RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Available Pressure from Fire Water Storage Tank

2021-05-07 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
So, if this same tank and pump were at the same elevation and 5 blocks away in a Water Utility Yard owned by the city water department, what pressure and flow rate would one use to design a sprinkler system? Mark at Aero 602 820-7894 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf

Re: [EXTERNAL] Fire Pump Sprk & Fire Flow Demand

2021-04-23 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fire Pump Sprk & Fire Flow Demand

2021-04-21 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
I've had at least one Official state (opinion) that the "Fire Flow" @ 20 PSI" was never intended to be "provided to the site hydrants". It is simply a recommendation for the benefit of Fire Fighters using their pumpers and hoes to "preserve" 20 psi in the city water main for all the obvious

RE: [EXTERNAL] Standpipe Testing

2021-04-16 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
Hi Scot, Long time no argue with !! Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn’t that called the "Gas Laws" and for good reason, it's different from Hydraulics? If you fill a standpipe system from the bottom and vent the system at the top to evacuate the air (gas), you could achieve a hydraulic lock in

RE: [EXTERNAL] Standpipe Testing

2021-04-15 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
In years past, we have actually enlisted the service of the local Fire Station to bring out a pumper truck, hook an existing hydrant and fill and pressurize the standpipe. The inspector came back after the requisite 2 hours and signed it off. It's all about relationships. Mark at Aero 602

Re: [EXTERNAL] Activity

2021-02-15 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
If you were to look up George in my contact list this is what you’d find. George L. Church Rowe Sprinkler Systems Inc Owners Husband Mark at Aero 602 820-7894 > On Feb 12, 2021, at 3:39 PM, Ron Greenman via Sprinklerforum > wrote: > > Seems like there's been a resurgence in activity in the

RE: RV Storage

2021-01-14 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
https://www.gadsdentimes.com/news/20200415/scottsboro-dock-fire-that-killed-8-ruled-accidental -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Steve Leyton via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 10:57 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Steve Leyton ;

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: RV Storage

2021-01-08 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
When you say boat storage would be questionable, are you just accommodating open-top aluminum fishing boats as low risk/hazard? Otherwise boat storage vs RV storage are the same IMHO. Mark at Aero 602 820-7894 > On Jan 8, 2021, at 1:38 PM, Travis Mack via Sprinklerforum > wrote: > > RV

ICF Table 3208.3

2020-12-19 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
Is anyone online this morning willing to discuss the Noted Table in the fire code. My question, on behalf of a building owner is... " What is the application of the three boxes at the right hand side of the Table labeled NON-SPRINKLERED Any Height NR (Not Required)" I have to admit, it makes

RE: [EXTERNAL] Seed Cleaning Plant

2020-10-15 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
What Craig said, and don't forget about the organic dust explosion hazard. Mark at Aero 602 820-7894 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 2:52 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Prahl,

RE: Self-storage Lockers

2020-10-15 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
Maybe you should have suggested to the ahj that it needed a total flooding inert gas system with optical detection as the primary protection system with a 6% AR /AFFF deluge system for redundancy. You just never know when someone might leave a box of Bic pens in their locker (Flammable liquid

RE: 13 R in a single family home

2020-08-13 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
San Francisco. -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Kyle.Montgomery via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 8:06 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Kyle.Montgomery Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: 13 R in a single family home Out of curiosity, where

RE: Pump Suction Pressure (NPSH)

2020-08-06 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
Just out of curiosity, what is driving the need to replace the pump? Mark at Aero 602 820-7894 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Brian Harris via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 8:24 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Brian Harris

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Covered Parking in 13R

2020-05-30 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
Or actually a 170 year old model. But who’s counting. Mark at Aero 602 820-7894 On May 30, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Steve Leyton via Sprinklerforum wrote:  This post could be the narrative explanation for why I went into business as a design consultant. When I was contracting, I lost countless

RE: Covered Parking in 13R

2020-05-29 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
This is outside the scope of the NFPA standards. It is in the realm of the local Building or Fire Code to determine the If required. Mark at Aero 602 820-7894 From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of John Irwin via Sprinklerforum Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 2:55 AM To:

RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: I-B construction - ABS plumbing piping

2020-05-19 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
Another thing to keep in mind is that having combustible material in the attic space of type IB construction does not change the construction type. Mark at Aero 602 820-7894 From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Travis Mack, SET, CFPS, CWBSP, RME-G via Sprinklerforum Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020

RE: [EXTERNAL] Campus type water supply

2019-12-23 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
I believe you're correct in your assumptions and suppositions. We designed and build a water supply system very similar to yours a number of years ago but it has three domestic pumps plus our fire pump. The settings in the individual controllers are easily arranged to accommodate this. The

RE: Hazard Group?

2019-12-17 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
Please don't throw rocks at me for this, but if the building isn't normally occupied (office space of whatever) does it even make sense to put sprinklers in it? You don't say what the construction type is but these are commonly metal buildings and if it is, there is even less reason to put in

Re: [EXTERNAL] Not required, requirement

2019-11-18 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
Do you have to perform the test or do they do it? Mark at Aero 602 820-7894 Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 18, 2019, at 8:57 PM, firstin--- via Sprinklerforum > wrote: > > Need advice on the best way to fight a non required requirement. > Someone at the local water purveyor came up the the

RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Residential Sprinkler system

2019-11-07 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
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Residential Sprinkler system

2019-11-07 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
I am looking for a general idea for the completed cost of a residential sprinkler system using a wet pipe antifreeze (cold climate location). The project is a high end two story custom home of around 6,000 square feet of protected space and has an adequate city water supply. I’m not looking

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: deluge sprinkler

2019-10-18 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
to activate more than one system with the same fire (say two levels with a large open communicating space, or open grate flooring? Or even just two tanks that are close together. Benjamin Young On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:12 AM Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum mailto:sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org

RE: deluge sprinkler

2019-10-18 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
If you haven't gotten a response on this question, I'll offer a couple of questions to gather information. 1. Are there exterior walls that enclose the individual floors? 2. Are the floors solid with large openings, or grated with large openings? 3. What type of equipment is

Re: [EXTERNAL] FW: Dry Pipe Valve to Wet

2019-09-24 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
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Re: [EXTERNAL] FW: Dry Pipe Valve to Wet

2019-09-24 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
Just curious, but wouldn’t it be about the same to just replace the valve with a spool? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:08 PM, John Paulsen via Sprinklerforum mailto:sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org>> wrote: From: John Paulsen Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 10:06 AM To: