[spring] SRm6: Motivation?

2019-11-17 Thread Darren Dukes (ddukes)
Hi Ron, to follow up on what was said at the mic. The current community analysis, comparing existing solutions (SRv6 and SR-MPLS for IPv6) with SRm6, had the following result: - a lot of differences (Architecture, Dataplane, Controlplane) and hence engineering cost - scale, performance and

Re: [spring] IETF 106 SPRING WG Agenda uploaded

2019-11-17 Thread Zafar Ali (zali)
Hi, Thanks, looks good! Regards … Zafar From: spring on behalf of "Pengshuping (Peng Shuping)" Date: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 at 6:26 PM To: "spring@ietf.org" Cc: "spring-cha...@ietf.org" Subject: [spring] IETF 106 SPRING WG Agenda uploaded Hi all, The SPRING WG agenda is now available

[spring] What needs to be renamed -- Re: draft-bonica-spring-srv6-plus: Renaming

2019-11-17 Thread Loa Andersson
Ron, I don't understand why changing the filename should be an issue, isn't it the title of the document that needs to be changed? And the approximately 100 time the term "SRv6+" is used in the document. /Loa On 18/11/2019 12:05, Ron Bonica wrote: Darren, No problem. We will change the

Re: [spring] draft-bonica-spring-srv6-plus: Renaming

2019-11-17 Thread Ron Bonica
Darren, No problem. We will change the filename next time we update the document. Ron Juniper Business Use Only -Original Message- From: Darren Dukes (ddukes) Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 8:36 PM To: Ron Bonica Cc: SPRING WG ;

[spring] draft-bonica-spring-srv6-plus: Renaming

2019-11-17 Thread Darren Dukes (ddukes)
Hi Ron and SRm6 authors. The use of the name “SRv6+” is still causing confusion amongst the community, and even during presentations by the authors of this series of drafts (eg NANOG). It needs to be changed in the doc names and removed from further presentations. This was promised in this

Re: [spring] draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy

2019-11-17 Thread Siva Sivabalan (msiva)
SPRING-WG: Posted a new version (05) of “draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy” draft addressing the agreed upon changes. Thanks, Siva From: bruno.decra...@orange.com Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 5:29 AM To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: SPRING WG List Subject: RE:

Re: [spring] SPRING SRv6 Deployment Status draft

2019-11-17 Thread Satoru Matsushima
Hi David, Shuping, As your inputs, Marvel and MTN cases have been captured in the SRv6 deployment status draft. Please check it out from the following i-d announce. Thank you for your contribution! Best regards, --satoru > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts

Re: [spring] The SPRING WG has placed draft-voyer-spring-sr-replication-segment in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

2019-11-17 Thread Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Hi Greg, all, Please see zzh> below. From: Greg Mirsky Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 7:07 PM To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: John E Drake ; spring@ietf.org; Alexander Vainshtein ; draft-voyer-spring-sr-replication-segment.auth...@ietf.org; Robert Raszuk ;

Re: [spring] The SPRING WG has placed draft-voyer-spring-sr-replication-segment in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

2019-11-17 Thread Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Hi Sasha, Please see zzh> below. From: Alexander Vainshtein Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 11:25 AM To: Greg Mirsky ; Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: John E Drake ; spring@ietf.org; draft-voyer-spring-sr-replication-segment.auth...@ietf.org; Robert Raszuk ; (spring-cha...@tools.ietf.org)

Re: [spring] The SPRING WG has placed draft-voyer-spring-sr-replication-segment in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

2019-11-17 Thread Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Hi Sasha, Ketan, Greg, John, all, I hope my email (attached) in response to Sasha’s original email, answers many questions brought up in this thread. Thanks. Jeffrey From: Alexander Vainshtein Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:00 PM To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: John E Drake ;

Re: [spring] The SPRING WG has placed draft-voyer-spring-sr-replication-segment in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

2019-11-17 Thread Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Hi, Please see some clarifications below. -Original Message- From: Alexander Vainshtein Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 5:12 PM To: (spring-cha...@tools.ietf.org) ; draft-voyer-spring-sr-replication-segment.auth...@ietf.org Cc: spring@ietf.org Subject: RE: [spring] The SPRING WG

[spring] I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy-05.txt

2019-11-17 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Source Packet Routing in Networking WG of the IETF. Title : Segment Routing Policy Architecture Authors : Clarence Filsfils

Re: [spring] The SPRING WG has placed draft-voyer-spring-sr-replication-segment in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

2019-11-17 Thread Greg Mirsky
Hi Ketan, thank you for your thoughtful consideration of my comment. In the draft-voyer-spring-sr-replication-segment I find the following statement: A Replication segment at ingress node of Multi-point service replicates packets directly to each egress node of the service, without need

Re: [spring] The SPRING WG has placed draft-voyer-spring-sr-replication-segment in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

2019-11-17 Thread John E Drake
Hi, Given that this draft, gratuitously, ignores all of the aspects of SR multicast that need to be considered, it would be ill-advised to consider advancing it. John Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) wrote:  Hi Greg, Please check inline. From:

Re: [spring] The SPRING WG has placed draft-voyer-spring-sr-replication-segment in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

2019-11-17 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
Ketan, Lots of thanks for a prompt and encouraging response. I will try to provide additional inputs missing architectural issues related to the Replication Segment draft. Regarding Path Segment that has been recently introduced by the WG – I am fully aware of this work. From my POV this

Re: [spring] The SPRING WG has placed draft-voyer-spring-sr-replication-segment in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

2019-11-17 Thread John E Drake
It appears that we are putting the cart before the horse and trying to pretend otherwise Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) wrote:  Hi Greg, Please check inline. From: Greg Mirsky Sent: 17 November 2019 13:14 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: John

Re: [spring] The SPRING WG has placed draft-voyer-spring-sr-replication-segment in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

2019-11-17 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Greg, Please check inline. From: Greg Mirsky Sent: 17 November 2019 13:14 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: John E Drake ; spring@ietf.org; Alexander Vainshtein ; draft-voyer-spring-sr-replication-segment.auth...@ietf.org; Robert Raszuk ; (spring-cha...@tools.ietf.org) Subject: Re:

Re: [spring] The SPRING WG has placed draft-voyer-spring-sr-replication-segment in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

2019-11-17 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Sasha, Thanks for your clarifications and it helps a lot. It might help further if you could share your thoughts on what content you find missing from an architecture POV beyond what is already in the draft-voyer-spring-sr-replication-segment. I note that we, as the WG, have recently