Re: [RCSE] Supras done

2006-01-06 Thread Marta Zavala
@airage.com Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supras done Agreed. I have about 4 hours on mine. One of the best launching models I have ever owned. Jim Monaco estimates that my launch is 80-90 degrees. On one ride I took it out from less than 50 ft( 5

Re: [RCSE] Supras done

2006-01-06 Thread LJolly
Tom, I agree with your comments on the Supras flying qualities. While no airplane is a Silver Bullet, this one is better than anything I have flown before. It reads air unbelievably well, has long legs, good float, and launches, and lands well. TheSupra accelerateseffortlessly from float to

RE: [RCSE] Supras done

2006-01-06 Thread Chuck Anderson
At 09:42 AM 1/5/2006, you wrote: He who launches highest... wins... D Not necessarily. As you get older, you will find that he who launches highest frequently loses sight of his model. Chuck Anderson RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe

Re: [RCSE] Supras done

2006-01-06 Thread Marta Zavala
: [RCSE] Supras done At 09:42 AM 1/5/2006, you wrote: He who launches highest... wins... D Not necessarily. As you get older, you will find that he who launches highest frequently loses sight of his model. Chuck Anderson RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe

Re: [RCSE] Supras done

2006-01-06 Thread Marta Zavala
Ihave heard the only thing better than the molded Supra is a lighter bagged one. Yes or no? Walter - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 4:13 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supras done

Re: [RCSE] Supras done

2006-01-06 Thread TGRESSMAN
I am still 20/15 but the reflexes are starting to go at 59. I have owned and flown most of the F3J birds and just when I think they couldn't get any better the Supra emerges. In the hands of a world class flyer it should do very well at the 2006 Worlds! Tom

RE: [RCSE] Supras done/Icons For Sale

2006-01-06 Thread George Voss
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supras done I am still 20/15 but the reflexes are starting to go at 59. I have owned and flown most of the F3J birds and just when I think they couldn't

Re: [RCSE] Supras done

2006-01-06 Thread LJolly
Walter, I flew Tom Kieslings Bagged F3J version over at Istanbul. WhileI think one flight is to limited to draw conclusions, I can comment that both models have similar characteristics. One thing that is obvious to me is thatI cannot build a wing as accurate as the ones that come from Barry.

Re: [RCSE] Supras done/Icons For Sale

2006-01-06 Thread Charles Eaton
! - Original Message - From: George Voss Cc: soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 8:22 AM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Supras done/Icons For Sale OK, I waited 2+ years to get my new Icons. Now you guys are telling me they aren’t the berries, I want to scream! I

Re: [RCSE] Supras done

2006-01-05 Thread Barry Andersen
On Jan 4, 2006, at 4:44 PM, Mark Drela wrote: To measure the CG: I turn the assembled glider over on its back,  Pardon the potentially dumb question, but why turn the glider, or any glider, on its back for cg measurement.I use the wooden pencil eraser method also.thanksBarry Andersen

Re: [RCSE] Supras done- cg?

2006-01-05 Thread Barry Andersen
On Jan 4, 2006, at 4:44 PM, Mark Drela wrote:To measure the CG: I turn the assembled glider over on its back,  and find the level-balance point by supporting it on a wood-pencil eraser which is slightly rounded. I might add some tape to a wingtip if necessary  to get perfect lateral balance, so

Re: [RCSE] Supras done

2006-01-05 Thread Tom Broeski
AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supras done On Jan 4, 2006, at 4:44 PM, Mark Drela wrote: To measure the CG: I turn the assembled glider over on its back, Pardon the potentially dumb question, but why turn the glider, or any glider, on its back for cg measurement. I use

RE: [RCSE] Supras done

2006-01-05 Thread Daryl Perkins
This is rather far aft hook position which requires special action during launch. On my Evo program the left slider is an elevator (speed) trim with a small gain. For the launch throw I push the slider all the way forward which feeds in a slight amount of down-elevator. Once the glider rotates

RE: [RCSE] Supras done

2006-01-05 Thread James V. Bacus
Bing Bing At 09:42 AM 1/5/2006, Daryl Perkins wrote: But unlike Mark, I'm not willing to give up any of that initial rotation by backing off on the elevator preset. I just use the right stick and fly the model... Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537

RE: [RCSE] Supras done

2006-01-05 Thread Daryl Perkins
Guys, No I don't have a Supra. I was addressing aggressive launch set ups on any model. The tendencies Dr. Drela mentions in his email are not specific to the Supra, but are exhibited in every model I've every owned and set up Daryl style. You guys just haven't been listening for the last 15

Re: [RCSE] Supras done

2006-01-05 Thread LJolly
Daryl. I've got 5 plus hours on the Supra and like the set-up at 3.8". The model rotates and pulls fine even on a low to medium tension launch. The tow hook is real grippy and I have no problem circle towing it on my Hi Start. I think that is with out a flat filed on the hook. The model can

Re: [RCSE] Supras done

2006-01-05 Thread Bill's Email
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daryl. I've got 5 plus hours on the Supra and. You know I wish you guys would let some of the experts handle this one!!! Jeez. The Internet!! Give a guy a keyboard and Internet access and you see what happens!! WEM RCSE-List facilities

Re: [RCSE] Supras done

2006-01-05 Thread TGRESSMAN
Agreed. I have about 4 hours on mine. One of the best launching models I have ever owned. Jim Monaco estimates that my launch is 80-90 degrees. On one ride I took it out from less than 50 ft( 5 degree joiners)to cloud base at 1+mi. out. With a 7-10 mile breeze I easily cruised back in the same

Re: [RCSE] Supras done

2006-01-04 Thread Jay Hunter
I was thinking the same thing Bert...On 1/2/06, Bert Magin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not picking on Maurice or (may the soaring gods forbid) Dr. Drela but couldsomeone explain to me the balancing method and tools used to place a CG to0.5mm accuracy?BertRCSE-List facilities provided by Model

Re: [RCSE] Supras done

2006-01-04 Thread S Meyer
I think Dr Drela may have calculated the battery weight difference between fully charged and completely discharged. Hence he dropped the 100th resolution. Otherwise I think the spec would be down to 0.05 mm. :-) Steven Meyer SOAR, LSF IV At 12:28 PM 1/4/2006, Jay Hunter wrote: I was thinking

Re: [RCSE] Supras done

2006-01-04 Thread Marta Zavala
My initial Cgs are always accurate to say 1/4 to 1/2 a thumb width! Seriously. Walter - Original Message - From: Jay Hunter To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supras done I was thinking

[RCSE] Supras done

2006-01-04 Thread Maurice Podder
Hi All I finished my Kennedy Supra last night. It went together really nice. If the fog clears and it doesn't rain I'll fly it today. I was hoping for 61 to 62 oz but came out a little heavier at 62 3/4 even though I was very careful with glue and install. What really surprised me was I

RE: [RCSE] Supras done

2006-01-04 Thread Mark Drela
could someone explain to me the balancing method and tools used to place a CG to 0.5mm accuracy? To measure the CG: I turn the assembled glider over on its back, and find the level-balance point by supporting it on a wood-pencil eraser which is slightly rounded. I might add some tape to a

[RCSE] Supras done

2006-01-02 Thread mpodder
Hi All I finished my Kennedy Supra last night. It went together really nice. If the fog clears and it doesn't rain I'll fly it today. I was hoping for 61 to 62 oz but came out a little heavier at 62 3/4 even though I was very careful with glue and install. What really surprised me was I

RE: [RCSE] Supras done

2006-01-02 Thread Bert Magin
Not picking on Maurice or (may the soaring gods forbid) Dr. Drela but could someone explain to me the balancing method and tools used to place a CG to 0.5mm accuracy? Bert RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please

[RCSE] Supras done

2006-01-02 Thread mpodder
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supras done I use a Great Planes C.G. Machine. http://www2.gpmd.com/image/g/gpmr2400.jpg The gauges are in inches and millimeters and you could actually put