Yes, there is a roof deck above that is sprinklered. I have put
sprinklers below the grating using shields on the sprinklers. Just
second guessing myself.
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On 4/12/2024 4:41 PM, Bob Knight wrote:
I have
Sounds to me like the thickness of the material nor the depth of the material
can exceed the least dimension of the opening. Are your sprinklers above the
grating?
9.3.10*<https://link.nfpa.org/publications/13/2019/annexes/A/groups/9#ID000130005688>
Open-Grid Ceilings.
Open-grid ce
I have an area that has Steel Grating that is 1/4" x 1-1/2". The
openings are 15/16" x 3 3/4".
When A.3.3.41.2(2) {2019 ED} states "the thickness of the ceiling
material does not exceed the least dimension of the openings", is this
referring to the depth of th
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Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: Metal Grating Clip for Fire Sprinkler Pipe Hanger
We have done many document storage facilities like an Iron mountain. With over
10 levels of isle protection. All our pipe hangs off the grate from the floor
above. When I call my supplier I call the “
ril 26, 2022 3:01 PM
To: 'Tom Wellen' ; sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: Metal Grating Clip for Fire Sprinkler Pipe Hanger
The Hanger chapter in NFPA 13 only mentions the structure. I don’t believe it
was the intention to allow attachments to grated floor s
Metal Grating Clip for Fire Sprinkler Pipe Hanger
I ran into an installation where the ring hanger was attached to the metal
grating to support sprinkler pipe below. I'm trying to find the right way to
support the fire sprinkler pipe. I searched several manufacturers, but I don't
see
26, 2022 at 12:47 PM Chris Dorn <
chris.d...@dornfireprotection.com> wrote:
> We have used stove bolts with a large head and a long thread. That
> minimizes the possibility of a trip hazard as there is only a small bump on
> top of the grating.
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> Christopher Dorn
> Dorn
We have used stove bolts with a large head and a long thread. That minimizes
the possibility of a trip hazard as there is only a small bump on top of the
grating.
Christopher Dorn
Dorn Fire Protection LLC
4132 Dumont Street #4
Cincinnati, Ohio 45226
(513) 295-2499
On Apr 26, 2022, at 2:46 PM
ch to the grating? Toggle
> hangers?
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> *From:* Tom Wellen
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 26, 2022 12:45 PM
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> *Subject:* [Sprinklerforum] Metal Grating
Not sure you will find one. How did they attach to the grating? Toggle hangers?
Taylor Schumacher CET
From: Tom Wellen
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2022 12:45 PM
To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Metal Grating Clip for Fire Sprinkler Pipe Hanger
I ran into an
I ran into an installation where the ring hanger was attached to the metal
grating to support sprinkler pipe below. I'm trying to find the right way
to support the fire sprinkler pipe. I searched several manufacturers, but I
don't see a metal grating clip that accepts all threa
What are everyone's thoughts on the above?
It is being used to comply with 50% open for "open rack".
However, it seems very much like fiberglass-reinforced polyester. (Group A,
nonexpanded)
Even comes up under a search.
So then comes the Class jump question due to presence of plastic pallets.
Thanks everyone,
It is actually considered an open grid ceiling (Thanks for directing me to
Sec.8.15.3).
George Medina Jr.
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From: George Church
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Sent: Wed, Apr 14, 2010 6:14 am
Subject: RE: Grating
Boxes are placed on grated
2010 8:29 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Grating
Grating is grating. It deflects and is an obstruction to the sprinkler
spray pattern. Heads need to be below.
Open grid ceilings are a different animal as they typically occur moreso in
light or possibly ordinary h
Grating is grating. It deflects and is an obstruction to the sprinkler spray
pattern. Heads need to be below.
Open grid ceilings are a different animal as they typically occur moreso in
light or possibly ordinary hazard occupancies.
Ceilings are one thing and floor grating is another
, 2010 7:06 PM
To: SprinklerFORUM@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Grating
What is the dimensions of grating when sprinklers are required underneath? I
looked under NFPA-13 (2007 ed.) index for Grating and found no specifications.
.
George Medina Jr
George,
I believe it's all grating. The dimensioning of how much covered to
open area and size of openings is for egg crate ceilings.
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:06 PM, George Medina Jr wrote:
> What is the dimensions of grating when sprinklers are required underneath? I
> looked un
What is the dimensions of grating when sprinklers are required underneath? I
looked under NFPA-13 (2007 ed.) index for Grating and found no specifications.
.
George Medina Jr.
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Subject: RE: Open Grating
Yesterday I attended a seminar regarding records storage...specifically for
Iron Mountain.
The presenter indicated that they had just completed new fire tests with this
shelving. Tests were done in 2007 by Fire Protect
forum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of George
Church
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 9:18 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Open Grating
No, but its only 50% open, and I believe it needs to be 70% open to be
considered acceptable waterflow.
Now maybe a sharp guy could specify an increase in
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of George Church
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:47 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Open Grating
Until the
onday, March 09, 2009 10:56 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Open Grating
Except for the fact the definition of solid shelving seems to support the
case. '02 - 3.10.10...Shelves of wiremesh...more than 50% open and where the
flue spaces are maintained shall be defined as open ra
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Subject: RE: Open Grating
So it lets sprinkler discharge through as opposed to a solid shelf. They
think this is special?
It makes no difference when the rack is loade
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Subject: Open Grating
http://www.punchdeck.com/index.html
I found this advertised in the current issue of a major magazin
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Subject: Open Grating
http://www.punchdeck.com/index.html
I found this advertised in the current issue of a major magazine. It seems
like it is mostly designed for in rack, but under applications it speaks of
archive storage over large area. It also seems the key selling point
http://www.punchdeck.com/index.html
I found this advertised in the current issue of a major magazine. It seems
like it is mostly designed for in rack, but under applications it speaks of
archive storage over large area. It also seems the key selling point to this
is the ability to allow sprinkl
Ryan,
I think NFPA 13 differentiates between steel grating and open-grid ceilings
due to the very real potential that steel grating can have something placed
on top it to create an obstruction - such as some type of storage, plywood,
mats, etc. Since lights are typically located above an open
From dirt we come and to dirt we shall return?
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All this time to discover it's people that turn to dirt, not water?
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Aristotle postulated that water turned to dirt>
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Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 10:36 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Protection below steel grating
Regarding sprinkler requirements below steel grating used in an industrial
overhead walkway, why are sprinklers required below them if wider then 4'
per NFPA 13
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Hinson
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 1:36 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Protection below steel grating
Regarding sprinkler requirements below steel grating used in an industrial
overhead walkway, why are
grating has a
tendency to reconcentrate the water spray pattern into a dribbling stream thus
making the sprinkler ineffective in regards to it's intended discharge pattern
for successful suppression/control.
Sprinklers below gratings are usually the intermediate type same as used in
rack storage
Regarding sprinkler requirements below steel grating used in an industrial
overhead walkway, why are sprinklers required below them if wider then 4'
per NFPA 13(2002) 8.5.5.3 and yet open-grid ceilings need not have heads
below them as long as 8.14.12 is satisfied? This is not a storage sce
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