Anybody have experience with SPP Pumps? I've never used them but I client is
considering. Any thoughts? (public or private)
Todd G. Williams, PE
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, CT
860.535.2080
www.fpdc.com
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We just specified and tested one without any problems.
Scott Futrell
(763) 425-1001 Office
(612) 759-5556 Cell
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good pumps, have not had or heard of any problems.
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Richard Carr, SET
Todd Williams t...@fpdc.com wrote:
Anybody have experience with SPP Pumps? I've never used them but I client is
considering. Any thoughts? (public or private)
Todd G. Williams, PE
Fire Protection
I believe they are one of the oldest and largest mfrs and wouldn't be overly
concerned.
If there were numerous problems, one would think they wouldn't get the
UL/FM/VDS approvals.
However, I do recall in the early 80's there was a mfr (NOT SPP!!) that was a
bit premature in getting the FM mark
Been using and speccing them for 25 years - first class company with great
products which have virtually universal listings and approvals.
They are particularly responsive to providing non-standard pumps for unusual
uses/locations
Stewart
On 19 Apr 2011, at 14:48, rca...@triad.rr.com
neighbor's house. She said they were friendly, always waving to
neighbors, but otherwise kept to themselves
http://www.app.com/article/20110419/NJNEWS/110419008/Middletown-house-fire-l
eaves-four-dead?odyssey=mod|breaking|text|Frontpage
John Drucker
Fire Protection Subcode Official
Red Bank, New
I think this was talked about but I couldn't find it in the archives.
I have a noncombustible tenant spec building that currently has upright
sprinklers installed.
I am going to use the existing sprinkler outlets to supply the areas
with finished ceilings.
Is there somewhere in NFPA or IBC/IFC
, who also lives across the street, said she
knew the family from parties they would attend together at another neighbor's
house. She said they were friendly, always waving to neighbors, but otherwise
kept to themselves
http://www.app.com/article/20110419/NJNEWS/110419008/Middletown-house-fire-l
Dewayne,
IBC 901.2(2006) allows for a non required system to be installed or
remain as it exists, but it is required to meet the code requirements.
If you remove any uprights then you will need to remove all of them that
are located in the non combustible concealed space.
Dale F. Wingard, SET
Thanks Dale,
Since sprinklers are not required in this space per code, why couldn't
you leave some in? You are still complying with code.
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I do not know of any code that says you must take them out. I would however
either take them all out or leave them all in. Do not leave an area that
does not meet code (or could be easily confused as not meeting code).
Leaving a few of the uprights can give the 'illusion' of a non-compliant
That's what I am trying to preach to my office. I don't want any
confusion about what is up there. Someone could take a quick look and
see a few upright sprinklers and assume the it is fully protected above.
Thanks
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Or conversely they could see a few heads here and there and wonder what in the
world you were thinking of with that spacing?
If the space above the ceiling doesn't require any sprinklers it would be best
to remove all, use the outlets you need and cap the unused ones. Revise the
riser tag and
Ok, so why NOT leave them in there in case for some reason they are NEEDED (as
opposed to required)?
Doesn't make sense (except as you noted, an illusion of coverage) to spend
money to remove protection.
A couple years from now they could have a roof leak, tiles are pulled, a week
later
I believe in the original scenario the building is required to be
sprinklered, so the system must be code compliant. Now it may be a grey area
as to whether having full protection below the ceiling and partial
protection above is code compliant.
I have done very few voluntary designs in the past.
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