RE: Flammable liquid tanks in a garage

2020-02-26 Thread Steele, Andrew via Sprinklerforum
My thoughts - cooking oil is a class IIIB combustible liquid; the model building codes would limit to not more than 13,200 gallons before changing to an H use group. If the containers are metal, then no issue. If they are plastic (prohibited for class I flammables and class II and IIIA

RE: IBC "throughout"

2020-01-30 Thread Steele, Andrew via Sprinklerforum
Yes, the commentary for sections 903.1 and 903.3.1.1.1 of the IBC explains. I strongly recommend both the IIC Building and Fire Code commentary books - a lot of usefully information, along with the actual code language. Andrew Steele From: Sprinklerforum

RE: Curbs for Containment (from IFC and NFPA #30)

2020-04-09 Thread Steele, Andrew via Sprinklerforum
IFC Section 5004.2.2.3 (and also similar language in NFPA #30) Secondary containment for indoor storage areas shall be designed to contain a spill from the largest vessel plus the design flow volume of fire protection water calculated to discharge from the fire-extinguishing system over the

RE: Antifreeze Rp issue

2020-07-21 Thread Steele, Andrew via Sprinklerforum
Similar, I'm aware of an antifreeze system that twice split open the expansion tank(s). The first two expansion tanks were generic expansion tanks not listed for antifreeze service. The third (listed/approved) tank has been on for eight or ten years now, with no issues. Don't underestimate

RE: mattress storage

2020-06-04 Thread Steele, Andrew via Sprinklerforum
Also consider looking at the applicable fire code. If the ICC fire code, then this might be a high-piled combustible storage situation beginning at six feet (see high-piled storage definition in ICC Fire Code Chapter 2, and then Chapter 32). Pillows and mattress are in section 3203.6, further

Re: Distilled Spirits

2021-02-03 Thread Steele, Andrew via Sprinklerforum
Look at the model IFC, it now has a distilled spirits section, which will likely be incorporated into state and local fire codes over the next code adoption cycles. On Feb 3, 2021 13:21, "Trillium Fire Sprinkler Design Inc. via Sprinklerforum" wrote: Can anyone direct me to design criteria

Re: Distilled Spirits

2021-02-03 Thread Steele, Andrew via Sprinklerforum
Sorry, should have also said verify its flash and boiling points, then classify into the appropriate flammable liquid class. But also will need to know container type and storage configuration. On Feb 3, 2021 13:21, "Trillium Fire Sprinkler Design Inc. via Sprinklerforum" wrote: Can anyone

RE: 13D UG flush

2022-03-03 Thread Steele, Andrew via Sprinklerforum
Yes, but... NFPA #24 (Underground Fire Mains), within the scope paragraph, excludes 13R and 13D systems. Andrew Steele -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Matt Grise via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2022 10:24 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org

Re: Food trucks inside a building

2022-01-14 Thread Steele, Andrew via Sprinklerforum
Big concerns; frying and grilling "inside" will require type I hoods and suppression systems, and no propane cylinders inside structures. I don't foresee this being viable. Sincerely, Andrew Steele (Fire Inspector in Ohio) On Jan 13, 2022 10:08, Ed Kramer via Sprinklerforum wrote: I'm