Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] profit = dividends?

2003-02-20 Thread Dr. Bruce R. McFarling
At 08:39 PM 19/02/03 -0500, you wrote: why do you assume that the benefits don't accrue to the owners of the group b payment instantly? In fact, in acrual accounting, all payments are identified with the period in which they are earned. Theoretically, there is no lag. The owners of the group

RE: [SOCIAL CREDIT] Income and profits

2003-02-18 Thread Dr. Bruce R. McFarling
At 04:11 PM 18/02/03 +1000, you wrote: Can anyone explain to me how profits can be distributed as income before a sale is made (price is met)? If there is insufficient purchasing power to provide effective demand, i.e. meet the prices generated in the same period of production which price

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] Social Credit reasoning versus General Theoryreasoning

2003-02-18 Thread Dr. Bruce R. McFarling
At 02:46 PM 18/02/03 +1000, Victor Bridger wrote: Dr. Bruce R. McFarling says further: Keynes argues that the income generated by effective demand is equal to that effective demand, but that only a portion of income finances effective demand, so that the shortfall that must be made up comes

[SOCIAL CREDIT] profit = dividends?

2003-02-18 Thread Dr. Bruce R. McFarling
This points to the difference between the Douglas and Keynes approaches to analysis. Douglas aggregates salaries, wages and dividends. Keynes aggregates salaries, wages and profits. Its not either or, is it? So-called Earned Income, which simply means income as the liabilities of firms,

RE: [SOCIAL CREDIT] michaellane

2003-02-15 Thread Dr. Bruce R. McFarling
At 03:41 PM 14/02/03 +, Wally Klinck wrote: In response to recent commentary and debate: The objective is to ensure that these are always equated and that the capacity to produce is never artificially restricted by a lack of money. This fits with what I have read in _Social Credit_ so far.

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] Social Credit and Christian Philosophy/Policy

2003-02-15 Thread Dr. Bruce R. McFarling
At 10:48 AM 14/02/03 -0700, you wrote: Wally says that Social Credit is a Christian principle put into practical theory for the implementation into society. This may or may not be true and is possibly more a matter of perspective. My contention is that because of the overt connection to

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] Some questioning

2003-02-15 Thread Dr. Bruce R. McFarling
At 07:25 PM 15/02/03 +0200, Jessop Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Can it be that 'one size fits all?' The situation in South Africa (let alone Zimbabwe) seems vastly different than America, Canada, England, Australia. Can Social Credit be set out in a 'system' that satisfies all? If its

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] Various postings

2003-01-31 Thread Dr. Bruce R. McFarling
Question:- Is there a defined or optimum relationship between total cash in circulation (including held by banks) and total issued credit? There is no defined relationship ... banks tinker with the ratio all the time as they balance liquidity requirements, reserve requirements, and costs of

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] michaellane

2003-01-31 Thread Dr. Bruce R. McFarling
At 11:29 AM 31/01/03 -0500, Michael Lane wrote: Douglas says, Falling prices, by themselves, are the most perfect method of passing improvement of process on to consumers Note the potential appeal for a green Zero Material Growth economy to have positive economic growth reflected in stable

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] Various postings

2003-01-31 Thread Dr. Bruce R. McFarling
At 08:57 AM 1/02/03 +1000, you wrote: Victor Bridger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VB Response. I cannot agree. I have made a very simple explanation. The quantity of money is $10. It is when you assume a fixed quantity of money at hand that have an example that only applies to a fixed income per

RE: [SOCIAL CREDIT] Various postings

2003-01-30 Thread Dr. Bruce R. McFarling
This posting raises several points that may help make clearer where Keynes system and Douglas's system both differ from mainstream economic theory, Keynesian or otherwise. The two are far more closely related than it may seem if one takes the so-called Keynesian analysis of Samuelson and