Thank you for the responses I received. Based on this information I have
asked the Architect to review once more his review.
BTW the 2020 NYSBC codes are the documents being used.
Regards,
G. Tim Stone
G. Tim Stone Consulting, LLC
NICET Level III Engineering Technician
Fire Protection Sprinkler
Good call Sal; as I said in my response, it's up to the Building Official to
clarify whether that separation has to be two or three hours. But a solid
concrete slab makes that a fairly easy exercise and the only upgrades would be
the ratings of fire stops because shafts for utilities and
Gentlemen,
The way we would interpret this in Florida per the "Florida Fire Prevention
Code" would be based on the height of the top "Floor Level". I think at the
least you are looking at 13 for the garage level, 13R for the Residential
Levels, and an "Manual Wet" Standpipe System, using Fire
Hope all is well with everyone.
Building codes are typically very clear on what characterizes a building to
be separate and distinct. Either build a building by itself, build multiple
buildings and separate by fire separation distance is specified by the
code, build two buildings right smack up
Agreed, Taylor.
Thanks, but not in FlameGuard Sprinkler Piping Products.
Scott
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I'm guessing its 1" slip x 1/2 thread. On the subject, is it orange/FP pipe
Scott? I've never seen a slip to thread that didn’t' use some metal whether
it’s the lead in thread ala Brastic or the ring around the outside ala spears.
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Look at spears data
Flame guard fittings
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Seems silly that a
Seems silly that a threaded female x threaded female fitting in CPVC would even
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Tim,
If you have the handbook the next page actually talks about this with a
"Closer Look" at the height limitations. (2016 - Pg201)
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Dane Long, AET
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Steve,
That is exactly what the Architect that I am working for told me. The two
hour Horizontal separation between the floors make this 2 separate
buildings.
Thank you.
Regards,
G. Tim Stone
G. Tim Stone Consulting, LLC
NICET Level III Engineering Technician
Fire Protection Sprinkler Design
Is there a Code information sheet from the architect? Check to see what
allowances have been taken.
Is the separation enough for this to be treated as two buildings or is it a
single building?
My gut answer says no to 13R but the differences in construction could make a
Assuming the building code that's applicable to this project classifies this as
two separate buildings (a four-story Type 3 on a single-story Type 1 podium),
NFPA 13R can be used as a basis of design in many (most?) jurisdictions. It
is up to the building official to clarify whether a two- or
Am I reading the Scope of 13R correctly?
I am designing a Sprinkler system for a building which is five stories in
height. Each floor is about 5,500 SF. The Ground floor is a parking garage
of concrete & steel (Type 1a construction) with 4 stories of Residential
above which constructed of wood
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