[Sprinklerforum] Re: Low Decks

2023-03-08 Thread Taylor Schumacher
That’s kind of the track I was going down but didn’t think it fit well because of the “non-combustible overhang” and “tight construction” phrasing. I like Rick’s thoughts about limiting the debris accumulation. Minnesota has an amended fire code that addresses 13R decks and the cutoff is 6

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Low Decks

2023-03-08 Thread Eric Rieve
Taylor, Rick is on the right track on this. Check out 9.2.2 in NFPA 13-2019. This section allows sprinkler omissions from underneath ground floors, exterior docks, and platforms, with your decks likely falling into the platform category. There are a few requirements, one being that the area is

[Sprinklerforum] Re: HVLS Fans

2023-03-08 Thread matthew.willis1
Follow-up… When first introduced, there was no stipulated max fan width. What happens at greater than 24 feet? R/ Matt Please rate our customer service Matthew J. Willis, CWBSP, CET Engineering Designer IV FERGUSON

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Low Decks

2023-03-08 Thread Rick Matsuda
As an old AHJ, I would require you to screen in any unsprinklered decks that are permitted to prevent accumulation of debris beneath them. Rick Matsuda > On Mar 8, 2023, at 9:04 AM, matthew.will...@ferguson.com wrote: > >  > This seems like one of those great communication with AHJ/Owner

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Low Decks

2023-03-08 Thread matthew.willis1
This seems like one of those great communication with AHJ/Owner opportunities. A deck is an exterior projection. I am assuming the deck is wood, and no fire-resistant stuff. The only thing height wise is the 24" for obstructions over 4 feet, and the 48" for stages, with stipulations. IMHO,

[Sprinklerforum] Re: - NFPA13:2022 pdf version

2023-03-08 Thread Bob Caputo
I am a long-time member of NFPA 13 and 25 committees and also an instructor for NFPA so I am very familiar with their processes and direction. I know you are a long way from the USA, but membership in our organization is inexpensive and gives you access to our technical services department for

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Low Decks

2023-03-08 Thread Mike Morey
>From 13-2022: 9.5.5.3.1.5 Sprinklers shall not be required below noncombustible obstructions over 4 ft (1.2 m) wide where the bottom of the obstruction is 24 in. (600 mm) or less above the floor or deck. Mike Morey CFPS 3229 * NICET S.E.T. 123677 Project Manager * Fire Protection Group

[Sprinklerforum] Re: - NFPA13:2022 pdf version

2023-03-08 Thread John Denhardt
Agree - I used to enjoy PDFs. I cringed when I heard they were leaving but I understand why NFPA was discontinuing them. We switched to Link and I like the features and access. NFPA has done a great job with Link. Try it out, with a free trial and I feel you will not be disappointed. Thanks,

[Sprinklerforum] Low Decks

2023-03-08 Thread Taylor Schumacher
Is there any guidance on sprinkler protection under decks that are really close to finished grade? I have a 13 project with combustible decks that range from 1 foot to 8 foot above finished grade. Common sense tells me these short ones won't allow spray pattern development and replacing/testing