Re: [SAtalk] Re: spammer reactions to antidrug (humorous)

2004-01-31 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:10 PM 1/30/2004, Bob George wrote: Are the spammers using some sort of filter to obscure the text into something consistently decipherable? The messages I'm seeing lately remind me of the 'haxor', 'jive', 'chef' and 'kraut' filters (http://www2.dystance.net:8080/software/talkfilters/). While

Re: [SAtalk] autolearning spam as ham?

2004-01-31 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:59 AM 1/30/2004, PieterB wrote: Shouldn't a message that is identified as spam by the bayesian filter of spamassassin (BAYES_90 or BAYES_99 in my case) never be used as a message that is learned as ham? (I would expect it not to be used for learning because it wouldn't improve the

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Another v word got through

2004-01-31 Thread Matt Kettler
Sweet.. thanks man, I've been meaning to run mass-check on it myself.. I've been wondering about the FPs in the MALEDYSFUNCTION rules.. it's obvious all the FPs hit both it and obfu, which is weird. I've had several technical mails hit, but upon trying to re-test them and get them to hit, they

Re: [SAtalk] Can someone explain this?

2004-01-31 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:42 AM 1/30/2004, Chris Barnes wrote: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=5.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_WEB_BUGS,LOCAL_PERLMX_TAG_80,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.61 It met the required hit total (exactly) to be classified as spam. No, the

Re: [SAtalk] Some filtered, some not!

2004-01-30 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:39 PM 1/28/2004, John Fleming wrote: Below are example of 2 headers from the SATalk list. One was apparently filtered by Spamassassin, and one not. What's the difference? Some of my mail is being filtered, and some not, and I have no idea why! I thought a reboot fixed it, but NOT!

[SAtalk] [RD] spammer reactions to antidrug (humorous)

2004-01-30 Thread Matt Kettler
Today I got an interesting form of obfuscation, apparently to avoid antidrug.cf. I'm not sure wether to bother with adding rules for this, or be satisfied that the obfuscations are so severe that the messages are now barely legible. Since spammers rely on responses from the mentally-deficient,

Re: [SAtalk] Clearing and retraining all bayes HAM

2004-01-30 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:17 AM 1/28/2004, Robb Bryn wrote: Is there anyway to clear all the HAM for Bayes and retrain it without loosing all the SPAM? I think that my HAM portion of the db has been corrupted by the autolearn feature (which I have now disabled) and I'de really like to retrain it manually. One

[SAtalk] [RD] antidrug 0.42 - minor update

2004-01-30 Thread Matt Kettler
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mkettler/sa/antidrug.cf Corrected mis-use of __DRUGS_MALEDYSFUNCTION13 in LOCAL_DRUGS_MALDYSFUNCTION_OBFU. 13 does match the plain, unmodified v-word, so it can't be used as a sign of obfuscation. Corrected some un-escaped litteral ;'s in

Re: [SAtalk] autolearning spam as ham?

2004-01-30 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:51 AM 1/30/2004, Fred wrote: A bug in 2.6 caused messages which hit BAYES_99 to be learned as ham, this has been fixed, you should upgrade. For reference, there was no bug per se. The fact that the message hit BAYES_99 did not cause it to be learned as ham. However, newer versions of

Re: [SAtalk] spamassassin again.

2004-01-30 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:22 PM 1/30/2004, Spyros Tsiolis wrote: 1. spamassassin ! Plain sa installation . What next ? Training ? 1000 Spam and 1000 Ham ?? Bayes training is a good thing. Ideal is to have a spam/ham training ratio close to what comes into your server in reality. However, considerable

RE: [SAtalk] bayes question: HAM

2004-01-29 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:10 AM 1/28/04 +0200, Thomas Kinghorn wrote: My spamd is running as xadmin xadmin 17057 1 0 Jan27 ?00:00:22 /usr/bin/perl -T -w /usr/bin/spamd -d -a -u xadmin Do I need to run sa-learn as xadmin If so, I could kick myself, I have been training it while logged in as

Re: [SAtalk] thank you guys

2004-01-29 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:22 AM 1/23/2004, JRiley wrote: HolyMoly...69.27 seconds?! How'd you port SpamAssassin to run on a Commodore Vic-20? Something tells me that most of that time is likely due a couple of network tests that are timing out for _every_ email. ie: he might have DCC installed, but not allow the

Re: [SAtalk] Razor server timeout problems ?

2004-01-29 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:00 AM 1/28/2004, Simon Byrnand wrote: Has anyone else noticed frequent timeouts with Razor2 ? I disabled it Friday due to timeouts. In my experience, razor often has short-term problems that last a couple days then clear up. Right now they're probably experiencing high load, just like

Re: [SAtalk] rule to catch phishermen?

2004-01-28 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:39 PM 1/26/04 -0500, Kurt Yoder wrote: snip body PHISHERMEN /http:\/\/(\w*?\.)+[a-zA-Z]{2,10}?[^/\s]*?@/ score PHISHERMEN 5.0 snip Don't use the body ruletype.. SA removes all HTML tags before running body. Use uri instead of body. It also seems you're just going to catch any URL which

Re: [SAtalk] Another v word got through

2004-01-28 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:13 PM 1/26/04 -0500, WA9ALS - John wrote: This one even has the V word spelled correctly as part of a bigger word. How is it getting past the DRUGS and MRWIGGLY rules? http://wa9als.com/spam2.html I've gotten a couple of these now and have added a body check for the grax word, but that

Re: [SAtalk] bayes question: HAM

2004-01-28 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:10 PM 1/27/04 +0200, Thomas Kinghorn wrote: While using spamd -D, I can see the messages being learned as ham. However, while doing a spamassasin -D --lint, it shows only 1 ham. sa-learn --dump magic shows [EMAIL PROTECTED] exim]# sa-learn --dump magic snip I have attached the --lint

Re: [SAtalk] auto whitelist questions

2004-01-27 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:55 AM 1/27/2004, Mark Merchant wrote: i can get AWL working with regular spamassassin, but NOT with spamc/d. is there tip/trick i'm missing ? what -u parameters are you using? If you don't use -u, and both spamd and spamc are run as root, spamd will su itself to nobody for safety. On

Re: [SAtalk] How to increase score of this message?

2004-01-27 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:25 AM 1/27/04 -0800, Ricardo Kleemann wrote: How does the Bayes training work, anyway.. In short: First, you need to understand bayes is based on breaking email down into tokens. For simplicity, you can just consider each word of an email to be a token. SA uses other tokens (header

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn spamassassin question

2004-01-27 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:22 PM 1/27/04 +0100, jean-christophe valiere wrote: Hi, I've got a little problem with the mail that is attached. When I try spamassassin -t -D rulesrun=255 mail.txt it is nor considered as spam. So I do spamassassin -r -D rulesrun=255 mail.txt ans

Re: [SAtalk] How to increase score of this message?

2004-01-27 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:00 PM 1/26/04 -0800, ricardo wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions on how to possibly make SA get a higher score for this type of message? Any new recipes that might improve the scoring? Quite frankly, that email with all its mis-spelled words should be easy pickings for bayes. Train.

Re: [SAtalk] Re: X-Originating-IP isn't a number

2004-01-23 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:08 AM 1/23/04 -0600, Who Knows wrote: I have been receiving a good many of these lately. I am hestant to add any rules for them yet because all the ones I have been receiving seem to also contain a list of words that can only be there to spoil baysian tracking. Is there anyway to avoid

Re: [SAtalk] help please....cant stop them at all.

2004-01-23 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:16 AM 1/23/04 -0600, David B Funk wrote: Trim off the Bayes poison and relearn it as spam. The payload contains several unique misspellings that would be good Bayes signatures. Why trim off the bayes poison? Doing so just poisoning your bayes database in a different way.

[SAtalk] Re: AWL and whitelist question

2004-01-23 Thread Matt Kettler
At 04:40 PM 1/23/04 +0200, snowchyld wrote: how do you turn _off_ AWL ? Depends on version, but in 2.6x it is use_auto_whitelist 0 in your config also, where would one put sitewide whitelists ? (assuming /etc/mail/spamassassin as default directory) Any *.cf file in /etc/mail/spamassassin.

Re: [SAtalk] Where is auto_learn?

2004-01-23 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:39 AM 1/23/04 -0500, John Fleming wrote: Where is the auto_learn parameter - which file? tnx You can specify that value in ANY of the config files that SA parses. So there's no one specific file it belongs in. If you want to change the value on a site-wide basis, put it in

Re: [SAtalk] Auto-learn SA after having trained it

2004-01-23 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:19 AM 1/23/2004, Mark Squire wrote: Hi all, I have been training SA manually for a couple of weeks now. I estimate a good 2000 emails for both Spam and Ham have been learned by it. Coupla questions though . . . I want to put it into auto-learn mode because I have only trained it on a few of

RE: [SAtalk] doing a kind of ! whitelist_from_rcvd possible ?

2004-01-22 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:52 PM 1/21/2004, Mitch \(WebCob\) wrote: I've been told this can filter legitimate mail. Agreed Mitch.. if you read the rest of my message, I had a long warning about that. courier added a freemail concept, BUT, the yahoo servers send directly from the webmail appliances, which are not

[SAtalk] [RD] Antidrug 0.4 posted

2004-01-22 Thread Matt Kettler
I would have posted this sooner, but the editor I use on my home machine got mangled and won't run. (yay, time for a physical disk test). Changes: -Added an optional X to the end of the v-drug test, to catch another spelling. -Fixed a typo in the mis-spelled c-drug test. -added a few

Re: [SAtalk] Set up

2004-01-22 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:21 PM 1/21/04 -0600, George Matos wrote: I just got my domain name and am trying to setup spam assassin. I have never used it before so I was looking for some setup instructions etc. what kind of MTA (mailserver software) are you running? What OS/distro are you running it on?

Re: [SAtalk] Help: Still getting through the 2.62

2004-01-22 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:05 AM 1/22/2004, Thomas Kinghorn wrote: I have attached a few mails that are still getting through. These are scoring extremely low. The number of mails like these that slip through is on the increase. Any ideas as to how I can block them? I am using SA2.62, Exim 4.30 (with the exiscan

Re: [SAtalk] trouble sending mail to this list

2004-01-22 Thread Matt Kettler
Define refuses to send it to the list? Does it bounce, or has it just not shown up yet? The sourceforge.net lists are on occasion incredibly slow.. 4-hour posting delays are NOT unheard of, although uncommon. Just because it takes a while, don't assume it's not in the queue.. sf.net processes

Re: [SAtalk] Auto White-Lists

2004-01-22 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:49 PM 1/22/04 -0600, Chris wrote: I'm new to using spamassassin and have a question about auto white-listing. I have a file, auto-whitelist.db in my /var/spool/spamassassin directory however its empty. The file was created 6 days ago when I installed spamassassin. Should something be in

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin checks on Received headers (and RBL's such as RCVD_IN_SORBS)

2004-01-21 Thread Matt Kettler
At 04:33 PM 1/20/04 +0100, Ralf Vitasek wrote: i tested many things with the trusted users settings and googled around but i had no luck so far. except that i stumbled on a posting from this lists archive that makes me think that something is broken and that it would be fixed in the upcoming

Re: [SAtalk] This spam scores too low

2004-01-21 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:56 AM 1/21/04 +0100, Jürgen R. Plasser wrote: Is there any way to get rid (say: score 5) of those mails with SA? Some rules? I have SA 2.61 and the latest Bigevel rules installed. Well, antidrug is a good start. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mkettler/sa/antidrug.cf

Re: [SAtalk] bayes should ignore habeas headers?

2004-01-21 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:37 AM 1/21/04 -0500, Pedro Sam wrote: My question, should bayes ignore the habeas headers by default? Perhaps not by default, but right now it's probably a good idea. In general, any sudden shift of behavior from something commonly seen only in nonspam to commonly seen in both causes

Re: [SAtalk] 'spamassassin -d' not stripping SA reports from email

2004-01-21 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:41 PM 1/20/04 -0600, C. Bensend wrote: Is the problem that I'm _forwarding_ the tagged emails from one host to the other? I don't have the capability to bounce, I can only forward. A forwarded message is a brand new message. That brand new message is NOT sa tagged, even though it may

Re: [SAtalk] Spelling mistakes in spam

2004-01-21 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:51 AM 1/21/2004, Nicholson, Rob wrote: We've been looking and trialling No Spam Today which is based upon spamassasin. When we first tried it, it was catching probably 99% of all spam. However, over the past three months this figure has decreased noticeably. It appears to be because

Re: [SAtalk] missed spam?

2004-01-21 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:55 AM 1/21/2004, Paul Diaguila wrote: X-Spam-Score: 1.8 BAYES_30,HTML_60_70,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_02,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_BALANCE_BODY,MSGID_GOOD_EXCHANGE,OACYS_CONS_6,RM_rb_ANCHOR,RM_rb_BODY,RM_rb_HTML,RM_sl_Parens,SUBJECT_ENCODED_MY_TEST What am I missing? What version of SA are you

Re: [SAtalk] Not able to run sa-learn

2004-01-21 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:36 AM 1/21/2004, Jody Cleveland wrote: I'm running spamassassin 2.62 with MailScanner on redhat 9. What I'm trying to run is this: sa-learn -p /etc/MailScanner/spam.assassin.prefs.conf --spam --mbox /var/spool/mail/bayes But, it just sits there. Sa-learn --rebuild and --force-expire work

Re: [SAtalk] No To line in header

2004-01-21 Thread Matt Kettler
Well, your rule is pretty wildly off.. ToCc is going to look for a header named ToCc, not To headers and/or CC headers. header __TO_EXISTS exists:to header __CC_EXISTS exists:cc meta NO_TO_OR_NO_CC (!__TO_EXISTS || !__CC_EXISTS) Or perhaps you want meta

Re: [SAtalk] No To line in header

2004-01-21 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:02 PM 1/21/2004, st semps wrote: You see I thought that ToCc was valid. I thought I had read that somewhere. Obviously Im wrong. Actually, it apparently is valid.. my bad.. However, the string returned won't contain the To: or Cc: parts, just the email addresses.

RE: [SAtalk] Not able to run sa-learn

2004-01-21 Thread Matt Kettler
Correction: the rm should rm bayes.lock, not bayes_*.lock. My typo. At 01:41 PM 1/21/2004, Jody Cleveland wrote: Here's what I get: debug: Syncing Bayes journal and expiring old tokens... debug: lock: 21404 created /etc/MailScanner/bayes/bayes.lock.mystique.winnefox.org.21404 debug: lock: 21404

RE: [SAtalk] Not able to run sa-learn

2004-01-21 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:41 PM 1/21/2004, Jody Cleveland wrote: Here's what I get: debug: Syncing Bayes journal and expiring old tokens... debug: lock: 21404 created /etc/MailScanner/bayes/bayes.lock.mystique.winnefox.org.21404 debug: lock: 21404 trying to get lock on /etc/MailScanner/bayes/bayes with 0 retries The

Re: [SAtalk] Why won't SA see my user_prefs?

2004-01-21 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:00 PM 1/21/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The spam I was trying to catch doesn't seem to be going through the rules I added. What else do I have to do? I'd start off with a run of spamassassin --lint to make sure you don't have a typo. After that, if it still doesn't work check the debug

Re: [SAtalk] doing a kind of ! whitelist_from_rcvd possible ?

2004-01-21 Thread Matt Kettler
At 04:56 PM 1/21/2004, you wrote: Hi SA offers the possibility of having a smarter whitelist which whitelists only if the sending relay is related to the sending email, like whitelist_from_rcvd [EMAIL PROTECTED] example.com is there a possibility to somehow do the opposite, ie blacklist [EMAIL

Re: [SAtalk] Surprise mail from myself

2004-01-21 Thread Matt Kettler
Why not change your domain whitelist to a whitelist_from_rcvd command, instead of whitelist_from. You'll avoid the forgery problem outright. At 04:43 PM 1/21/2004, Brad Hazledine wrote: Has anyone written a rule that catches mail supposedly sent by yourself to yourself? Example here...

Re: [SAtalk] Surprise mail from myself

2004-01-21 Thread Matt Kettler
At 06:56 PM 1/21/2004, Kelson Vibber wrote: I suspect he did: At 04:43 PM 1/21/2004, Brad Hazledine wrote: However, the rule seems to pick up the by fargo.caledoncard.com in the header and thinks that all is well. No, he did not use whitelist_from_rcvd. If you bring in more context, rather than

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin checks on Received headers (and RBL's such as RCVD_IN_SORBS)

2004-01-20 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:02 PM 1/19/04 +0100, Anders Sveen wrote: I'm actually listed because it originates from a dynamic ip-range. Nothing more. It surprises me that they lists ip's for only beeing dynamic, but then I discovered the way RBLs are being used by mailservers and then it actually made sense. It

Re: [SAtalk] how many spam/ham do I have in my bayes db?

2004-01-20 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:27 PM 1/20/04 +, Adrian Simmons wrote: Is there an easy way to get a total of the spam/ham in the bayes db? I've noticed the total come up in the log when running SA in debug mode, and one could probably dump the db and go hunting for the magic numbers, but is there really nothing

Re: [SAtalk] Header Test (RBL) Question

2004-01-20 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:13 AM 1/20/04 -0500, David Roback wrote: debug: DNS MX records found: 0 snip Shouldn't I be seeing more than 1 query for all messages? Hmm.. looks like your DNS is flaking out.. I'm pretty sure you should always have at least one MX success from the DNS_AVAILABLE test... What happens

Re: [SAtalk] Custom Subject rules not being picked up

2004-01-20 Thread Matt Kettler
Are you sure you want that rule to be case sensitive, lower-case only? try header SUBJECT_VICODIN Subject =~ /\bvicodin\b/i (note the added i at the end) At 11:48 AM 1/20/04 +, David Logan wrote: header SUBJECT_VICODIN Subject =~ /\bvicodin\b/ describe SUBJECT_VICODIN Mentions vicodin

Re: [SAtalk] bigevil location

2004-01-20 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:49 AM 1/20/04 +0800, Fritz Mesedilla wrote: Hello folks! I wanted to update my bigevil list but when I did a locate on them I got this: /var/amavis/.spamassassin/bigevil.cf /etc/mail/spamassassin/bigevil.cf Now I really forgot where the correct location is. Both files are identical. I know

Re: [SAtalk] What's up with OPT_HEADER rule?

2004-01-20 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:54 PM 1/19/04 -0500, Barry Jaspan wrote: The OPT_HEADER (in 2.5x and 2.6x) rule does not make much sense to me: header __OPT_HEADER_SUBJALL =~ /^(?:Resent-)?Subject:.*opt.?(in|out|oem|ed|ion-in|[EMAIL PROTECTED])(?:\b|\d|\@)/im header __OPT_HEADER_ALL ALL =~

Re: [SAtalk] Schools Slapped? FVGT

2004-01-20 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:49 AM 1/20/04 -0600, Scott Williams , Area4 wrote: I just started using the FVGT rules and got this FP. Do I understand this right, the rule below penalizes (scores high) anyone with a .us domain? Yes, but it only penalizes them when used in a web-page link. Your From: address, etc won't

Re: [SAtalk] changing the description text of tagged messages

2004-01-20 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:50 AM 1/20/2004, Ricardo Kleemann wrote: Hi, How can I change the text that is included in tagged messages, that includes the servername and also includes my email address? perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf see the report and clear_report_template options. (note: don't edit 10_misc.cf..

[SAtalk] [RD] Antidrug 0.3 posted

2004-01-20 Thread Matt Kettler
Changes: -now catches some gapped-and-obfuscated v-words. on a test-list of 100 v-word spellings v 0.2 caught 37 of them. v 0.3 catches 65. more improvements in the works. (thanks for the list Gary) comments at top have a link to where the file comes from The ruleset is located at:

Re: [SAtalk] Enable localized rule descriptions

2004-01-20 Thread Matt Kettler
If you want your server to be in german, tell it. export LANG=de note: this may affect other programs on the system that are language-smart as well. At 12:01 PM 1/20/2004, Christopher Kunz wrote: just a quick question: How do I enable localized rule descriptions? There's a lot of german rule

Re: [SAtalk] SA-learn with multiple users

2004-01-20 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:14 PM 1/20/2004, Kenneth Andresen wrote: Will SA-learn filter all mails for everybody using the same rules, or how can it work with different rule set for each user/mail account? by default bayes databases and rulesets are specific to the user that executes SA (note: that's execution, which

Re: [SAtalk] Subjects not marked as spam anymore

2004-01-20 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:24 PM 1/20/2004, Pat Traynor wrote: Spamassassin a couple of times, and I have to suspect that a new version changed things. Is this something that I can configure somewhere? start off with spamassassin --lint I suspect you've got some old and invalid things like defang_mime that are

Re: [SAtalk] URI Rules

2004-01-20 Thread Matt Kettler
sounds like you're making your own version of bigevil.cf. Chris S found that memory usage was greatly reduced by using regex combos to reduce the number of rules. At 12:31 PM 1/20/2004, Dan Kennedy wrote: How efficient are URI rules? I am probably going to have several hundred of these rules,

Re: [SAtalk] Automated ruleset download

2004-01-20 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:52 PM 1/20/2004, JRiley wrote: Just curious, if there is a script (be it perl or otherwise), that anyone has written, that will perform an automated 'download' of the different SARE (or other) SA rulesets? I wouldn't think this would too difficult to do, and have a scheduled restart of

Re: [SAtalk] how many spam/ham do I have in my bayes db?

2004-01-20 Thread Matt Kettler
At 03:36 PM 1/20/2004, Adrian Simmons wrote: Ralf Vitasek wrote: in case you have SA 2.6x then just type sa-learn --dump magic Ah, yes, exactly. And now that I re-read the man page that seems obvious. I put my lack of understanding down to the non-intuitiveness of the term 'magic' :) Well, at

Re: [SAtalk] Dump bayes db please explain the columns

2004-01-19 Thread Matt Kettler
At 04:25 AM 1/19/2004, Mrvka Andreas wrote: hi, i've made a dump of my bayes db but i don't know exactly the columns. please explain them. thanks. Andrew Let's use this fictitious example line: 0.029 0 2 1071094490 word The above line indicates: 0.029: the calculated spam

Re: [SAtalk] Help with report pse

2004-01-19 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:40 AM 1/19/2004, John Fleming wrote: Does that use timing from the sender's computer time, ISP times, or what? It compares the date and time of the Date: header against the timestamps added into the Received: headers by the various mail relays. since the error is in the 6-12 hour range, I

Re: [SAtalk] /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf is ignored

2004-01-19 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:16 AM 1/19/2004, Claude Frantz wrote: But when messages are passed via sendmail (dual config) and amavis, the config file in /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf is not used. What is wrong here ? what signs of said failure are you seeing? Keep in mind that any spam-markup changes you apply to

Re: [SAtalk] habeas problems

2004-01-19 Thread Matt Kettler
One more suggestion, in addition to reducing the score for HABEAS_SWE, if you use bayes, I'd suggest telling bayes to ignore SWE headers. bayes_ignore_header X-Habeas-SWE-1 bayes_ignore_header X-Habeas-SWE-2 bayes_ignore_header X-Habeas-SWE-3 bayes_ignore_header X-Habeas-SWE-4

Re: [SAtalk] habeas problems

2004-01-19 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:27 AM 1/19/2004, Ron Culler wrote: I'm having problems with forged headers allowing email with the habeas tags. What is the best way to force a score for habeas tagged email? I use spamassassin with spamd and sql based user black/white lists but a common bayes db. put something similar to

Re: [SAtalk] Razor issue on Debian

2004-01-18 Thread Matt Kettler
At 03:02 PM 1/18/04 +0100, Erik van der Meulen wrote: I get: debug: Razor Agents 1.20, protocol version 2. razor 1.20 is a very old version of razor, and 1.x versions are no longer supported by SA. try getting razor 2.36 and applying the taint-safeness patch.

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin checks on Received headers (and RBL's such as RCVD_IN_SORBS)

2004-01-18 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:22 PM 1/18/04 +0100, PieterB wrote: What's the best practice preventing this? Changing SpamAssassin in some way, masquerading/munging Received-headers, or something else? 1) work with the RBL to get de-listed 2) change ISPs to move your IP to a different block. And that's about it.. The

RE: [SAtalk] [RD] antidrug 0.2 available

2004-01-18 Thread Matt Kettler
] On Behalf Of Matt Kettler Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 12:06 AM To: Spamassassin-Talk Subject: [SAtalk] [RD] antidrug 0.2 available Fixes a few minor issues: 1) corrected spelling of sildenafil citrate. 2) added vigara to the v-word mis-spelling list 3) added optional leading and trailing gap

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin checks on Received headers (and RBL's such as RCVD_IN_SORBS)

2004-01-18 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:23 PM 1/18/04 -0500, Gerry Doris wrote: My ip is listed in SORBS for the simple reason that it is in a dynamic block of addresses administered by my ISP. SORBS just states that I should use my ISP mail server which I already do. Since SORBS only adds 0.10 to the spamassassin total I'm not

RE: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin checks on Received headers (and RBL's such as RCVD_IN_SORBS)

2004-01-18 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:49 PM 1/18/04 -0800, Mitch \(WebCob\) wrote: Problem with this fix is it only fixes things for my users locally - when my users send mail to someone else, they would have to set the same networks as trusted. This is untrue.. What ALL affected admins must do is set trusted_networks to is

Re: [SAtalk] adding rules changes Bayes?

2004-01-16 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:56 AM 1/16/04 -0500, Theodore Heise wrote: cat tmp | formail -s sendmail theo Apparently this must process the mail differently than the normal receiving routine. If I use bounce in Pine, the Bayes results are approximately the same as before adding the new rules. I don't quite

Re: [SAtalk] Creating rules for the following

2004-01-16 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:03 AM 1/16/04 -0500, Segree, Gareth wrote: Text = Rule 1) Received: from [109.42.168.192] by 24.193.45.130 with HTTP = Received =~ /with HTTP/i That works.. 2) Subject: ?ISO-8859-1? = Subject =~ /(ISO-8859|iso-8859)/ (score = 3.0) Won't work.. that's a character encoding tag

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin Check

2004-01-16 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:03 AM 1/16/04 +0530, Rahul Baweja wrote: Hi, How can i check if the Spam Assassin is working or not? send yourself a GTUBE: http://www.spamassassin.org/gtube/ --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on

Re: [SAtalk] Failed to parse

2004-01-16 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:55 AM 1/16/2004, Michael H. Collins wrote: line in Spamassassin configuration, skipping: report_header 1 Failed to parse line in Spamassassin configuration, skipping: defang_mime 0 snip but it has been working for a couple of months through upgrades. And those lines look good in the

[SAtalk] [RD] Anti-drug.cf now available

2004-01-16 Thread Matt Kettler
Due to the fun of online pharmacies, I've made this ruleset in my spare time. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mkettler/sa/antidrug.cf It's not perfect, and needs some cleanup and some more obfuscated variants added in. However some of the rather abusive pill-spammers of late have made me decide

Re: [SAtalk] [RD] Anti-drug.cf now available

2004-01-16 Thread Matt Kettler
Due to the LARGE number of emails coming in citing the same suggestion, I'll publicly explain one of the rules. I very much on purpose did not use . for __DRUGS_MALEDYSFUNCTION7 and __DRUGS_MALEDYSFUNCTION8. I very purposefully match \W in one, and _ in the other. Between the two it will

Re: [SAtalk] Acronym Update

2004-01-16 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:13 PM 1/16/2004, Carl Chipman wrote: For the new people on the list, I was wondering what the following acronyms mean: LART Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool. See http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/L/LART.html UBE/UCE Unsolicited Bulk Email / Unsolicited Commercial Email.

Re: [SAtalk] RBL Check and logfile question

2004-01-16 Thread Matt Kettler
At 04:26 PM 1/16/2004, David Roback wrote: spamd[28929]: debug: RBL: success for 1 of 1 queries snip There is a line for a RBL query, but shouldn't the RBL tests shop up in the tests line in the debug log? If RBL is not running site wide, any ideas why? The thing that strikes me most about that

[SAtalk] [RD] antidrug 0.2 available

2004-01-16 Thread Matt Kettler
Fixes a few minor issues: 1) corrected spelling of sildenafil citrate. 2) added vigara to the v-word mis-spelling list 3) added optional leading and trailing gap-characters to the gapped versions of rules. 4) added some gapped and obfu versions of Cilais 5) added some commentary

Re: [SAtalk] HABEAS_SWE

2004-01-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:34 AM 1/15/04 -0500, Jeff Fulmer wrote: Why does HABEAS_SWE score -8.0? EVERYmessage that I recieve that matches that criteria is spam. I've since added 16 point to HABEAS_SWE. Read the archives of this list.. this has been discussed almost nonstop since the weekend... or read

Re: [SAtalk] Spam confuses bayes auto_learn

2004-01-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:14 AM 1/15/04 +0100, Gunther Heintzen wrote: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.6 required=3.9 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD2, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham version=2.61 It should be autolearn=no because hits=2.6 ist beetween 0.1 and 12.0 Autolearning is not based on the normal message score, it's based

Re: [SAtalk] what can we do with those spam mails

2004-01-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:49 AM 1/15/04 +0100, Sönke Ruempler wrote: I wonder if i can to something against these spam messages: Simple starting things to check (if you're not already doing them) 1) use razor, dcc and/or pyzor. 2) Make sure your bayes is heavily trained (really, this batch of poison has not been

Re: [SAtalk] Books...

2004-01-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:50 AM 1/15/2004, Tim B wrote: Hey does anyone know if there are any spamassassin books comming out? None that I'm aware of. I've been thinking of writing more guides to go with the rule-writing guide I made, but haven't started yet.

Re: [SAtalk] is spamassassin poisoning my mail spool?

2004-01-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:11 AM 1/15/2004, Adrian Simmons wrote: I have a setup involving procmail, SA and Razor, at the moment, every time I do a razor-report (with | /usr/bin/spamassassin -r in my procmailrc) my mail spool gets poisoned with something like this: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61

Re: [SAtalk] disembodied emails

2004-01-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:59 PM 1/15/2004, Pierre Thomson wrote: For some reason, my users don't like to receive these non-communications. They slip right past SA with only a BAYES_99 penalty, not enough to stop them. I could add a SUBJECT_MISSING test but it can't have a high score; any other bright ideas?

Re: [SAtalk] Delete vs tagging spam

2004-01-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 04:01 PM 1/15/2004, Andrew Cranson wrote: Would it be possible for an additional mysql preferance for a threshold to be added to an upcoming spamassassin release for mail deletion? e.g. A user sets required_hits to 5, and sets deletion_hits to 10, any mail between 5 and 10 is tagged, anything

Re: [SAtalk] Help needed with url rule

2004-01-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:23 PM 1/15/2004, Brian Ipsen wrote: What would a rule look like to match a pattern like (I've read a little about matching, but not enough to get it working): http://(anything).(com|net|org|info)?rid=[0-9]{1,5} use the uri ruletype.. it will only search within web links: uri MY_URI_RULE

Re: [SAtalk] adding rules changes Bayes?

2004-01-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:01 PM 1/15/2004, Theodore Heise wrote: My problem is that now Bayes doesn't seem to be working right, as if SA is ignoring my learned tokens? It also seems to be now missing some rules that I presume are default (e.g., MSGID_FROM_MTA_SHORT, PRIORITY_NO_NAME, and CLICK_BELOW) The results

Re: [SAtalk] is spamassassin poisoning my mail spool?

2004-01-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:05 PM 1/15/2004, Adrian Simmons wrote: After running SA with the -D switch when reporting it looks like there might be some problems with my Razor installation: Jan 15 12:29:55.046480 report[14997]: [ 6] computing sigs for mail 1.0, len 9577 Jan 15 1razor2 report failed: Bad file

Re: [SAtalk] Fw: Help!!

2004-01-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 06:49 PM 1/15/2004, Alice Pawlowich wrote: Can someone please help me to remove, unsubscribe or disable the spam assassin? I am a new computer owner and really didn't know what I was getting into. But do know that I opened an attachment that contained a virus. I open a lot off these spam

Re: [SAtalk] not catching spam email yet

2004-01-14 Thread Matt Kettler
At 03:19 PM 1/14/04 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. edited /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf as follows required_hits 6.0 rewrite_subject 1 report_header 1 use_terse_report 1 defang_mime 1 dns_available yes dcc_add_header 1 use_dcc 1 What version of SA are you using? defang_mime is illegal in any

Re: [SAtalk] unfakeable Habeas watermark?

2004-01-14 Thread Matt Kettler
Yes, it is theoretically possible to do what you suggest.. The first drawback is resources...Habeas would have a fairly heavy-duty server to generate and validate the signatures.. CPU time might be cheap on a single-user machine, but when you're talking about global scales, a little bit of

Re: [SAtalk] Unwanted Language in body (Norwegian char)

2004-01-14 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:15 AM 1/14/04 +0100, Jan Erik Skogsholm wrote: Some Norwegian character will come out with errors and we got 2.8 points from the language test. Is it possible to add this chars to a list for the Norwegian language? Not sure how, but there appears to be a database called 'languages' in the

Re: [SAtalk] body match

2004-01-14 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:48 AM 1/14/04 -0500, Jeff Fulmer wrote: I'd like to assign spam points to any message whose body does not contain any one of several keywords. But unfortunately, I can't find a body directive reads all body attachments. I tried body and rawbody but there are still many body attachments

Re: [SAtalk] body match

2004-01-14 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:20 AM 1/14/04 -0500, Jeff Fulmer wrote: No. I wouldn't expect it to read PDFs. For example, just now it didn't read these types: [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 8bit, Size: 1.7K --] [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 2.3K --] [-- Type: text/html, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 4.3K --]

Re: [SAtalk] Start Trek Darmok at Tanagra subjects

2004-01-14 Thread Matt Kettler
Some examples: Re: FQCDW, thousand years waiting Yes, I've seen them.. my bayes training is chewing them up... DNSBLs and the popcorn rules seem helpful too. Note that I personally run the popcorn ruleset collapsed into one rule. It contributes less score overall because it doesn't cascade,

Re: [SAtalk] mPOP Web-Mail 2.19: ratware?

2004-01-14 Thread Matt Kettler
At 03:57 PM 12/19/2003, Kenneth Porter wrote: I'm seeing a lot of spam with this as the X-Mailer. Is this a real program or ratware? (better late reply than never). This seems to be a somewhat uncommon, but is occasionally used for legitimate mail (I've only seen it used by Russian posters).

RE: [SAtalk] FP with backhair

2004-01-14 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:44 PM 1/14/2004, Gary Funck wrote: I'd asked this before (with no answer on the 'dev' list), Not surprising.. unless it's part of active development work ie: discussion of methods to fix a bug, coding, test results, etc, a post of a general question to sadev will generally be ignored as

Re: [SAtalk] unsubscribe f1g4zz0 giochi@telvia.it

2004-01-14 Thread Matt Kettler
General guidance for unsubscribing yourself from a sorceforge list. First, find the List-Unsubscribe header embedded in any post to the list. Such as the one below for this list. List-Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk If your mailclient is brain dead

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