Re: Next Solr Release - 5.5.1 or 6.0 ?

2016-03-25 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 3/25/2016 5:32 PM, Shawn Heisey wrote: > You are correct. Solr (Lucene, actually) only maintains compatibility > with indexes from the previous major version, so 6.x will read 5.x > indexes, but not indexes built by 4.x or earlier. Further clarification on this specific point. This is your

Re: Next Solr Release - 5.5.1 or 6.0 ?

2016-03-25 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 3/24/2016 9:45 AM, Jack Krupansky wrote: > Does anybody know if we have doc on the recommended process for upgrading > data after upgrading Solr? Sure the upgraded version will work fine with > that old data, but unless the data is upgraded, the user can't then upgrade > to the next major

Re: Next Solr Release - 5.5.1 or 6.0 ?

2016-03-24 Thread Jack Krupansky
Thanks, Erick, I had forgotten about that. I did find one short reference to it in the doc: "Be sure to run the Lucene IndexUpgrader included with Solr 4.10 if you might still have old 3x formatted segments in your index. Alternatively: fully optimize your index with Solr 4.10 to make sure it

Re: Next Solr Release - 5.5.1 or 6.0 ?

2016-03-24 Thread Yonik Seeley
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Tomás Fernández Löbbe wrote: >> >> >> Not to mention the fact that Solr 6 is using deprecated Lucene 6 >> numeric types if those are removed in Lucene 7, then what? >> >> I believe this is going to be an issue. We have SOLR-8396 >

Re: Next Solr Release - 5.5.1 or 6.0 ?

2016-03-24 Thread Yago Riveiro
I did the IndexUpgrade path to upgrade my 4.x index to 5.x (15 terabytes of data an growing), It wasn't an easy task to do it without downtime, IndexUpgrade doesn't work if the replica is loaded. With 12T of data re-index is like a no-no operation (the time expended to do the re-index can

Re: Next Solr Release - 5.5.1 or 6.0 ?

2016-03-24 Thread Tomás Fernández Löbbe
> > > Not to mention the fact that Solr 6 is using deprecated Lucene 6 > numeric types if those are removed in Lucene 7, then what? > > I believe this is going to be an issue. We have SOLR-8396 open, but it doesn't look like it's going to make

Re: Next Solr Release - 5.5.1 or 6.0 ?

2016-03-24 Thread Yonik Seeley
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Erick Erickson wrote: > There's always the IndexUpgrader, one could run the 5x version against > a 4x index and have a 5x-compatible index that would then be readable > by 6x OOB. This may be the last time that will work. See the thread

Re: Next Solr Release - 5.5.1 or 6.0 ?

2016-03-24 Thread Erick Erickson
There's always the IndexUpgrader, one could run the 5x version against a 4x index and have a 5x-compatible index that would then be readable by 6x OOB. A bit convoluted to be sure. Erick On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Yonik Seeley wrote: > On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 11:45 AM,

Re: Next Solr Release - 5.5.1 or 6.0 ?

2016-03-24 Thread Yonik Seeley
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Bram Van Dam wrote: > On 23/03/16 15:50, Yonik Seeley wrote: >> Kind of a unique situation for a dot-oh release, but from the Solr >> perspective, 6.0 should have *fewer* bugs than 5.5 (for those features >> in 5.5 at least)... we've been

Re: Next Solr Release - 5.5.1 or 6.0 ?

2016-03-24 Thread Yonik Seeley
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Yonik Seeley wrote: >> I've been led to understand that 6.X (at least the Lucene part?) won't >> be backwards compatible with 4.X data. 5.5 at least works fine with data >> files from 4.7, for instance. It really doesn't seem like much changed

Re: Next Solr Release - 5.5.1 or 6.0 ?

2016-03-24 Thread Jack Krupansky
Does anybody know if we have doc on the recommended process for upgrading data after upgrading Solr? Sure the upgraded version will work fine with that old data, but unless the data is upgraded, the user can't then upgrade to the next major release after that. This is a case in point - the user is

Re: Next Solr Release - 5.5.1 or 6.0 ?

2016-03-24 Thread Bram Van Dam
On 23/03/16 15:50, Yonik Seeley wrote: > Kind of a unique situation for a dot-oh release, but from the Solr > perspective, 6.0 should have *fewer* bugs than 5.5 (for those features > in 5.5 at least)... we've been squashing a bunch of docValue related > issues. I've been led to understand that

Re: Next Solr Release - 5.5.1 or 6.0 ?

2016-03-23 Thread Yonik Seeley
Kind of a unique situation for a dot-oh release, but from the Solr perspective, 6.0 should have *fewer* bugs than 5.5 (for those features in 5.5 at least)... we've been squashing a bunch of docValue related issues. -Yonik On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:19 AM, Alessandro Benedetti

Re: Next Solr Release - 5.5.1 or 6.0 ?

2016-03-23 Thread Alessandro Benedetti
Thanks Erick, I thought the same, better to wait a little bit for a 6.x migration. Let give it some time to be released and pissibly bug fixed :) I will follow your suggestion, migrate from 4.10.2 to 5.5.0, a possible 5.5.1 should be trivial to upgrade later. Cheers On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 4:45

Re: Next Solr Release - 5.5.1 or 6.0 ?

2016-03-22 Thread Erick Erickson
No real plans have been made that I know of for a 5.5.1 release. What happens is that 5.5 was cut as, potentially, the last 5x release. Some small fixes are still back-ported "just in case" there's a 5.5.1 release. As for 6.0, that's something of a moving target currently, we're still flushing