Re: heat activated devices for a deluge system.

2007-04-04 Thread Jim Deason
Charles Thurston wrote: Hello bcaputo, Wednesday, April 4, 2007, 2:03:06 PM, you wrote: This isn't something your average inspector will know how to do. You have to find an elderly ex-Automatic guy. Or an ex ADT Guy that worked on the Aero Fire Detection Systems *%^%^*

Re: heat activated devices for a deluge system.

2007-04-04 Thread Ron Greenman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:35:29 PM Subject: Re: heat activated devices for a deluge system. the pilot lines operate from a drop in pressure. There are old pneumatic HADs that operate off a rise in air pressure. If believe these HAD's

RE: heat activated devices for a deluge system.

2007-03-30 Thread MOWLE Kevin(K) - BRUCE POWER
interpreting the HADs as initiation devices however some here disagree. Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ford, Charles Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:26 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: heat activated devices

Re: heat activated devices for a deluge system.

2007-03-30 Thread Jim Deason
Subject: RE: heat activated devices for a deluge system. Pneumatic rate-of-rise detection has been in use as fire alarm since long before there was electric detection. HAD is a spot type of pneumatic rate-of-rise detection (versus linear type). It was the primary method of releasing early CO2 systems, I

Re: heat activated devices for a deluge system.

2007-03-29 Thread Roland Huggins
they are NOT electrical devices, so 72 shouldn't be part of the equation. The ones I've played with are just domes with small diameter tubes. Never thought of them as a pneumatic SIGNAL. That may be leading to some of the confusion. Better to think of it as a pneumatic HAD that

Re: heat activated devices for a deluge system.

2007-03-29 Thread Roland Huggins
let me try again. Not saying it ISN'T required. That double negative thing. Roland On Mar 29, 2007, at 11:58 AM, Roland Huggins wrote: I'm not saying it was required. It just wasn't driven by 25. Roland ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list

RE: heat activated devices for a deluge system.

2007-03-29 Thread Craig.Prahl
://www.lg.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Shelton Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 3:20 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: heat activated devices for a deluge system. Since NFPA 72 includes discussion of these types

RE: heat activated devices for a deluge system.

2007-03-29 Thread Mike Brown (TECH- GVL)
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: heat activated devices for a deluge system. I think they need to be a bit more specific in their reference to what kind of pneumatic HAD's they have. This could be construed as closed sprinkler heads (pilot heads) on pilot piping. If they are using

RE: heat activated devices for a deluge system.

2007-03-29 Thread Ford, Charles
Pneumatic rate-of-rise detection has been in use as fire alarm since long before there was electric detection. HAD is a spot type of pneumatic rate-of-rise detection (versus linear type). It was the primary method of releasing early CO2 systems, I have seen it in water curtain applications in

Re: heat activated devices for a deluge system.

2007-03-29 Thread Roland Huggins
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 3:44 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: heat activated devices for a deluge system. I think they need to be a bit more specific in their reference to what kind