What about hoarders? I’ve seen homes (or photos of them) that should be EH2.
This thread started as a question about a wrestling room and quickly escalated to mats on the floor, mats on the walls, mats rolled up and stored in the room, in the adjacent room … it became an accessory occupancy to a wrestling mat factory. I wrestled for 3 years; except for guys three and four classes heavier rubbing my face into the mat like a pot scrubber, I can’t think of a single ignition source in such a room except for the house electrical system. I say, K.I.S.S. and move on … and sincerest apologies if my tone was misconstrued. SL From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fpdcdesign Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 3:50 AM To: Sprinklerforum Subject: Re: High School Weight Room Steve, I think the gist of this is intended use vs actual use. One layer of floor mats is not that big a deal. A 7 ft stack of mats in a room during the summer is. I have seen a lot of stuff in school athletic facilities moved around and and stored to the point where LH is not really acceptable. Typically these rooms are not huge, so how much of a difference in piping is there between LH and OH? Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860-535-2080 (ofc) 860-553-3553 (fax) 860-608-4559 (cell) On Oct 25, 2018 at 7:52 PM, <Steve Leyton<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: So you believe that a movie theater seating area should be a higher hazard group because of all the exposed expanded plastics on the seating? What about the concentration of exposed expanded plastics in a hotel Room?? To bring plastics into the conversation because of portable floor covering is a distortion of the intent of the standard in my humble opinion. Steve Leyton (Sent from my phone; please excuse typos and voice text corruptions.) -------- Original message -------- From: Scott Futrell <[email protected]> Date: 10/25/18 4:24 PM (GMT-08:00) To: [email protected] Subject: RE: High School Weight Room Exposed, expanded, Group A Plastics and when put on walls and/or floors, and/or rolled up, would not be protected adequately by LH. Scott Office: (763) 425-1001 x 2 Cell: (612) 759-5556 From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ron Greenman Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 9:38 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: High School Weight Room I wonder if the fuel load from those rubber/plasticine mats is greater than that of the carpeting and furnishings in an office space. Seems like it might be more than just the synthetic carpeting, but the gym is devoid of all the desks, chairs, computers, electrical cords, cubicle walls, etc., that are in an office space. Ron Greenman [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 253.576.9700 The Universe is monstrously indifferent to the presence of man. -Werner Herzog, screenwriter, film director, author, actor and opera director (1942-) On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 6:14 AM Steve Leyton <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: More than half our work is with educational and institutional occupancies in California, where code amendments and interpretations always lean to the restrictive side of center. We have always protected weight and wrestling and yoga and fitness and community rooms as Light Hazard without much push back from our state jurisdictional agencies.. Steve Leyton (Sent from my phone; please excuse typos and voice text corruptions.) -------- Original message -------- From: Joe Burtell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: 10/25/18 4:35 AM (GMT-08:00) To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: High School Weight Room Does anyone have any information supporting high school wrestling, fitness, and weight rooms being OH2 due to the rubber floors or foam mats? It seems overkill to me but new information is always coming out. Best regards, Joe Burtell, SET, CFPS Phone | Fax | Mobile| Text 406-545-0784<tel:++1-406-545-0784> 116 N. 11th Street | Billings, MT 59101 Email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Web Site: http://www.burtellfire.com<http://www.burtellfire.com/> “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.” NOTICE: The information contained in this e-mail transmission is intended only for use of the individual or entity named above. 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