Re: trying to looking on the bright side......

2014-03-19 Thread Arvid Björn
Like someone else said, I can spend days in an ICE tree before caching anything, it seems to me that the instantness of ICE would be lost in a round-trip to an external process. But I'm sure it has a lot of advantages. A big one for AD being that they don't have to venture too deep into the Maya

Re: trying to looking on the bright side......

2014-03-19 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
The caching thing is a bit of a resentful point to be honest. Soft doesn't have a flip solver at all, if it had one, you would be caching a fair bit :) The transfer looks a bit klunky, but not knowing the data beneath I can't really tell if it's groan worthy or not. Bifrost's first version is

RE: trying to looking on the bright side......

2014-03-19 Thread adrian wyer
: 19 March 2014 12:28 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: trying to looking on the bright side.. The caching thing is a bit of a resentful point to be honest. Soft doesn't have a flip solver at all, if it had one, you would be caching a fair bit :) The transfer looks a bit klunky

RE: trying to looking on the bright side......

2014-03-19 Thread Graham Bell
...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Raffaele Fragapane Sent: 19 March 2014 12:28 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: trying to looking on the bright side.. The caching thing is a bit of a resentful point

trying to looking on the bright side......

2014-03-18 Thread Andi Farhall
my take on it all is that an undeveloped and unsupported soft will be the better tool than maya for the likes of us for much more than a couple of years. On paper it might look scary but i think it'll be different in practice. Maybe we'll be able to keep going long enough to see maya get

RE: trying to looking on the bright side......

2014-03-18 Thread Andres Stephens
+1 --- Original Message --- From: Andi Farhall hack...@outlook.com Sent: March 18, 2014 10:31 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: trying to looking on the bright side.. my take on it all is that an undeveloped and unsupported soft will be the better tool than maya for the likes

Re: trying to looking on the bright side......

2014-03-18 Thread Arvid Björn
I was really surprised that Bifrost was some external process, and then even more surprised that they tried to tout this as a good thing. Here's the mental image I got during that demo: http://i.imgur.com/OUhV4wj.jpg On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Morten Bartholdy x...@colorshopvfx.dkwrote:

Re: trying to looking on the bright side......

2014-03-18 Thread olivier jeannel
LOL Le 18/03/2014 18:48, Arvid Björn a écrit : I was really surprised that Bifrost was some external process, and then even more surprised that they tried to tout this as a good thing. Here's the mental image I got during that demo: http://i.imgur.com/OUhV4wj.jpg On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at

Re: trying to looking on the bright side......

2014-03-18 Thread Alan Fregtman
*Always look on the bright side of life...* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Wx230gYJw [**spoiler alert** if you've never seen Monty Python's 35-year-old classic *Life Of Brian*.] On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Arvid Björn arvidbj...@gmail.com wrote: I was really surprised that Bifrost

Re: trying to looking on the bright side......

2014-03-18 Thread Morten Bartholdy
He Den 18. marts 2014 kl. 18:48 skrev Arvid Björn arvidbj...@gmail.com: I was really surprised that Bifrost was some external process, and then even more surprised that they tried to tout this as a good thing. Here's the mental image I got during that demo: http://i.imgur.com/OUhV4wj.jpg

Re: trying to looking on the bright side......

2014-03-18 Thread olivier jeannel
That's the hole mailing list you have here :) Le 18/03/2014 18:56, Alan Fregtman a écrit : /Always look on the bright side of life.../ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Wx230gYJw [**spoiler alert** if you've never seen Monty Python's 35-year-old classic /Life Of Brian/.] On Tue, Mar 18,

Re: trying to looking on the bright side......

2014-03-18 Thread Arvid Björn
Sorry, it kept bouncing, I don't know which ones made it through ;-) On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 7:03 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.frwrote: That's the hole mailing list you have here :) Le 18/03/2014 18:56, Alan Fregtman a écrit :

Re: trying to looking on the bright side......

2014-03-18 Thread Sebastien Sterling
Yeah, but are you reeeaaallly surprised Arvid ? reeeaaallly ? :P On 18 March 2014 17:48, Arvid Björn arvidbj...@gmail.com wrote: I was really surprised that Bifrost was some external process, and then even more surprised that they tried to tout this as a good thing. Here's the mental image I

Re: trying to looking on the bright side......

2014-03-18 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
In my book that it's an external module is good for a very extensive number of reasons, and it has a good team behind it. The approach to the dev and release cycle though I find both questionable and insufficient to place it anywhere significant on the map any some than two to three years, and