First, To be clear, in MN any way, the legislation is the cities or state code
authorities can't force sprinklers. It does not ban them.
B, does not the gov't and especially the legislature have immunities to being
sued. I'd think sprinklers are the least the legislature has done to hurt and
Someone in this group is likely to have the answer and an example to prove
it.
https://www.facebook.com/Collecting.Old.Fire.Sprinkler.Heads
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Todd Williams t...@fpdc.com wrote:
Did they make heads for regular use with the old small deflector in 1954?
Todd G
I'm no lawyer so don't trust me 100% 0n any legal stuff, but to my
understanding State agencies cannot be held criminally libel unless there
is a policy of ignoring their public charge. State agencies can be sued, as
well as individual employees in civil matters. This I know for sure since I
work
Distinguished Forum Members;
Let me begin by saying that everyone in West lost something, and in no small
measure. The owners of the plant lost their business, yes. But they also
knew the employees and fire fighters that were lost. They knew the people
who lost their homes, several of which,
I know of a 500,000 sq ft one of these in Texas. I'm not sure how much of
the bad stuff they have, but at 500,000 sq ft I bet it's tons more than
West. I could go on, but it's protected with sprinklers. Even with
sprinklers, I hope the first responders in this county learned from West
and know
Todd, The Standard Spray sprinkler was researched and began being used in the
late 40's on FM insured projects. The conventional sprinkler remained the
sprinkler of choice in NFPA 13 until the 1955 edition. The research done by FM
convinced the committee of the superior effectiveness of
We can be gentle with the people and the community in general, but there
appears to be negligence at many levels. Those that circumvent their job, cover
up problems or knowingly put others at risk do not deserve that respect. If a
business that provided jobs and economic vitality knowingly
Stainless steel pipe would be suitable
Perhaps copper too.
Nicky Marshall
Branch Manager (Blenheim)
Protech Design
Specialist Fire Protection Consultants
03 579 5577
021 433 488
www.protechdesign.co.nz
skype: nicky-marshall
105A Alabama Rd, Redwoodtown, Blenheim 7201, New Zealand
PO Box 4022,
Agree, but the question asked about steel piping.
John August Denhardt, P.E., FSFPE
Strickland Fire Protection Incorporated
5113 Berwyn Road
College Park, Maryland 20740
Office Telephone Number: 301-474-1136
Mobile Telephone Number: 301-343-1457
FIRE SPRINKLERS SAVE LIVES - Can you live without
That well-rounded education is very useful in the workplace. Like the NICET
testing forcing us to look at various segments of the industry and see it
presented in a complete set of pipe charts. One sees all available so if
someone brings up or specs on something OTHER than what we all use- sch
Stay on that box George.
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 1:56 PM, George Church g...@rowesprinkler.com wrote:
That well-rounded education is very useful in the workplace. Like the
NICET testing forcing us to look at various segments of the industry and
see it presented in a complete set of pipe
Yes, Chris, I don't give legal advice, but under our legal system government is
not sued for failure to regulate. Take automobiles. A whole raft of features
have been shown to reduce fatalities. Each has taken years to be implemented.
Padded dashboards, laminated safety glass, brake systems
We don't know that how the fire ignited, spread, how the chemical storage
became involved or exploded. We do know that there we a variety of chemicals
on-site that had potential to harm neighbors. These chemicals act different and
can hurt responders in ways that are different from their common
Government could have been sued if legislation existed that mandated safety
features could not be added, actively interfering, and thereby creating a
harm. Government cannot be sued for non-participation though. Government
can be sued for breach of contract and I've seen this happen over and over,
I liked that response Bruce. Particularly the last lines about will. And if
they actually did have the quantities of chemicals reported in any of the
reports it was several times to way too many times relative to the mandated
quantity hat triggers the need to report that to a higher authority. Had
How 'bout this Bruce? The Navy wanted to disband the fire department at the
fuel depot on the grounds that they had a mutual assistance agreement with
Manchester and so they no longer needed their own fire department. Wanna
bet the Navy FD was better equipped to handle house fires, traffic
I know someone who in a previous life worked for Pan Am Fire at Bangor. He
talked about a fire on the Ohio. Would not have been a situation to send the
typical volunteers into.
Pan Am, so it shows how long ago it was.
bv
- Original Message -
From: Ron Greenman rongreen...@gmail.com
Are you required to put check valves on FDC's supplyign dry standpipe
systems such as on docks etc?
Thanks,
--
Greg McGahan
Living Water Fire Protection, LLC http://www.livingwaterfp.com
1160 McKenzie Road
Cantonment, FL 32533
850-937-1850
fax 850-937-1852
Hello Greg,
Is it a Manual Dry system? If so we do not and the AHJs in the area see no
reason to.
Wednesday, May 1, 2013, 9:38:18 PM, you wrote:
Are you required to put check valves on FDC's supplyign dry standpipe
systems such as on docks etc?
Thanks,
--
Best regards,
Charles
Agree with you. No check valves required.
Fire sprinklers save lives
Sent from my iPad
On May 1, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Charles Thurston charl...@mbfsg.com wrote:
Hello Greg,
Is it a Manual Dry system? If so we do not and the AHJs in the area see no
reason to.
Wednesday, May 1, 2013,
Prices must be expensive in mn priced out our house in wis at under $1500
in two floors for 3000 sq ft.
Norm
On Apr 30, 2013 10:44 AM, Hinson, Ryan rhin...@burnsmcd.com wrote:
FYI Here is a chain email letter being sent out by the builder's
association in MN regarding the eminent vote on the
T
hanks - that makes three!~!
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:45 PM, John Denhardt
jdenha...@stricklandfire.comwrote:
Agree with you. No check valves required.
Fire sprinklers save lives
Sent from my iPad
On May 1, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Charles Thurston charl...@mbfsg.com wrote:
Hello Greg,
Did you mean dry sprinkler system, or standpipe, ie, built in hard pipe fire
hose?
bv
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