FW: RE: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-30 Thread Mark Wales
Using a Timex alti watch in my Windsong it recorded 3700' AGL as the highest attained. Mark Soaring Is Life!! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be

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2006-08-30 Thread Dan Ashenfelter
On a somewhat related note, I know some individuals have used a series of variying width white stripes on the lower surface of the wing as a means of estimating altitude. Obviously this method does not work for very high altitudes when the aircraft is at the very limits of one's vision. For us

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2006-08-30 Thread junk1
. Does anyone have a reference, guide or link to information how one might go about utilizing these stripes as an aid? Specifically I am looking for suggested widths and placement of the stripes. On another related note, most hunting scopes (for rifles) have graduated lines on the cross

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2006-08-30 Thread William Kuhlman
The July 1998 issue of RC Soaring Digest described a pattern of chordwise stripes of varying widths (6 to 1/2) which can be used to estimate altitude. We'll make the article available as a downloadable PDF on the RCSD web site, hopefully tomorrow, Thursday. RCSE subscribers and

RE: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-28 Thread Bill Groft
Take a look at the Zlog. http://www.hexpertsystems.com/zlog/index.html It is an altitude data logger for $70. Bill Groft -Original Message- From: Lighthorse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 10:44 AM To: CapnCrunchie; Soaring @ airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] how

RE: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-28 Thread Douglas, Brent
When I got my specs redone, I got into this discussion with my eye doc (that happened to be an ex-flight surgeon / perception researcher at Wright Patt) about flying RC sailplanes, and how I don't see that great at distance. He brought up an example about experiments with the red flag exercises

Re: [RCSE] how high really - lost planes

2006-08-28 Thread Jim Porter
Regis wrote: A few months ago I lost site of a 3M plane in blue sky. There were about five of us watching when it just `blinked out`. Of course I tried to spin down but it never reappeared. A few weeks latter, another flier recounted a similar experience on this list. That got me thinking

RE: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-27 Thread CapnCrunchie
A good source for the Suunto altimeter watch is http://www.rei.com/outlet. Keep your eye out at this site because they often go on sale at the end of the seasons (summer/winter). I picked up mine for about $120'n change... ;^)Blue skies, Doug Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-27 Thread Lighthorse
This would probably be cool to use Suunto e203 http://www.suuntowatches.com/Suunto-Escape.pro -- Ken York County Soaring Lighthorse Team YCS Silence is Golden On 8/27/06, CapnCrunchie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A good source for the Suunto altimeter watch is http://www.rei.com/outlet . Keep

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-27 Thread CapnCrunchie
If money is no object and you want to keep track of your max altitudes without the need of a laptop, one can go to Paragear and get some very ruggedequipment. Check eBay also for the same things. These units are tough and take a LOT of abuse - mine is constantly getting dropped and knocked around

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-27 Thread Jack Dubich
: Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Randall Brust [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] how high really When I talk about being at 8500 ft... the stabs had long since disappeared, the wings were literally

RE: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-27 Thread Brent
I got dropped off at 2,000 feet with a scale ship, all white, on a dark blue sky day... I had trouble seeing it immediately. Took about 2 minutes to (and it hurts to type this) bleed off altitude to get it where I was seeing it again. I've since gotten 'scrip sunglasses in a reddish brown to

RE: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-27 Thread Norman E. Timbs, Jr.
Racing Team) -Original Message- From: Daryl Perkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 10:29 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] how high really You guys don't have to believe me... I had a tough time believing it myself. But one of the arts of cross

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2006-08-27 Thread rsiegel
, AMA 131126 CD Civis Aerius Sum Subject: RE: [RCSE] how high really Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I got dropped off at 2,000 feet with a scale ship, all white, on a dark blue sky day... I had trouble seeing it immediately. Took about 2 minutes to (and it hurts to type this) bleed off

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-27 Thread JoeJanWurts
The highest that I've verified was around 1850 m if I remember correctly, a couple of years ago with a Picolario. I used to put my Casio altimeter watch in my XC, and it had a max altitude, along with max rate of climb and summation of altitude gained.The highest I recorded with the watch

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-26 Thread Raschow
In a message dated 8/25/2006 8:55:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But if anyone out there can give us some research based information on far a human can discern an object like a 3m sailplane I'd sure like to hear it. That would be good! Also, it would be

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-26 Thread CapnCrunchie
When using these altitude watches be sure to read the included instructions very closely. Many of the ~$100 watches take pressure readings periodically only once every 2 mins. (or greater)and are made primarily for hikers/skiers. Suuto makes watches that can be set by user to take readings in

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2006-08-26 Thread JAMES EALY
Hello all:A couple of year ago we went through this debate and I (was taken to task) learned a lot about the new $200 alitimeters. However, we are rarely fly overhead, but at some angle, which means we are much farther away than upHowever, a soarer came on, who had done his math (geometery)

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-26 Thread Randall Brust
JAMES EALY wrote: The biggest problem with the cheapies is that they are not temperature compensated, or VERY poorly so. There are 2 types of temperature dependance with respect to electronic altimeters. The first is how temperature change affects the pressure sensor's ability to convert

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-26 Thread mrmaserati
I have been following this thread with some interest and would to contribute my two undervalued cents. First, SIZE does count. Second, a number of years ago, Don Patterson and I were flying our Jerry Mirlk's designed AstroJeff's on a perfect day for high altitude flying. High clouds and some

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-26 Thread Daryl Perkins
When I talk about being at 8500 ft... the stabs had long since disappeared, the wings were literally toothpicks, and were disappearing as well - the fuse was non-existent. That's how Joe consistently beat the pants off all the CC guys for all those years. The plane was always in the optimum

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2006-08-26 Thread Bill Swingle
Daryl says 8500'. Several guys have said 4500-5000'. OK, fine. Might as well be 100K to me. Well guys we're getting older and I'm seeing the decline in eye sight myself. How about you folks? Personally, I can't stand flying when I'm uncomfortable. Too stressful. Bill Swingle Janesville, CA

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2006-08-26 Thread JAMES EALY
Hi Bill:At 8000 ft a 4 meter planes image could fit in the area of a 1/64 diameter circle (at arms length). I am not sure a hawk could see that. But hey,thats just geometry and optics!!!best to you and our poor eyesight!regards,JimOn Sat, 26 Aug 2006 17:30:46 -0700 Bill Swingle wrote:Daryl says

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2006-08-26 Thread Mark Howard
Subject: Re: [RCSE] how high really When using these altitude watches be sure to read the included instructions very closely. Many of the ~$100 watches take pressure readings periodically only once every 2 mins. (or greater) and are made primarily for hikers/skiers. Suuto makes watches that can

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2006-08-26 Thread AMA3655
] how high really Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I talk about being at 8500 ft... the stabs had long since disappeared, the wings were literally toothpicks, and were disappearing as well - the fuse was non-existent. That's how Joe consistently beat the pants off all the CC guys for all

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-26 Thread James V. Bacus
I asked permission from the CD during our last contest for orbital re-entry...;-) At 10:47 PM 8/26/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as how high can you get? You can get a LOT higher than anybody would believe. It's a Zen Thing that no instrumentation will ever capture. If you can

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-26 Thread Daryl Perkins
You guys don't have to believe me... I had a tough time believing it myself. But one of the arts of cross country flying is keeping the model in the correct location in relation to the vehicle - virtually directly overhead. The reason for this is to maintain visual. I've seen the guys in Muncie

[RCSE] how high really

2006-08-25 Thread Robert Samuels
I'm now a believer. I believe that people believe what they are telling us. But these distances certainly far exceed my weak vision. I'm not an expert at anything much less how far one can see an object. But if anyone out there can give us some research based information on far a human can

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2006-08-25 Thread Dan
This will be tough to do as Superman has long passed awayDan Robert Samuels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm now a believer. I believe that people believe what they are telling us. But these distances certainly far exceed my weak vision.I'm not an expert at anything much less how far one can see

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2006-08-25 Thread tony estep
From: Robert Samuels [EMAIL PROTECTED] if anyone out there can give us some research based information on far a human can discern an object like a 3m sailplane I'd sure like to hear it. == Well, it depends on lighting and contrast. For resolving front-lit objects