RE: Dual Purpose Fire Pump - Hydrants and Sprinklers

2010-09-13 Thread Letterman, Todd
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Dual Purpose Fire Pump - Hydrants and Sprinklers Hi Craig, I thought I would chime in ring, a helpful tool is the commentary section of the IFC (appendix), which describes this very scenario. You are right though because of SOG of many Fire Departments being

RE: Dual Purpose Fire Pump - Hydrants and Sprinklers

2010-09-09 Thread Letterman, Todd
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Dual Purpose Fire Pump - Hydrants and Sprinklers So why would we rely on a written and adopted code or standard! Oh that's right, because when we end up in court we have a written adopted document to support or position. That usually works out better than, Well

RE: Dual Purpose Fire Pump - Hydrants and Sprinklers

2010-09-09 Thread Craig.Prahl
: RE: Dual Purpose Fire Pump - Hydrants and Sprinklers Hi Craig, I thought I would chime in ring, a helpful tool is the commentary section of the IFC (appendix), which describes this very scenario. You are right though because of SOG of many Fire Departments being different, it is always best

Re: Dual Purpose Fire Pump - Hydrants and Sprinklers

2010-09-08 Thread lamarvaughn
Ralphy, In my experience,please note the following: Question #1 : The size of the tank should be based on the larger of the two,estimated fire flow (which should include an estimated sprinkler demand) or the actual sprinkler demand including required hose demand,for the required duration.

RE: Dual Purpose Fire Pump - Hydrants and Sprinklers

2010-09-08 Thread Fletcher, Ron
Fire flow is from IFC Appendix B not NFPA. As far as I know 1500 gpm is the minimum fire flow for any property. The inside/outside hose flow added to sprinkler flow has nothing to do with fire flow from hydrants, they are two completely separate issues. A reduction in fire flow is allowed for

RE: Dual Purpose Fire Pump - Hydrants and Sprinklers

2010-09-08 Thread Craig.Prahl
Oh boy, where to begin... 1. Fire Flow: There are several methods of determining fire flow; (1) IBC Appendix B, (2) NFPA 1, (3) NFPA Handbook, (4) ISO, (5) Local FD/Water Dept./Ins. Which can be methods based on any of the above or something totally different.) It's up to whatever EOR

RE: Dual Purpose Fire Pump - Hydrants and Sprinklers

2010-09-08 Thread Thom
If your IFC, the following from appendix B, may apply to your project. B105.2 Buildings other than one- and two-family dwellings. The minimum fire-flow and flow duration for buildings other than one- and two-family dwellings shall be as specified in Table B105.1. Exception: A reduction in

RE: Dual Purpose Fire Pump - Hydrants and Sprinklers

2010-09-08 Thread Craig.Prahl
...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Thom Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:17 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Dual Purpose Fire Pump - Hydrants and Sprinklers If your IFC, the following from appendix B, may apply to your project. B105.2 Buildings other than one- and two-family dwellings

RE: Dual Purpose Fire Pump - Hydrants and Sprinklers

2010-09-08 Thread Thom
Of craig.pr...@ch2m.com Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:19 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Dual Purpose Fire Pump - Hydrants and Sprinklers Don't make that assumption. Fire flow is one thing that has no universal rules and has no regard for the applicable building code

RE: Dual Purpose Fire Pump - Hydrants and Sprinklers

2010-09-08 Thread Craig.Prahl
@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Dual Purpose Fire Pump - Hydrants and Sprinklers So why would we rely on a written and adopted code or standard! Oh that's right, because when we end up in court we have a written adopted document to support or position. That usually works out better than, Well I polled the AHJ