Re: Why do people want to deploy to Tomcat?

2013-11-13 Thread Alexandre Rafalovitch
So, it sounds like that either Solr is treated as a webapp, in which case it is installed with most of the webapps under Tomcat (legacy/operational reason). So, Solr docs just needs to explain how to deploy under Tomcat and the rest of document/tooling comes from Tomcat community. Or, if Solr is

Re: Why do people want to deploy to Tomcat?

2013-11-13 Thread Dmitry Kan
Hi, Reading that people have considered deploying example folder is slightly strange to me. No wonder they are confused and confuse their ops. We just took vanilla jetty (jetty9) and installed solr.war on it, configured it, no example folders at all. Since then it works nicely. The main reason

Re: Why do people want to deploy to Tomcat?

2013-11-13 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 11/13/2013 5:29 AM, Dmitry Kan wrote: Reading that people have considered deploying example folder is slightly strange to me. No wonder they are confused and confuse their ops. I do use the stripped jetty included in the example, but my setup is not a straight copy of the example

Re: Why do people want to deploy to Tomcat?

2013-11-13 Thread Mark Miller
RE: the example folder It’s something I’ve been pushing towards moving away from for a long time - see https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3619 Rename 'example' dir to 'server' and pull examples into an 'examples’ directory Part of a push I’ve been on to own the Container level (people

Re: Why do people want to deploy to Tomcat?

2013-11-13 Thread Robert Muir
which example? there are so many. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Mark Miller markrmil...@gmail.com wrote: RE: the example folder It’s something I’ve been pushing towards moving away from for a long time - see https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3619 Rename 'example' dir to

Re: Why do people want to deploy to Tomcat?

2013-11-12 Thread Andre Bois-Crettez
We are using Solr running on Tomcat. I think the top reasons for us are : - we already have nagios monitoring plugins for tomcat that trace queries ok/error, http codes / response time etc in access logs, number of threads, jvm memory usage etc - start, stop, watchdogs, logs : we also use our

Re: Why do people want to deploy to Tomcat?

2013-11-12 Thread Alvaro Cabrerizo
In my case, the selection of the servlet container has never been a hard requirement. I mean, some customers provide us a virtual machine configured with java/tomcat , others have a tomcat installed and want to share it with solr, others prefer jetty because their sysadmins are used to configure

Re: Why do people want to deploy to Tomcat?

2013-11-12 Thread Roland Everaert
In my case, the first time I had to deploy and configure solr on tomcat (and jboss) it was a requirement to reuse as much as possible the application/web server already in place. The next deployment I also use tomcat, because I was used to deploy on tomcat and I don't know jetty at all. I could

Re: Why do people want to deploy to Tomcat?

2013-11-12 Thread Paul Libbrecht
I personally felt Tomcat to be in a more appropriate community, that of the Apache Foundation, than Jetty. Also, jetty always has been striving for simplicity and that's really not always what you intend to when you plan an app-server. E.g. features such as the manager or mod_ajp appeared

Re: Why do people want to deploy to Tomcat?

2013-11-12 Thread Doug Turnbull
As an aside, I think one reason people feel compelled to deviate from the distributed jetty distribution is because the folder is named example. I've had to explain to a few clients that this is a bit of a misnomer. The IT dept especially sees example and feels uncomfortable using that as a

Re: Why do people want to deploy to Tomcat?

2013-11-12 Thread Amit Aggarwal
Agreed with Doug On 12-Nov-2013 6:46 PM, Doug Turnbull dturnb...@opensourceconnections.com wrote: As an aside, I think one reason people feel compelled to deviate from the distributed jetty distribution is because the folder is named example. I've had to explain to a few clients that this is a

Re: Why do people want to deploy to Tomcat?

2013-11-12 Thread Sebastián Ramírez
I agree with Doug, when I started I had to spend some time figuring out what was just an example and what I would have to change in a production environment... until I found that all the example was ready for production. Of course, you commonly have to change the settings, parameters, fields,

RE: Why do people want to deploy to Tomcat?

2013-11-12 Thread Hoggarth, Gil
to do so. Gil -Original Message- From: Sebastián Ramírez [mailto:sebastian.rami...@senseta.com] Sent: 12 November 2013 13:38 To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: Why do people want to deploy to Tomcat? I agree with Doug, when I started I had to spend some time figuring out what

RE: Why do people want to deploy to Tomcat?

2013-11-12 Thread Henrik Ossipoff Hansen
Ramírez [mailto:sebastian.rami...@senseta.com] Sent: 12 November 2013 13:38 To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: Why do people want to deploy to Tomcat? I agree with Doug, when I started I had to spend some time figuring out what was just an example and what I would have to change

Re: Why do people want to deploy to Tomcat?

2013-11-12 Thread Dejan Caric
discussed - the views can help me argue our case to use jetty if it is indeed more beneficial to do so. Gil -Original Message- From: Sebastián Ramírez [mailto:sebastian.rami...@senseta.com] Sent: 12 November 2013 13:38 To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: Why do people want

Re: Why do people want to deploy to Tomcat?

2013-11-12 Thread Siegfried Goeschl
Hi ALex, in my case * ignorance that Tomcat is not fully supported * Tomcat configuration and operations know-how inhouse * could migrate to Jetty but need approved change request to do so Cheers, Siegfried Goeschl On 12.11.13 04:54, Alexandre Rafalovitch wrote: Hello, I keep seeing here

Re: Why do people want to deploy to Tomcat?

2013-11-12 Thread Lukasz Salwinski
On 12.11.13 04:54, Alexandre Rafalovitch wrote: Hello, I keep seeing here and on Stack Overflow people trying to deploy Solr to Tomcat. We don't usually ask why, just help when where we can. But the question happens often enough that I am curious. What is the actual business case. Is that

Re: Why do people want to deploy to Tomcat?

2013-11-12 Thread Lukasz Salwinski
On 11/12/2013 09:28 AM, Lukasz Salwinski wrote: On 12.11.13 04:54, Alexandre Rafalovitch wrote: Hello, I keep seeing here and on Stack Overflow people trying to deploy Solr to Tomcat. We don't usually ask why, just help when where we can. But the question happens often enough that I am

Re: Why do people want to deploy to Tomcat?

2013-11-12 Thread Sujit Pal
In our case, it is because all our other applications are deployed on Tomcat and ops is familiar with the deployment process. We also had customizations that needed to go in, so we inserted our custom JAR into the solr.war's WEB-INF/lib directory, so to ops the process of deploying Solr was

Re: Why do people want to deploy to Tomcat?

2013-11-12 Thread Gopal Patwa
My case is also similar to Sujit Pal but we have jboss6. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Sujit Pal sujit@comcast.net wrote: In our case, it is because all our other applications are deployed on Tomcat and ops is familiar with the deployment process. We also had customizations that

Why do people want to deploy to Tomcat?

2013-11-11 Thread Alexandre Rafalovitch
Hello, I keep seeing here and on Stack Overflow people trying to deploy Solr to Tomcat. We don't usually ask why, just help when where we can. But the question happens often enough that I am curious. What is the actual business case. Is that because Tomcat is well known? Is it because other apps