Re: [SAtalk] We TEACH you how to SPAM and make a Fortune!!

2003-06-18 Thread Jonathan Vanasco

I've been looking at Sugarplum spam poison and teergrube/tar pitting, 
but
the gurus on this list seem to thing neither is a good thing.
fuck that.  how about this?
1) hack their server
2) upload a shitload of metallica  tracks
3) call the riaa


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RE: [SAtalk] We TEACH you how to SPAM and make a Fortune!!

2003-06-18 Thread Chris Santerre


 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan Vanasco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 12:38 PM
 To: Jim Ford
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [SAtalk] We TEACH you how to SPAM and make a Fortune!!
 
 
 
  I've been looking at Sugarplum spam poison and 
 teergrube/tar pitting, 
  but
  the gurus on this list seem to thing neither is a good thing.
 
 fuck that.  how about this?
 1) hack their server
 2) upload a shitload of metallica  tracks
 3) call the riaa
 
 

 BWahahahahah! The sad thing is they would get in more trouble for that then
they ever will for the spamming! :) 

Those 3 million emails were legit judge!

No son, your going to jail for your copy of Enter the Sandman.

:)


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Re: [SAtalk] We TEACH you how to SPAM and make a Fortune!!

2003-06-17 Thread Matthew Cline
Heh.  Heh.  Snicker.  BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

 ANTI-SPAMMER-PROOF

Really?  It scored 34.6 for me, or 26.5 with network tests off.

 We are directly responsible for up to 70% of the online Viagra and Pharmacy 
 E-Mail SPAM generated sales on the net today

Burn them!  Burn them!!

-- 
Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on
fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

Advanced SPAM filtering software: http://spamassassin.org



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Re: [SAtalk] We TEACH you how to SPAM and make a Fortune!!

2003-06-17 Thread Kelson Vibber
Matthew Cline wrote:
Heh.  Heh.  Snicker.  BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
Exactly!

I saw essentially the same spam a couple of weeks ago - it was dripping 
with so much arrogance and disregard for the people stuck receiving their 
garbage that I couldn't quite make up my mind whether it was a real spam 
or a parody.

It reminded me of the Good Times virus parody (about how it would erase 
your credit cards and curdle the milk in your fridge) or the ultimate chain 
letter (which tied in everything from the Bill Gates email tracking contest 
to waking up in Las Vegas without a kidney - and I heard it from a friend 
who heard it from his third cousin twice removed who heard it from her 
hairdresser's roommate, so it MUST be true!)

Kelson Vibber
SpeedGate Communications www.speed.net 



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Re: [SAtalk] We TEACH you how to SPAM and make a Fortune!!

2003-06-17 Thread Mike Vanecek
Does any forward the spam messages to this list to organizations such as
spamcop, and so on?

If all we can do is filter the turkey with SA and not shut him down, then what
is the use of it?

I am beginning to think that the collective efforts of many organizations to
shut down spammers is a dismal failure. I have been doing the anti-spam thing
for a real long time and, if anything, the spam has steadily increased over
the years rather than decreased. Until radical changes are made to the
infrastructure of the internet to shut down open relays and proxies as well as
header validation spam will continue. The spammer that sent this spam claims
to be bullet proof. I suspect that with sufficient funds, he is telling the truth.

Spam costs me in bandwidth, CPU time, and psychic energy. 

I am toying around with the idea that since collective anti-spam measures to
shut down spammers are not working, then individuals need to be able to reduce
the impact of spam on their individual accounts. I may not be able to reduce
the bandwidth and CPU time cost, but maybe it is time to reduce the psychic
energy cost?

First draft strategy, execute the following in order on all incoming mail:

Rule 1: Check incoming mail against a whitelist (based on From, To, and/or
Subject). If in whitelist, pass it on, and stop checking.

Rule 2: Check incoming mail against a blacklist (based on From, To, and/or
Subject). If in blacklist, discard, and stop checking.

Rule 3: Check incoming mail against the SA hit level. If above a Hit level,
move the mail to a spam folder for manual checking, and stop checking. Over
time, this rule should refine the whitelist and blacklist and could be changed
to simply discard.

Rule 4: Check incoming mail against the SA hit level. If equal to or below the
Hit level, forward the message back to the from or reply to address with the
following message,

Your email is being returned by an automatic spam detection system. If you
still wish to send this message to the recipient, please add the following
code XXXNNN to your subject line and resend the message. We apologize for any
inconvenience this may cause you; however, it is necessary due to the large
amount of spam now found on the internet. Once this process if completed, your
address will be added to a list of valid addresses and you will not need to do
this again.

Ideally, the forwarding from address should be in the blacklist so any replies
to that address will be discarded.



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