RE: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-17 Thread Gary Funck


 -Original Message-
 From: Frank Pineau
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 3:06 PM
 
 On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 21:56:20 -0600, you wrote:
 
 I don't mean to drag this too far off-topic, but I'm a little curious.  
 What happened about two-thirds
 of the way after 02/01 that increased the distribution of negatively 
 scoring spam?
 
 SA 2.5x  ;-)
 

Nerd alert: Maybe auto-whitelisting was enabled (producing negative scoreds)?



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Re: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-17 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
 Nerd alert: Maybe auto-whitelisting was enabled (producing negative
scoreds)?

I beg your pardon.  I sometimes have the tendency to completely ignore the
obvious :-p



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Re: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-17 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
 Heh. Prob. the nerd alert was a bit ambiguous; just meant as a way to
 describe the tekkie detail of the topic. - Gary

See?  This is the problem with e-mail -- if you forget smilies, sometimes
it's hard to read tongue-in-cheek messages correctly ;-)

Ahh well, all in good fun.  It's my fault for neglecting the obvious anyway.
I guess I spent so much time reading docs of various sorts to get PHP to do
something it really shouldn't do that my brain just decided to jump out,
scream, and run away ;-)




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Re: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-17 Thread Frank Pineau


On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Benjamin A. Shelton wrote:

  Nerd alert: Maybe auto-whitelisting was enabled (producing negative
 scoreds)?

 I beg your pardon.  I sometimes have the tendency to completely ignore the
 obvious :-p


Nonsense.  I told you why it had a sudden increase in negative scores.  It
was because I installed 2.5x.


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Re: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-17 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
 Nonsense.  I told you why it had a sudden increase in negative scores.  It
 was because I installed 2.5x.

Hi Frank,

I missed your reply, unfortunately.  Although, I think everyone else did to
:-(

My apologies!




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Re: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-17 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
 Hmmm... How much negative score should smileys get... ;)

;-)

Well, with the changes I've read about that are due to be released in 2.60,
I almost can't wait!




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RE: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-17 Thread Joe Julian
Hmmm... How much negative score should smileys get... ;)

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  Heh. Prob. the nerd alert was a bit ambiguous; just meant 
 as a way 
  to describe the tekkie detail of the topic. - Gary
 
 See?  This is the problem with e-mail -- if you forget 
 smilies, sometimes it's hard to read tongue-in-cheek messages 
 correctly ;-)
 
 Ahh well, all in good fun.  It's my fault for neglecting the 
 obvious anyway. I guess I spent so much time reading docs of 
 various sorts to get PHP to do something it really shouldn't 
 do that my brain just decided to jump out, scream, and run away ;-)
 
 
 
 
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Re: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-16 Thread Frank Pineau
On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 21:56:20 -0600, you wrote:

I don't mean to drag this too far off-topic, but I'm a little curious.  
What happened about two-thirds
of the way after 02/01 that increased the distribution of negatively 
scoring spam?

SA 2.5x  ;-)


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Re: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-15 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton


If you like, please let me know what you would do to improve it based on
that. I should be ready to release code in the next couple of days
(honestly its alright, but I need to get copyright messages and a decent
README into it).

Clint,

That looks pretty darn awesome!!! It's amazing just how much different
the impact of numbers versus graphs can be (I shouldn't be amazed, but I
am nevertheless).

I know this is probably a bit silly suggestion-wise, but would it be at
all possible or even useful to include a graph representing the
``spammyness'' (or non-spammyness) of messages? I'm sure that would be
pretty useless, but I'm always curious to see just how spammy some of
the really obvious messages are when they finally come through my
mailserver...

Keep up the great work! I love those graphs! :-)

~Benjamin
(I don't mean to shout, but that's my $0.02 worth.)




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Re: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-15 Thread Frank Pineau
On 15 Jun 2003 19:40:03 -0700, you wrote:

I'm cleaning up the code for both for a full release. If you want to
check out the graphs from spamrrd though, you can go to

http://spamaps.org/spamrrd/


I like it.  Another respondant mentioned graphing the scores as well.  Someone
else on this list gave me a script they use to plot scores with gnuplot (see
attachment).  I'd rather have it in an RRD database, though, but I haven't
gotten around to porting it yet.  I'd be interested in seeing your code.


scores.png
Description: Binary data


Re: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-15 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton


I like it.  Another respondant mentioned graphing the scores as well.  Someone
else on this list gave me a script they use to plot scores with gnuplot (see
attachment).  I'd rather have it in an RRD database, though, but I haven't
gotten around to porting it yet.  I'd be interested in seeing your code.
 

I don't mean to drag this too far off-topic, but I'm a little curious.  
What happened about two-thirds
of the way after 02/01 that increased the distribution of negatively 
scoring spam?



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Re: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-15 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 07:40:03PM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote:
 Hey guys. I just subscribed to the list, but have been reading the
 archives for a while. I'm aware of some of the other spamd stat
 reporters out there. I have written two more. One, spamdstats, is a perl
 script that reports stats by user, and by date. The other, spamrrd,
 makes graphs of spam over time, using rrdtool.
 
 I'm cleaning up the code for both for a full release. If you want to
 check out the graphs from spamrrd though, you can go to
 
 http://spamaps.org/spamrrd/
 
 If you like, please let me know what you would do to improve it based on
 that. I should be ready to release code in the next couple of days
 (honestly its alright, but I need to get copyright messages and a decent
 README into it).

Great!

I've been looking for something like this.  Thought I love RRD, I
didn't want to spend the time to write it.  And I've been collecting
hisorical data for months now--I just haven't bothered to graph it.

Let us know when the code's up. :-)

Jeremy
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