Found something new in a FP spec that I think is worth sharing. Spec's are
copyrighted by a nationally known FP consultant.
Excessive assistance provided by the Architect/General Contractor to the
Contractor, at the Contractor's request, shall be at cost to the Contractor,
via back charge, ...
Run, don't walk.
At 09:16 AM 11/6/2012, you wrote:
Found something new in a FP spec that I think is worth sharing. Spec's are
copyrighted by a nationally known FP consultant.
Excessive assistance provided by the Architect/General Contractor to the
Contractor, at the Contractor's request,
And the definition of 'excessive' always varies depending on what side of
the fence you are on. I would not want the 'consultant' defining excessive
in this case!
Cliff Whitfield, SET
President
Fire Design, Inc.
Ph: 337-261-8807
Fx: 337-261-8808
cl...@fire-design.com
www.fire-design.com
So are Architects/General Contractor going to start back charging for RFI's? I
have had projects with 8 RFI's because of issues with the bid documents and the
classic statement on the drawing, Contractor shall not deviate without written
approval.
Dan Failla
Our Town Fire Sprinkler Designs
Sorry folks,
I have to defend at least the idea of controlling the number of RFIs. Clearly
there is an element out there that tries to bury the design team with paper
work as a method to slow down the construction process, increase profit, and
move the blame on to the design professionals,
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Mike,
You may want to use the following as possible justification for omitting the
sprinklers in the built in casework/closet.
*
NFPA 13, 2010 Ed
8.1.1 (7) Furniture, such as portable wardrobe units, cabinets, trophy
cases, and similar features not intended for occupancy,
does
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While I understand what David and some others are saying about excessive RFI's
from incompetent sprinkler companies etc I believe that your post points out
what most of know to be true the majority of the time Most RFI's are
created by sprinkler companies needing information that wasn't
Life would be simpler if 90% of the bid docs we get weren't completely silent
beyond meet code or contained fatal errors.
My favorite is when they fluff out their notes with snippets of #13, like
specifying the MRA, say .1/1500.
Oh- so if there's unsprinklered combustible concealed spaces we
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Let's face it, most of the plans and specs we see today are crap. This is just
a way for the Architect/Engineer/GC to subsidize incompetence. And it would
probably lead to more crap as they now see a money stream from it. My guess is
the boobs that included this in the first place will start
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to fix my problem, a expansion tank
or water hammer arrestor
comes to mind.
Thanks,
Mike Hairfield
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Thanks,
Mike Hairfield
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