[Sprinklerforum] Re: Steel Grating

2024-04-12 Thread Bob Knight
Yes, there is a roof deck above that is sprinklered.  I have put sprinklers below the grating using shields on the sprinklers.  Just second guessing myself. /Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III// /*/Fire by Knight, LLC/*/ //208-318-3057/ FIREBYKNIGHT On 4/12/2024 4:41 PM, Bob Knight wrote: I have

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Steel Grating

2024-04-12 Thread Worley, Tom
Sounds to me like the thickness of the material nor the depth of the material can exceed the least dimension of the opening. Are your sprinklers above the grating? 9.3.10*<https://link.nfpa.org/publications/13/2019/annexes/A/groups/9#ID000130005688> Open-Grid Ceilings. Open-grid ce

[Sprinklerforum] Steel Grating

2024-04-12 Thread Bob Knight
I have an area that has Steel Grating that is 1/4" x 1-1/2".  The openings are 15/16" x 3 3/4". When A.3.3.41.2(2) {2019 ED} states "the thickness of the  ceiling material does not exceed the least dimension of the openings", is this referring to the depth of th

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Metal Grating Clip for Fire Sprinkler Pipe Hanger

2022-04-26 Thread Travis.Mack
nkler.org Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: Metal Grating Clip for Fire Sprinkler Pipe Hanger We have done many document storage facilities like an Iron mountain. With over 10 levels of isle protection. All our pipe hangs off the grate from the floor above. When I call my supplier I call the “

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Metal Grating Clip for Fire Sprinkler Pipe Hanger

2022-04-26 Thread Henry Fontana
ril 26, 2022 3:01 PM To: 'Tom Wellen' ; sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: Metal Grating Clip for Fire Sprinkler Pipe Hanger The Hanger chapter in NFPA 13 only mentions the structure. I don’t believe it was the intention to allow attachments to grated floor s

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Metal Grating Clip for Fire Sprinkler Pipe Hanger

2022-04-26 Thread tstone52
Metal Grating Clip for Fire Sprinkler Pipe Hanger I ran into an installation where the ring hanger was attached to the metal grating to support sprinkler pipe below. I'm trying to find the right way to support the fire sprinkler pipe. I searched several manufacturers, but I don't see

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Metal Grating Clip for Fire Sprinkler Pipe Hanger

2022-04-26 Thread Brett Peters
26, 2022 at 12:47 PM Chris Dorn < chris.d...@dornfireprotection.com> wrote: > We have used stove bolts with a large head and a long thread. That > minimizes the possibility of a trip hazard as there is only a small bump on > top of the grating. > > Christopher Dorn > Dorn

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Metal Grating Clip for Fire Sprinkler Pipe Hanger

2022-04-26 Thread Chris Dorn
We have used stove bolts with a large head and a long thread. That minimizes the possibility of a trip hazard as there is only a small bump on top of the grating. Christopher Dorn Dorn Fire Protection LLC 4132 Dumont Street #4 Cincinnati, Ohio 45226 (513) 295-2499 On Apr 26, 2022, at 2:46 PM

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Metal Grating Clip for Fire Sprinkler Pipe Hanger

2022-04-26 Thread Joe Burtell
ch to the grating? Toggle > hangers? > > > > > > *Taylor Schumacher CET* > > > > > > > > *From:* Tom Wellen > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 26, 2022 12:45 PM > *To:* sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > *Subject:* [Sprinklerforum] Metal Grating

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Metal Grating Clip for Fire Sprinkler Pipe Hanger

2022-04-26 Thread Taylor Schumacher
Not sure you will find one. How did they attach to the grating? Toggle hangers? Taylor Schumacher CET From: Tom Wellen Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2022 12:45 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Metal Grating Clip for Fire Sprinkler Pipe Hanger I ran into an

[Sprinklerforum] Metal Grating Clip for Fire Sprinkler Pipe Hanger

2022-04-26 Thread Tom Wellen
I ran into an installation where the ring hanger was attached to the metal grating to support sprinkler pipe below. I'm trying to find the right way to support the fire sprinkler pipe. I searched several manufacturers, but I don't see a metal grating clip that accepts all threa

Molded Fiberglass Grating Rack Decking

2021-02-03 Thread Matthew J Willis via Sprinklerforum
What are everyone's thoughts on the above? It is being used to comply with 50% open for "open rack". However, it seems very much like fiberglass-reinforced polyester. (Group A, nonexpanded) Even comes up under a search. So then comes the Class jump question due to presence of plastic pallets.

Re: Grating

2010-04-14 Thread George Medina Jr
Thanks everyone, It is actually considered an open grid ceiling (Thanks for directing me to Sec.8.15.3). George Medina Jr. -Original Message- From: George Church To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Sent: Wed, Apr 14, 2010 6:14 am Subject: RE: Grating Boxes are placed on grated

RE: Grating

2010-04-14 Thread George Church
2010 8:29 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Grating Grating is grating. It deflects and is an obstruction to the sprinkler spray pattern. Heads need to be below. Open grid ceilings are a different animal as they typically occur moreso in light or possibly ordinary h

RE: Grating

2010-04-14 Thread Craig.Prahl
Grating is grating. It deflects and is an obstruction to the sprinkler spray pattern. Heads need to be below. Open grid ceilings are a different animal as they typically occur moreso in light or possibly ordinary hazard occupancies. Ceilings are one thing and floor grating is another

RE: Grating

2010-04-14 Thread Johnson, Duane (NIH/OD/ORS) [C]
, 2010 7:06 PM To: SprinklerFORUM@firesprinkler.org Subject: Grating What is the dimensions of grating when sprinklers are required underneath? I looked under NFPA-13 (2007 ed.) index for Grating and found no specifications. . George Medina Jr

Re: Grating

2010-04-13 Thread Ron Greenman
George, I believe it's all grating. The dimensioning of how much covered to open area and size of openings is for egg crate ceilings. On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:06 PM, George Medina Jr wrote: > What is the dimensions of grating when sprinklers are required underneath? I > looked un

Grating

2010-04-13 Thread George Medina Jr
What is the dimensions of grating when sprinklers are required underneath? I looked under NFPA-13 (2007 ed.) index for Grating and found no specifications. . George Medina Jr. = ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org http

RE: Open Grating

2009-03-10 Thread Craig.Prahl
09 11:18 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Open Grating Yesterday I attended a seminar regarding records storage...specifically for Iron Mountain. The presenter indicated that they had just completed new fire tests with this shelving. Tests were done in 2007 by Fire Protect

RE: Open Grating

2009-03-10 Thread Matsuda, Richard
forum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of George Church Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 9:18 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Open Grating No, but its only 50% open, and I believe it needs to be 70% open to be considered acceptable waterflow. Now maybe a sharp guy could specify an increase in

RE: Open Grating

2009-03-09 Thread Chris Cahill
wy 12 SW Waverly, MN 55390 -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of George Church Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:47 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Open Grating Until the

RE: Open Grating

2009-03-09 Thread George Church
onday, March 09, 2009 10:56 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Open Grating Except for the fact the definition of solid shelving seems to support the case. '02 - 3.10.10...Shelves of wiremesh...more than 50% open and where the flue spaces are maintained shall be defined as open ra

RE: Open Grating

2009-03-09 Thread Chris Cahill
iresprinkler.org] On Behalf Of craig.pr...@ch2m.com Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 9:20 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Open Grating So it lets sprinkler discharge through as opposed to a solid shelf. They think this is special? It makes no difference when the rack is loade

RE: Open Grating

2009-03-09 Thread Craig.Prahl
-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Matthew J. Willis Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:04 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Open Grating http://www.punchdeck.com/index.html I found this advertised in the current issue of a major magazin

RE: Open Grating

2009-03-09 Thread George Church
nklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Open Grating http://www.punchdeck.com/index.html I found this advertised in the current issue of a major magazine. It seems like it is mostly designed for in rack, but under applications it speaks of archive storage over large area. It also seems the key selling point

Open Grating

2009-03-09 Thread Matthew J. Willis
http://www.punchdeck.com/index.html I found this advertised in the current issue of a major magazine. It seems like it is mostly designed for in rack, but under applications it speaks of archive storage over large area. It also seems the key selling point to this is the ability to allow sprinkl

RE: Protection below steel grating

2008-10-02 Thread Ed Kramer
Ryan, I think NFPA 13 differentiates between steel grating and open-grid ceilings due to the very real potential that steel grating can have something placed on top it to create an obstruction - such as some type of storage, plywood, mats, etc. Since lights are typically located above an open

RE: Protection below steel grating

2008-10-02 Thread Todd Williams - FPDC
From dirt we come and to dirt we shall return? At 06:20 PM 10/2/2008, you wrote: All this time to discover it's people that turn to dirt, not water? Thom McMahon, SET Firetech, Inc. Aristotle postulated that water turned to dirt> > Craig L. Prahl, CET __

RE: Protection below steel grating

2008-10-02 Thread Thom McMahon
All this time to discover it's people that turn to dirt, not water? Thom McMahon, SET Firetech, Inc. Aristotle postulated that water turned to dirt> > Craig L. Prahl, CET ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Protection below steel grating

2008-10-02 Thread Ron Greenman
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RE: Protection below steel grating

2008-10-02 Thread Mike Tennent
Hinson Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 10:36 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Protection below steel grating Regarding sprinkler requirements below steel grating used in an industrial overhead walkway, why are sprinklers required below them if wider then 4' per NFPA 13

RE: Protection below steel grating

2008-10-02 Thread Craig.Prahl
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Hinson Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 1:36 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Protection below steel grating Regarding sprinkler requirements below steel grating used in an industrial overhead walkway, why are

RE: Protection below steel grating

2008-10-02 Thread Craig.Prahl
grating has a tendency to reconcentrate the water spray pattern into a dribbling stream thus making the sprinkler ineffective in regards to it's intended discharge pattern for successful suppression/control. Sprinklers below gratings are usually the intermediate type same as used in rack storage

Protection below steel grating

2008-10-02 Thread Ryan Hinson
Regarding sprinkler requirements below steel grating used in an industrial overhead walkway, why are sprinklers required below them if wider then 4' per NFPA 13(2002) 8.5.5.3 and yet open-grid ceilings need not have heads below them as long as 8.14.12 is satisfied? This is not a storage sce