Re: [Soekris] Debian install on 4801, eth0 won't work.

2010-02-28 Thread Philip
I have run x-apps and even entire desktops on some very low power PCs before with Debian before. You don't need to install an x-server on the soekris. You just run the application and export the session over the network to an x-server running on a desktop machine. Normally I do this by

Re: [Soekris] Debian install on 4801, eth0 won't work.

2010-02-27 Thread Marco A. Calamari
On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 12:07 -0500, Bob Camp wrote: Hi Not real sure that X would do a lot of good on a 4801 box Being able to make an rdesktop call to a small footprint wm make a lot of sense ... just install framebuffer and enjoy ... It was incredibly useful, at least for me ...

Re: [Soekris] Debian install on 4801, eth0 won't work.

2010-02-24 Thread der Mouse
Perhaps you're confusing X with insanely bloated modern desktop environments built atop X, like KDE and Gnome? (X is not a window system; it's a framework for building window systems. It's possible to build fairly lightweight window systems in X.) Well, well. That's X theory. X practice

Re: [Soekris] Debian install on 4801, eth0 won't work.

2010-02-23 Thread The Fungi
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 08:33:04AM +0100, Jan Ceuleers wrote: [...] r...@skr03:~# df . Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda5 6973240870264 5748748 14% / That's an Ubuntu Karmic server install (with manpages, Squid, Apache, what have

Re: [Soekris] Debian install on 4801, eth0 won't work.

2010-02-23 Thread Bob Camp
Subject: Re: [Soekris] Debian install on 4801, eth0 won't work. On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 08:33:04AM +0100, Jan Ceuleers wrote: [...] r...@skr03:~# df . Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda5 6973240870264 5748748 14% / That's an Ubuntu

Re: [Soekris] Debian install on 4801, eth0 won't work.

2010-02-23 Thread der Mouse
Not real sure that X would do a lot of good on a 4801 box I don't see why not. It was useful on Sun-3s, which were significantly wimpier. Perhaps you're confusing X with insanely bloated modern desktop environments built atop X, like KDE and Gnome? (X is not a window system; it's a

Re: [Soekris] Debian install on 4801, eth0 won't work.

2010-02-23 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
On 02/23/2010 06:59 PM, der Mouse wrote: Not real sure that X would do a lot of good on a 4801 box I don't see why not. It was useful on Sun-3s, which were significantly wimpier. I got XFCE up and running on a Lifebook S-4572 a couple of weeks ago. The 4572 is comparable to the 4801 in

Re: [Soekris] Debian install on 4801, eth0 won't work.

2010-02-23 Thread Jed Clear
On Tue Feb 23 12:59 , der Mouse sent: Not real sure that X would do a lot of good on a 4801 box I don't see why not. It was useful on Sun-3s, which were significantly wimpier. Perhaps you're confusing X with insanely bloated modern desktop environments built atop X, like KDE and Gnome?

Re: [Soekris] Debian install on 4801, eth0 won't work.

2010-02-22 Thread The Fungi
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:56:16PM -0800, William Estrada wrote: I wanted to install a small system image, so that is way I went the Debootstrap route. The standard installs, Fedora, Ubuntu, etc. all seam to install the world for you, like M$ does. My build was relatively small ( 1/2 gig ).

Re: [Soekris] Debian install on 4801, eth0 won't work.

2010-02-22 Thread Jan Ceuleers
William Estrada wrote: I wanted to install a small system image, so that is way I went the Debootstrap route. The standard installs, Fedora, Ubuntu, etc. all seam to install the world for you, like M$ does. My build was relatively small ( 1/2 gig ). r...@skr03:~# df . Filesystem

Re: [Soekris] Debian install on 4801, eth0 won't work.

2010-02-21 Thread Jan Ceuleers
William Estrada wrote: I'm new to Debian, how do I install this driver?? William, (Re-posting to the list as well. Can the list owner please automatically add an appropriate Reply-To header?). I agree with Andy, you may have been bitten by the persistent net rules (put in place by udev

Re: [Soekris] Debian install on 4801, eth0 won't work.

2010-02-21 Thread William Estrada
Jan, Ted, List, This has been an interesting project. I needed to build a new image for my 4801 with limited interruptions of server. That did not happen, it would have been quicker to that the server offline and use it to rebuild the system. The process was a learning experience and something I

Re: [Soekris] Debian install on 4801, eth0 won't work.

2010-02-20 Thread Ted Phelps
Hi William, William Estrada writes: I have just built a Debian Lenny image for my 4801, which is currently running FC5. It boots but will not bring up eth0, I am using the serial console. I have tested the build with my laptop and eth0 works just fine. Did i miss a module for the 4801??

Re: [Soekris] Debian install on 4801, eth0 won't work.

2010-02-20 Thread William Estrada
Ted Phelps wrote: Ted, The port is OK, it works with the currect OS ( FC5 ). I'm new to Debian, how do I install this driver?? Hi William, William Estrada writes: I have just built a Debian Lenny image for my 4801, which is currently running FC5. It boots but will not bring up eth0,

Re: [Soekris] Debian install on 4801, eth0 won't work.

2010-02-20 Thread Andy Michaels
William, I think you may be experiencing an issue with udev. If you've mounted this image on another machine, all of the eth ports will be assigned to specific MAC addresses (the ones on your laptop). If you then put the image on the soekris, you'll see that the eth ports you thought you

Re: [Soekris] Debian install on 4801, eth0 won't work.

2010-02-20 Thread Ted Phelps
Hi William, William Estrada writes: The port is OK, it works with the currect OS ( FC5 ). Just checking. :-) I'm new to Debian, how do I install this driver?? I'm not a Debian user myself, but you can check to see if the module is available by looking for natsemi.ko in: