how about some structure? (re: salvage the list)

2014-03-06 Thread Daniel G
Hi all, I have a suggestion for one of the alternatives to consider when deciding where to move future discussions: Atlassian's "Confluence" software/service. It's basically a very streamlined / polished collaboration system, which I think would be a good replacement for either an email list or a

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-06 Thread Sebastien Sterling
> >> Maurice Patel >> Autodesk : Tél: 514 954-7134 >> >> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: >> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Raffaele Fragapane >> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 6:59 PM >> To: softimage@list

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
4-7134 > > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: > softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Raffaele Fragapane > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 6:59 PM > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > Subject: Re: Salvage the list. > > "To add to Luc-

RE: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Maurice Patel
.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Salvage the list. "To add to Luc-Eric's post there is no plan to shut down this list." You'll have to bear with some of us if we're a bit wary. Is it the same kind of lack of plans of shutting something down as when there were no plans to shut

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Luca!!!!
"We are open to proposals."... no offence but.. .OH MY GOD!... 2014-03-06 0:58 GMT+01:00 Raffaele Fragapane : > "To add to Luc-Eric's post there is no plan to shut down this list." > You'll have to bear with some of us if we're a bit wary. > Is it the same kind of lack of plans of shutting somet

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
"To add to Luc-Eric's post there is no plan to shut down this list." You'll have to bear with some of us if we're a bit wary. Is it the same kind of lack of plans of shutting something down as when there were no plans to shut down Softimage only a few months ago? Just to know whether we have three

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Thank you for your answer Maurice. Mean no disrespect to you nor Luc-Eric, Graham, etc. You have a tough work to do, and I really don't want to be in your shoes. But for me Autodesk lost all of its credibility. We are migrating, not from Softimage but from anything to do with Autodesk. At leas

RE: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Maurice Patel
k.com Subject: Re: Salvage the list. Google groups have some limits on the number of messages per day https://support.google.com/a/answer/2524618?hl=en Given the number of members (1200+), you might hit the limit some days (if the list sends out emails to everyone for every post) On Wed, Mar 5, 2014

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Stephen Blair
Google groups have some limits on the number of messages per day https://support.google.com/a/answer/2524618?hl=en Given the number of members (1200+), you might hit the limit some days (if the list sends out emails to everyone for every post) On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Francois Lord wro

RE: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Manuel Huertas Marchena
t, hopefully we can help each other transition to maya/hou... in the coming days, weeks, months... regards -Manuel IMDB | Portfolio | Vimeo | Linkedin > Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 15:12:24 -0500 > From: flordli...@gmail.com > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > Subject: Re: Salvage

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Francois Lord
Even better. Thanks Luc-Eric. On 05-Mar-14 14:57, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: I think I didn't fully explained myself in that first post. if it comes to that, we could mass-subscribe the current users to that google group, or any list server of the community's choosing, in the same way we transfer

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
I think I didn't fully explained myself in that first post. if it comes to that, we could mass-subscribe the current users to that google group, or any list server of the community's choosing, in the same way we transferred everyone to this server from Avid. On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Franco

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Francois Lord
Wow, this thread exploded fast. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/xsi_list The google group archive above is not controlled by Autodesk. It was created by Patrick Boucher (remember xsi-blog.com?) and he later handed me the admin privileges. I am following this list on a daily basis even

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Eric Turman
We will not kill Softimage...we will not shut down this list..."don't piss down my back and tell me that its raining" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4e8iAofnrw On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Emilio Hernandez wrote: > We will continue to support and develop the mailing list > -- -=T=-

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Emilio Hernandez
We will continue to support and develop the mailing list

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Leendert A. Hartog
: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Salvage the list. Future of Softimage mailing list is bright... On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Leonard Koch wrote: I think Eric would also be an excellent and very trusted choice for setting it up. On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:46 PM, adrian wyer

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Eric Mootz
LOL! - Original Message - From: Mirko Jankovic To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 6:52 PM Subject: Re: Salvage the list. Future of Softimage mailing list is bright...

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Mirko Jankovic
com> wrote: > >> burn. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com >> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Mootz >> Sent: 05 March 2014 17:45 >> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >

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2014-03-05 Thread Leonard Koch
Behalf Of Eric Mootz > Sent: 05 March 2014 17:45 > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > Subject: Re: Salvage the list. > > Yeah, right. They also said they would not retire Softimage either. > > - Original Message - > From: "Luc-Eric Rousseau" > To: >

RE: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread adrian wyer
burn. -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Mootz Sent: 05 March 2014 17:45 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Salvage the list. Yeah, right. They also said they would not

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Eric Mootz
Yeah, right. They also said they would not retire Softimage either. - Original Message - From: "Luc-Eric Rousseau" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 6:39 PM Subject: Re: Salvage the list. Autodesk is not shutting down the Softimage mailing list.

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Ognjen Vukovic
:) On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: > Autodesk is not shutting down the Softimage mailing list. >

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
Autodesk is not shutting down the Softimage mailing list.

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Byron Nash
+1 on not rushing. Autodesk isn't going to shut this thing down tomorrow. I agree that an alternative should be sought, but we have time to choose wisely. On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:42 AM, David Rivera < activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com> wrote: > So official "posting" for everyone to know (and get

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2014-03-05 Thread David Rivera
So official "posting" for everyone to know (and get cached on google´s bots) are: softimage.tv, and si-community ? Or vimeo channels? Please help us so the whole planet knows. Also Twitter with official account for this list, it´s a point missing. thank you all, guys. We´re really making this ha

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Emilio Hernandez
>>>> >>>>>> So, google group? its the only way i know for mailing list, if anyone >>>>>> has another idea... >>>>>> F. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2014-03-05 12:09 GMT-03:

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Francisco Criado
the original idea was to make a new mailing list that will not only give home to the ones that will keep using softimage, but also the ones that will migrate to other software, and coninue sharing ideas, workflows and methods to translate softimage workarounds to other software too. So the name rel

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Gustavo Eggert Boehs
Xsi orphans Em quarta-feira, 5 de março de 2014, Leendert A. Hartog < leender...@planet.nl> escreveu: > > Naming it shouldn't pose too much of a problem: simply recall it the > XSI-mailing list as opposed to Autodeskian Softimage one > > Leendert > > Leendert A. Hartog - Softimage hobbyist > AKA

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Leendert A. Hartog
Naming it shouldn’t pose too much of a problem: simply recall it the XSI-mailing list as opposed to Autodeskian Softimage one Leendert Leendert A. Hartog – Softimage hobbyist AKA Hirazi Blue – Administrator @, NOT the owner of si-community.com

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Emilio Hernandez
>>>>> >>>>> On 5 March 2014 15:19, Francisco Criado wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> So, google group? its the only way i know for mailing list, if anyone >>>>>> has another idea... >>>>>> F. >>>>>> >>>>>> &g

RE: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread adrian wyer
1 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Salvage the list. As this is potentially quite an important thing we are talking about here, can we please not rush this or end up with 10 different initiatives... Polling each decision seems to me to be the best way to approach this from the outset.

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Sebastien Sterling
gt;>>> So, google group? its the only way i know for mailing list, if anyone >>>>>> has another idea... >>>>>> F. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2014-03-05 12:09 GMT-03:00 Angus Davidson &g

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Francisco Criado
t;>> >>>>> On 5 March 2014 15:19, Francisco Criado wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> So, google group? its the only way i know for mailing list, if anyone >>>>>> has another idea... >>>>>> F. >>>>>> >>>>>> >

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Sebastien Sterling
> F. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2014-03-05 12:09 GMT-03:00 Angus Davidson : >>>>> >>>>> I have email alerts firing from both, pretty much at the same >>>>>> frequency since the announcement. >

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Dan Yargici
idea... >>>>> F. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2014-03-05 12:09 GMT-03:00 Angus Davidson : >>>>> >>>>> I have email alerts firing from both, pretty much at the same >>>>>> frequenc

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Rob Chapman
3:00 Angus Davidson : >>>> >>>> I have email alerts firing from both, pretty much at the same >>>>> frequency since the announcement. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *From:* Ognjen

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Sebastien Sterling
>>> >>> I have email alerts firing from both, pretty much at the same >>>> frequency since the announcement. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *From:* Ognjen Vukovic [ognj...@gmail.com] >>>>

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Alan Fregtman
Davidson : >> >> I have email alerts firing from both, pretty much at the same frequency >>> since the announcement. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *From:* Ognjen Vukovic [ognj...@gmail.com] >>> *Sent:* 05 March 2014 05:05 PM &

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Leendert A. Hartog
: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 4:19 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Salvage the list. So, google group? its the only way i know for mailing list, if anyone has another idea... F. 2014-03-05 12:09 GMT-03:00 Angus Davidson : I have email alerts firing from both, pretty much at the

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Rob Wuijster
equency since the announcement. *From:* Ognjen Vukovic [ognj...@gmail.com <mailto:ognj...@gmail.com>] *Sent:* 05 March 2014 05:05 PM *To:* softimage *Subject:* Re: Salvage the list. Did the mailing list just die down all of a s

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Francisco Criado
;> >> >> 2014-03-05 12:09 GMT-03:00 Angus Davidson : >> >> I have email alerts firing from both, pretty much at the same frequency >>> since the announcement. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *From:* Ognjen Vuko

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Sebastien Sterling
e frequency >> since the announcement. >> >> >> -- >> *From:* Ognjen Vukovic [ognj...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* 05 March 2014 05:05 PM >> *To:* softimage >> *Subject:* Re: Salvage the list. >> >> Did the mailing list just die down all of a sudden

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Francisco Criado
announcement. >>> >>> >>> ---------- >>> *From:* Ognjen Vukovic [ognj...@gmail.com] >>> *Sent:* 05 March 2014 05:05 PM >>> *To:* softimage >>> *Subject:* Re: Salvage the list. >>> >>> Did the maili

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Simon Reeves
both, pretty much at the same frequency >> since the announcement. >> >> >> -- >> *From:* Ognjen Vukovic [ognj...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* 05 March 2014 05:05 PM >> *To:* softimage >> *Subject:* Re: Salvage the list. >> >&

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Francisco Criado
gt; *From:* Ognjen Vukovic [ognj...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* 05 March 2014 05:05 PM > *To:* softimage > *Subject:* Re: Salvage the list. > > Did the mailing list just die down all of a sudden? Is everyone off to > si-community, if so i think thats not the best solution as forum

RE: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Angus Davidson
I have email alerts firing from both, pretty much at the same frequency since the announcement. From: Ognjen Vukovic [ognj...@gmail.com] Sent: 05 March 2014 05:05 PM To: softimage Subject: Re: Salvage the list. Did the mailing list just die down all of a sudden

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Ognjen Vukovic
Did the mailing list just die down all of a sudden? Is everyone off to si-community, if so i think thats not the best solution as forums tend to dilute down the level of discussion over various boards which is not in my opinion the best thing right now. On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Leonard Ko

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Leonard Koch
I agree that we cannot lose this community and another mailing list to run concurrent with the SI List for the next couple years should be a good solution. On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Rob Wuijster wrote: > You do realize Google is as trigger happy with software as AD right? ;-P > I would

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-05 Thread Rob Wuijster
You do realize Google is as trigger happy with software as AD right? ;-P I would prefer something less 'corporate'. And I don't really use Google stuff too btw Rob \/-\/\/ On 5-3-2014 2:59, Francisco Criado wrote: Thought that making a forum site, would demand

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-04 Thread Sebastien Sterling
Lol, was toying with the Idea of naming the new list Organic Light and Magic Farmers growing organic VFX :) On 5 March 2014 02:41, Francisco Criado wrote: > Well as a first step leaving the list as a way of strike against AD > philosophy would be nice. > Backup of past posts are in google, s

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-04 Thread Francisco Criado
Well as a first step leaving the list as a way of strike against AD philosophy would be nice. Backup of past posts are in google, so what do you think? i feel like this: http://youtu.be/r7ObPFtGijw Since i'm not one of the legends here on this list, it would be nice to have support on the idea fro

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-04 Thread Byron Nash
If the list ever morphs into something new, I would like to cast a vote that it stay an email discussion list and not be a forum. I feel like lists have more accountability and are easier to keep up with. Just my $.02 On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Emilio Hernandez wrote: > I totally agree wi

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-04 Thread Sebastien Sterling
We share your pain bro :) On 5 March 2014 02:10, Emilio Hernandez wrote: > I totally agree with what you've said Sebastien. And I believe that > SI-Communtiy is that right place for us to go, and keep it going. Many has > been shared here. Knowledge, passion, dislikes, etc., and that is what

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-04 Thread Emilio Hernandez
I totally agree with what you've said Sebastien. And I believe that SI-Communtiy is that right place for us to go, and keep it going. Many has been shared here. Knowledge, passion, dislikes, etc., and that is what have made the community so strong. I believe that we need a refresh. I have a de

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-04 Thread Francisco Criado
Thought that making a forum site, would demand too much time for maintainance, and also we saw xsibase go down so, maybe a google group? F. On Tuesday, March 4, 2014, Alok Gandhi wrote: > I think a new list is good idea. It can be even more awesome if all of us > can pull our resources together

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2014-03-04 Thread Alok Gandhi
I think a new list is good idea. It can be even more awesome if all of us can pull our resources together and ask and share about any DCC we are using. Be it maya, houdini, max, modo, blender etc. Let's make a new list and keep doing the same thing that we have been doing over the years - Ask,

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-04 Thread Sebastien Sterling
You don't seem to be aware of many things these days Luc-eric :P. no... that wasn't fair of me i apologize. My point was more to the effect that we should not wait for such plans to occur. Allowing people to ease into a new routine Yes Francisco, i too think a new list would be a good option. one

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-04 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
I'm not aware of plans to shut down this list. If there were, the Google group could be used as a backup On Mar 4, 2014 7:53 PM, "Sebastien Sterling" wrote: > My fellows, friends, comrades. > > The recent events that have befallen our community enunciate a breaking. > > After this nothing or very

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-04 Thread Francisco Criado
Thanks Sebastien for you kind words, it would be nice to have a place like si-community that will also need to have place for posts about other software. I think that a forum like; http://tech-artists.org/forum/forum.php would be nice, since, i believe that the common si artist will transform in

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-04 Thread Emilio Hernandez
I will second this one, and I will add to donate at si-community to keep it going. --- Emilio Hernández VFX & 3D animation. 2014-03-04 18:57 GMT-06:00 nick name : > si-community is out of Autodesk's reach, so whoever is not yet an user has >

Re: Salvage the list.

2014-03-04 Thread nick name
si-community is out of Autodesk's reach, so whoever is not yet an user has no reason to wait. On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 2:53 AM, Sebastien Sterling < sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote: > My fellows, friends, comrades. > > The recent events that have befallen our community enunciate a breaking. >

Salvage the list.

2014-03-04 Thread Sebastien Sterling
My fellows, friends, comrades. The recent events that have befallen our community enunciate a breaking. After this nothing or very little will be the same. People will shortly be departing for uncertain pastures. One way or another, a long journey through the night awaits us all, and we will find