Re: [Softwires] [v4tov6transition] IPv6 VPNs configured over 1280 MTU tunnels

2010-10-11 Thread Templin, Fred L
-Original Message- From: Washam Fan [mailto:washam@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 8:02 PM To: Templin, Fred L Cc: Softwires; v4tov6transit...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [v4tov6transition] IPv6 VPNs configured over 1280 MTU tunnels Hi, 2010/10/9 Templin, Fred L

Re: [Softwires] [v4tov6transition] IPv6 VPNs configured over 1280 MTU tunnels

2010-10-11 Thread Templin, Fred L
-Original Message- From: Rémi Després [mailto:remi.desp...@free.fr] Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 9:29 AM To: Washam Fan; Templin, Fred L Cc: Softwires; v4tov6transit...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [v4tov6transition] IPv6 VPNs configured over 1280 MTU tunnels Hi Washam and Fred,

Re: [Softwires] [v4tov6transition] IPv6 VPNs configured over 1280 MTU tunnels

2010-10-11 Thread Rémi Després
Le 11 oct. 2010 à 18:42, Templin, Fred L a écrit : ... Actually, the 6a44 specification should, instead of 1280, require IPv4 MTU - 28 octets, both for hairpinning and traversal cases. How can you be sure that IPv4 PMTUD will work in the traversal case? In the to-host direction,

Re: [Softwires] [v4tov6transition] IPv6 VPNs configured over 1280 MTU tunnels

2010-10-11 Thread Templin, Fred L
Remi, -Original Message- From: Rémi Després [mailto:remi.desp...@free.fr] Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:05 AM To: Templin, Fred L Cc: Washam Fan; Softwires; v4tov6transit...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [v4tov6transition] IPv6 VPNs configured over 1280 MTU tunnels Le 11 oct.

Re: [Softwires] DHCPv6 AFTR name option is needed

2010-10-11 Thread Ralph Droms
(Adding dhc WG chairs to the thread.) The client behavior in draft-ietf-softwire-ds-lite-tunnel-option-04 did not describe any mechanism in which the client would combine the FQDN from the tunnel option with a suffix in the search list option to form a new name to use as its AFTR, nor did it

Re: [Softwires] [v4tov6transition] IPv6 VPNs configured over 1280MTU tunnels

2010-10-11 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Fred On 2010-10-12 07:23, Templin, Fred L wrote: In the to-host direction, because the ISP network is all what is left to traverse before reaching the CPE. In what you call the to-host direction, any ICMPv4 returned from the ISP network might not have enough information for stateless

Re: [Softwires] [v4tov6transition] IPv6 VPNs configured over1280MTU tunnels

2010-10-11 Thread Templin, Fred L
Hi Brian, -Original Message- From: softwires-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:softwires-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 2:26 PM To: Templin, Fred L Cc: Softwires; v4tov6transit...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Softwires] [v4tov6transition] IPv6

Re: [Softwires] [v4tov6transition] IPv6 VPNs configured over 1280 MTU tunnels

2010-10-11 Thread Washam Fan
Hi, If 6a44 deployed in a managed ISP network, the 6a44 client could be configured with IPv4_MTU-28 for its IPv6 MTU. For inbound direction, 6a44 server would reject any IPv6 packets whose size exceeds IPv4_MTU-28 with a ICMPv6 PTB message, so no ICMPv6-ICMPv4 translation needed. For outbound

Re: [Softwires] [v4tov6transition] IPv6 VPNs configured over 1280 MTU tunnels

2010-10-11 Thread Templin, Fred L
Hi Washam, -Original Message- From: Washam Fan [mailto:washam@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 7:38 PM To: Templin, Fred L Cc: Rémi Després; Softwires; v4tov6transit...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [v4tov6transition] IPv6 VPNs configured over 1280 MTU tunnels Hi, If

Re: [Softwires] DHCPv6 AFTR name option is needed

2010-10-11 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear Raplh, Do you suggest the I-D should elaborate further on the FQDN use cases so this to be acceptable by the IESG? Chairs, how should we proceed? The version which passed the WG LC is not the 05. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : softwires-boun...@ietf.org

Re: [Softwires] [v4tov6transition] IPv6 VPNs configured over 1280 MTU tunnels

2010-10-11 Thread Washam Fan
Hi Fred, I might see your points. Let H represents Host, N represents NAT, S represents the 6a44 servers. PMTU(H,S) stands for the PMTU between H and S. HOME_MTU represents MTU within home LAN (i.e., unmanaged network), SP_MTU represents MTU within SP network(i.e., managed network). We assume