not found it anywhere
else. I can't find his email but Don is on this list. Perhaps he'll contact
you.
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-Isn't 2.4Ghz very much line of sight?
-And poor at penetrating obsticles?
Thus, isn't it reasonable to say that a home or structure or earth topology
will block much of a 2.4 signal?
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Yes, if your behind a home or structure or earth topology you have larger
problems
My point was that we may not experience much difficulty from the other
non-flying users of 2.4 because there are beneficial limitations provided by
the multitude of various obsticles.
Bill Swingle
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Thanks for your input. It makes sense and I can't argue with any of your
points.
So 2.4 is unmonitored and open to ANYONE, as long as they play by the
rules?? Because, the technology is by definition immune to frequency
conflicts.
When you think about it, this sounds almost magical.
Bill
are there any plans for 2.4 and the MPX 4000,
Yeah! Will the pizza Box get a 2.4 Module?
Pretty please. Anybody?
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So now that 2.4 Ghz is emerging in force; how long will we continue to have
FCC approved access to the 72MHz band?
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Quiet Al!
Let them go! We'll be better off with out them. Well, that is until we join
them.
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Indeed, history is a wonderfull thing.
But don't forget one additional fact. Which is, men flew TOGETHER and had
FUN and FELLOWSHIP.
Bravo gentlemen. I'm envious.
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Gosh, maybe I'm just being ignorant here, but wouldn't the case work with
other normally sized Tx's?
Thus, I wonder why aren't you keeping it?
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certain of your connection/joint.
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I want to put one of my DLG's antenna down the wing
Test
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One point though. Caffeine is also a diuretic. Just a thought...
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Chip,
We've discussed dual battery packs before. For Nicad's and NiMH's it's a
reasonable approach. Though it was heatedly debated.
But with Lithium?? Dude, I don't know. I'd not be too cavalier with them.
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. The weather at Banos is hard to predict this
time of
year! So include an electric and an HLG along with your combat planes.
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OK, hypothetically here.
Say I'm at the slope but my Lithium charger uses only 120V AC.
So, if I wanted to be reckless (go with me here), what can be done with a
Nicad charger and how?
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Dang, looks real good!
But it'll take lots of time to motivate me into spending the money to switch
systems.
Bill Swingle
Janesville, CA
Don't forget the overnight BASH this weekend at Banos!
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Excellent observation. How many of us have flow behind an obstruction?
Intentionally or not it happens!
Wow, this puts it into perspective for me.
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Cal Posthuma
LSF VV
I know of no one else who can call himself an LSF X. (I wonder how many
there are)
Friends, this means something to me. Does it mean anything to you? Lets stop
arguing over LSF.
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You guys don't have to believe me...
Daryl, I believe. Was not trying to say otherwise.
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Daryl says 8500'. Several guys have said 4500-5000'. OK, fine. Might as well
be 100K to me.
Well guys we're getting older and I'm seeing the decline in eye sight
myself.
How about you folks?
Personally, I can't stand flying when I'm uncomfortable. Too stressful.
Bill Swingle
Janesville, CA
span combat wing is mighty small at a 1000'. I envy you guys (you know
who you are) who can scape the stratosphere.
Personally I'd rather fly the plane 50' in front of me than hundreds of feet
above me.
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Hobby Shack's Spirit of 76. Twice.
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OK guys let's make a note of this day.
Daryl needs a 2M. Wow, this is a monumentous event that I never thought
I'd ever see.
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The number I have maybe out of date but here's what I have: 928-474-2528
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No idea why it didn't cure. But, when the silicon dies cure it emits an acid
as part of the process. These acid fumes eat away copper.
I found this out when I mounted a servo with silicon and it soon there after
died in flight and the plane crashed.
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Gardnerville is in Nevada. Roughly 125 miles to the SSE.
Bill Swingle
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Forwarding this from a Friend up in Gardnerville, CA/NV?
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I was just given a Gamebird RC/Pilot simulator by Fujitisu/Siemens.
Anyone familiar with it?
It's got a faux transmitter but uses an unusual connector that I've not seen
before. I'm thinking it's good for nothing but the trash. Anynone got a
reason why I should keep it?
Bill Swingle
Seems like 2M is getting popular again.
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Your logic sounds quite reasonable for your planform.
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Soaring Season is finally upon us.
It is? Where? I haven't seen it yet. I got a foot of snow yesterday!
I'm starting think my calendar is broken.
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who remembers The Old Buzzard video and Dave Thornberg?
I do, I do. I used to have that video. Don't know if I could locate it now
though.
It's a good introduction to thermalling. No idea where mine went.
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I just heard that the Oso De Oro city park in Fresno, CA doesn't allow park
flyers. What's up with that?
Further, the Oso De Oro is tiny! Yet it's manned by a parks a rec employee!
What's happened in Fresno? Did someone get hurt or a lawsuit filed? Is this
a city wide policy?
Bill Swingle
In Turlock!!!
Turlock is the most generic anytown USA. Hard to imagine.
Next they'll make it a law in Visalia!
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Nope. Dave's been out of the business. For many years now.
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Does anyone have one of Sal's Pleaser slow flyers?
A friend has one and wants to change over to lithium. What pack would you
recommend?
Also, he wouldn't mind changing the motor/gearbox/prop. Any recommendations
for the whole power pack?
Thanks,
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Speaking of DAW: Is Ed stocking the TG-3?
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Does anyone have one of Sal's Pleaser slow flyers?
A friend has one and wants to change over to lithium. What pack would you
recommend?
Also, he wouldn't mind changing the motor/gearbox/prop. Any recommendations
for the whole power pack?
Thanks,
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Janesville, CA
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Airtronics sells TX crystals??
This news to me. It used to be their policy to absolutely NOT sell TX
crystals.
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On Friday the 17th, my buddy Steve told me I may just ride my motorcycle to
the BASH. I looked out side, saw it was snowing at my place in the
Sierras, as it had been all day, and told him he was nuts but wished him
luck regardless. Surely it had to be too cold even in the central valley.
. :-)
Ballet, Formation, stupid pilot tricks, pass the transmitter,
gentleman's combat. It'll be a blast as long as the wind blows.
It'll Start whenever guys show up which is historically noon.
Bill Swingle
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p.s. Thanks again to Mr. Ed Whittenburg and the NorCal Slopers. They were
A PCM signal is no better than PPM. The only benefit would have been if the
PCM Rx went into fail safe. Obviously could have been quite helpful. If it
did go into failsafe.
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Dumping an Icon. Interesting concept.
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Does anyone?
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Each will work fine for the TX.
How will you charge it?
Do you tend to abbuse your batteries?
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What Doug said. :-)
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, be Personable to all AND do so in a public place.
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will you have gained?
In light of the above, I suggest: Use a new battery and new wires and
connectors. Test your battery regularly. REPLACE your battery regularly,
approximately once every two years. If it's a VERY expensive plane or if
you're a worrier do it every year.
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comfortable with.
Daryl, mentioned switch failure but since it doesn't cycle during flight I
didn't consider it significant. All I've had fail did so on the ground while
I cycled them. Naturally, it's tough to disagree with Daryl given his
credentials. I don't do so lightly.
Bill Swingle
The ideas claiming a reasonably easy removal are true. However a disclaimer
is needed.
A glue joint can be done well or poorly. Those advocating epoxy are actually
advocating particular methods that will achieve glue joints which are
marginal (for lack of a better word). Done right they work
I am curious. Does control line truly have a big enough following to justify
all the press it does get?
I'm doubtful.
Personally I consider it so basic and elementary that it's boring. Why do
people fiddle about with it? Of course I feel the same about glow power as
well. :-)
Bill Swingle
the landing gear mod.
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what are you guys doing to destroy your servos?
Nothing. The problem for me was crappy building. Dunce cap was on brain was
not.
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I have to say the lift distribution and lift coefficient curves look nearly
perfect. Almost too good.
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. I chose poorly and the plane has payed the price.
Currently I'm a big advocate of the frames.
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Interesting idea Steve. I think I like it. However, SS may require more
bandwidth than is available on 70ish MHz. Don't know... (hey Simon?)
Besides that it would be a radical change and difficult to force down their
throats. ;-)
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, We'd like to offer our most sincere thanks to Mr. Ed Whittenburg and
the NorCal Slopers. They were kind enough relinquish this weekend and avoid
any scheduling conflicts. Hats off to those glass guys!
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A bit of wisdom from Joe Galletti in 1998:
A quick way to improve slop between the servo output shaft and the bearing
is to use a servo horn retaining screw that is a little larger than the
standard screw. This expands the output shaft and takes away the slop.
Bill Swingle
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Thank you very much for sharing this, Gordy!
Check it out guys. This platform is VERY impressive in it's capabilities.
But so far only for surface use... They claim to be working on aircraft
equipment.
Good goin' Karlton.
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if I had started with somehting that included ailerons.
Whoa, whoa! Now just hold up there buddy. Yer treadin' on sacred ground
here. ;-)
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Great guys. Now I have to buy one of the silly things.
On the good side though my local town town has essentially ONE store,
WalMart. If they don't have one can avoid this trap, and save 30$.
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The aero ace is a GREAT product!
RCSE
. Generally speaking
it's ~15 to 50%. Depending upon the unit chosen and the installation.
Do you care? Even more difficult to answer. Many opinions on this.
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I appreciate your candor.
But, I said aftermarket.
If it's no shorter than stock what's the attraction?
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Thanks for the agreement Simon.
I stand by what I've said many times: If it's shorter, it's worser.
I've yet to see an exception, including the JR base loaded unit.
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Easy to own both and change antennae back and forth as needed.
Absolutely! I carry THREE different types in my TX box.
Al was right. Antenna wars!
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After touting the ability to backup my transmitter settups, I realized the
guy who sold me the cable left the business.
Is anyone selling these cables now?
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I just heard from the Horizon Hobbies Product Support Team. They have no
plans to provide a SS module for the 3030.
Hey Ernie, any possibilty that a unit for another brand TX would work for
MPX?
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super cool! I
hope everyone switches to it! Then I'll have the 72mhz band all to myself.
Hey JR - Please make a spread spectrum module for my MULTIPLEX transmitter!
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done it. I've even replaced my PC since last
doing it. Luckily, it's dead simple and worked just like it's supposed to.
Now I'm all backed-up again.
Nice when a thread can provide a tangible benefit. Remember to regularly
back up your setups.
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technique or #3. The location where
you fly.
I doubt it could be #3 but that's easy to rule out. #2 is possible but
fairly easily checked. #1 seems fairly probable and is more difficult to
check. Personally, I'd get the TX checked out first.
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All this talk about aerotowing has me intrigued. I've never done it but it
seems to me that it'd be a most enjoyable way to launch.
What are the general rules of thumb regarding methods, setup and behavior?
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Naturally, the Derstine page roughly titled
What are the procedures for towing and what must the tow pilot and
sailplane pilot do during the tow?
Interests me the most. Any one have a link to something similar?
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Beats lugging a winch for sure. But I've found that the most enjoyable part
of flying is the interaction with other pilots. Hence my interest in the
towing.
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will be critical to achieving the
performance he desires. A micro plane is harder to build well.
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Ah yes, the Swyft. Haven't tried one but it looks good.
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And yet another one that I forgot:
The DAW 1-26 60 is quite good. It's sold by Ed Berris
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will just
mean more places to trip over my own feet.
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Club, meeting...
You guys are killin' me. There is now a grand total of ONE glider pilot in
my area. And I'm him.
Heck I have meetings all the time. With 100% attendance. Woohoo!
But the fellowship leave much to be desired.
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I was wondering about range also.
But the radio looks fantastic. And reasonably priced too!
And while there's little justification for an estabilished pilot with
multiple transmitters to buy one; if anyone does please give us a FULL
report
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place, excluding steel and
concrete, is sitting about 10 feet away from the DS pilot.
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You know I've heard of this Johnny Berlin guy a whole lot on this list.
In fact I've seen only positive stuff ; frankly sounds like a great guy
so... What is his web site? And what is his business called? Let's send
enough business his way that he can stay in the business.
Bill Swingle
a shop says something is fine?
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It sounds to me like the nerf type stuff. Mark Mech knows about this stuff.
I seem to rememeber him saying it's a poly ethelyne compound or something
like that. Help us out here, Mark.
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I seem to recall that he
used some sort of cable band saw to cut it. I got the impression that
this
was a foam that you did not want to cut with a hot wire. Perhaps the
fumes
were the issue.
Yep, I remember that too. It was said that the fumes were toxic.
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have become totally disgusted in their
service and attitude.
How sad. This is surprising to me. Anyone else experienced this poor
service?
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range
of flyability makes them a wise choice.
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Daryl is flying a plane with only 8.6ounce wing loading!!
Gad, I can't believe it. Daryl likes LONG legged airplanes.
Will the plane range as far as a Daryl plane is supposed to?
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A quarter turn at a time! Ouch!
Course when you don't have a choice...
I compliment your patients.
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OK, Here's a probably dumb idea...
Would it be possible to gently heat the outside of the wing skin? Such that
the glue would get soft?
Don't know but may work. Then the glue could be removed piece by piece.
Other wise there's the dental floss sawing method. It's a pain but safe.
Bill Swingle
Good idea. But prudence will still be required. Don't know how fragile the
skin will be.
The dremeling out the servo idea was also interesting.
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