Re: Partial height walls in OH occupancies.

2021-09-14 Thread Josh McDonald via Sprinklerforum
The NFPA 13 technical committee has addressed partial height walls in ordinary hazard occupancies in the NFPA 13, 2022 edition. Section 10.2.7.3.2.3 and 10.2.7.3.2.4 address partial height walls 12 in. or less in width. If a sprinkler is installed within 6 in. of the centerline of the partial

Re: Partial height walls in OH occupancies.

2021-09-14 Thread Joe Burtell via Sprinklerforum
I would think you have to space to the walls or have the walls stop 18" below the ceiling which it appears it does. The obstructions change for things below 18" and the chart stops at 18" as well. Best regards, *Joe Burtell, SET, CFPS* [image: Burtell Fire_Small] Phone | Fax | Mobile| Text

RE: Back Up Fire Pump

2021-09-14 Thread BRUCE VERHEI via Sprinklerforum
Apologies. I meant to note that theses were originally my comments. bv > On 09/14/2021 2:27 PM BRUCE VERHEI via Sprinklerforum > wrote: > > > This is cut and past of partial comments from discussion on another forum, > originating from an NFSA post. > > What is missing from this excerpt is

RE: Back Up Fire Pump

2021-09-14 Thread BRUCE VERHEI via Sprinklerforum
This is cut and past of partial comments from discussion on another forum, originating from an NFSA post. What is missing from this excerpt is pressure rating of the hose. At acceptance and annually FD’s test hose at 250 psi. You are quickly going to lose persuasion ability with your fire plan

Partial height walls in OH occupancies.

2021-09-14 Thread Fpdcdesign via Sprinklerforum
I am working on the renovation of an upscale bridal store where there a several partial height walls being installed. The spaces created by the walls are semi-private consulting areas. The top of the walls is 1’-10” below the ceiling. The existing concealed sprinklers are spaced at

RE: Back Up Fire Pump

2021-09-14 Thread John Irwin via Sprinklerforum
This is the answer I was looking for. We will contact the city for their pumping ability. Thank you John Irwin Branch Manager - Florida West Coast Quick Response Fire Protection Cell: 727-282-9243 "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten." -

RE: Back Up Fire Pump

2021-09-14 Thread Steve Leyton via Sprinklerforum
By my reckoning, you need about 300 PSI at the ground level to pump 100 PSI to the roof of what I'll call a 385' tall standpipe system (35x11). Bottom line: Can the responding FD pump 750 or 1,000 GPM at 300 psi? Most muni departments can, but that might be at the limit of what they can

RE: Back Up Fire Pump

2021-09-14 Thread Matt Grise via Sprinklerforum
It might also depend on the pumping ability of the fire department? How much pump can they drive up with? Matt -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Spencer Tomlinson via Sprinklerforum Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 11:16 AM To:

RE: Back Up Fire Pump

2021-09-14 Thread Spencer Tomlinson via Sprinklerforum
Might come from the requirements of IFC Section 914, etcpending height. Just another place to look anyway. Spencer Tomlinson, PE Owner, Fire Protection Engineer Ph:  316-202-6412 Fax: 316-202-2346 Cell: 620-955-7293 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of John

Back Up Fire Pump

2021-09-14 Thread John Irwin via Sprinklerforum
Starting design on a 35 story residential tower. Engineers plans show two identical fire pumps. Client wants to know if we need two fire pumps. I want to answer him with the code reference below, but experience has taught me that it may not be as simple as this ... Am I missing something or