That’s fine, there’s a statutory requirement. Out here, any stage-like
structure – even if it’s just a platform in a school or community MPR is
considered OH2 if it’s got a curtain. I get that, but that wasn’t the
question. As to your warehouse with no ignition sources, good luck moving the
Isn’t it amazing how quick we go from LH to Storage occupancy.
The basis for the answer is going to be heat release. That is the only other
thing than height to be concerned with.
The fact that they become storage rooms in the summer is good due diligence,
but outside our purview.
R/
Matt
What about hoarders? I’ve seen homes (or photos of them) that should be EH2.
This thread started as a question about a wrestling room and quickly escalated
to mats on the floor, mats on the walls, mats rolled up and stored in the room,
in the adjacent room … it became an accessory occupancy
FYI… The State of Minnesota believes that wrestling rooms and gymnastic rooms
are not light hazard as they amended the fire code (2012 IFC) to require OH2
for those spaces.
2015 MN Fire Code
SECTION 903
AUTOMATIC SPRINKLER SYSTEMS
903.3 Installation requirements.
903.3.1 Standards.
903.3.1.5
If we see or are aware of a hazard greater than what the book says it should
be, don’t we have the responsibility to design to that? This is especially true
for me with those 2 extra letters after my name.
Todd G Williams, PE
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Of course. But your question presupposes (and some of the narrative on this
thread alludes to) scenarios where mats on the walls, stored to the ceilings,
scattered about in adjacent rooms, etc., etc.
Original Question: Does anyone have any information supporting high school
wrestling,
I'm not saying to regulate at a local level, it should be done by UL, FM,
IBC, IFC, etc... We didn't have this toxic stuff we have today 50 years ago.
Best regards,
*Joe Burtell, SET, CFPS*
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The IFC doesn’t mean much until you put an inspector in the field.
> On Oct 26, 2018, at 18:56, Joe Burtell wrote:
>
> I'm not saying to regulate at a local level, it should be done by UL, FM,
> IBC, IFC, etc... We didn't have this toxic stuff we have today 50 years ago.
> Best regards,
>
>
I don’t know what density is required. I’m still listening.
I can tell you from the fire marshals office perspective trying to regulate
type of foam and cover would be an exercise in futility.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On Oct 26, 2018, at 14:41, Joe Burtell wrote:
>
> If we go around basing
If we go around basing everything on potential what if's and more often
than not, a rare situation, we are going to have more and more expensive
systems which keep adding to why owners do not want them in the first
place. Unless someone can show some fire testing or data the wrestling
rooms are a
My $0.025 worth of opinion...if you have a modest water supply, say 60psi
static, that first head isn't going to flow at the 19.6 (14x14 @0.1
density) minimum. It is going to go off at 43 gpm (sounds EH to me), then
the second goes off, then the third...We calc for a minimum required, not
an
Steve, I think the gist of this is intended use vs actual use. One layer of
floor mats is not that big a deal. A 7 ft stack of mats in a room during the
summer is. I have seen a lot of stuff in school athletic facilities moved
around and and stored to the point where LH is not
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