RE: Covered Parking in 13R

2020-06-01 Thread Greg McGahan via Sprinklerforum
To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Skyler Bilbo Subject: Re: Covered Parking in 13R I don't think this has been said yet on this thread, but I think it is worth mentioning.  It is not a fire sprinkler contractor's job to decide where sprinklers are required, and/or which standard is applicable

RE: Covered Parking in 13R

2020-05-30 Thread BRUCE VERHEI via Sprinklerforum
> > > From: Sprinklerforum > [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Skyler > Bilbo via Sprinklerforum > Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 3:57 PM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Cc: Skyler Bilbo > Subject: Re:

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Covered Parking in 13R

2020-05-30 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Skyler Bilbo Subject: Re: Covered Parking in 13R I don't think this has been said yet on this thread, but I think it is worth mentioning. It is not a fire sprinkler contractor's job to decide where sprinklers are required, and/or which standard is applicable (NFPA 13

RE: Covered Parking in 13R

2020-05-30 Thread Steve Leyton via Sprinklerforum
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Skyler Bilbo via Sprinklerforum Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 3:57 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Skyler Bilbo Subject: Re: Covered Parking in 13R I don't think this has been said yet on this thread, but I think it is worth

Re: Covered Parking in 13R

2020-05-30 Thread BRUCE VERHEI via Sprinklerforum
Yes. This is part of the building plan review. If I was the fire plan reviewer answer to this question would be on the first sheet of the approved building plans, with code cites. Yes, I’ve had a bunch of spk designers displeased with me over such issues. The Building and Fire reviewer can

RE: Covered Parking in 13R

2020-05-29 Thread Tom Duross via Sprinklerforum
Kudo’s Skylar. From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Skyler Bilbo via Sprinklerforum Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 6:57 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Skyler Bilbo Subject: Re: Covered Parking in 13R I don't think this has been said yet on this thread, but I think

Re: Covered Parking in 13R

2020-05-29 Thread Skyler Bilbo via Sprinklerforum
I don't think this has been said yet on this thread, but I think it is worth mentioning. It is not a fire sprinkler contractor's job to decide where sprinklers are required, and/or which standard is applicable (NFPA 13/13R). I know we all probably do this, but we really shouldn't. I would bet

RE: Covered Parking in 13R

2020-05-29 Thread Matt Grise via Sprinklerforum
Of Art Tiroly via Sprinklerforum Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 5:15 PM To: '321' ; sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Art Tiroly Subject: RE: Covered Parking in 13R Check with the AHJ. I’m not sure you can change from 13 to 13R in the same building. You can use residential rules in a 13 system

RE: Covered Parking in 13R

2020-05-29 Thread Art Tiroly via Sprinklerforum
-570-7030 cell From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of 321 via Sprinklerforum Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 6:02 PM To: Art Tiroly via Sprinklerforum Cc: 321 Subject: Re: Covered Parking in 13R I think so. I have 2 just like this that I am

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2020-05-29 Thread 321 via Sprinklerforum
I think so. I have 2 just like this that I am figuring this way13 R upstairs NFPA Parkling downstairs. John W. Farabee 561-707-5150 On Friday, May 29, 2020, 05:50:22 PM EDT, Art Tiroly via Sprinklerforum wrote: #yiv8323256408 #yiv8323256408 -- _filtered {} _filtered

RE: Covered Parking in 13R

2020-05-29 Thread Art Tiroly via Sprinklerforum
Residential use above a parking garage changes the occupancy requirement to a mixed use and NFPA 13 design criteria is required. Therefore protect the garage. Am I on the right track here? Art Tiroly ATCO Fire Protection/Tiroly 24400 Highland Rd CLE 44143 216-621-8899 216-570-7030 cell

RE: Covered Parking in 13R

2020-05-29 Thread John Irwin via Sprinklerforum
nklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org; sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: John Drucker ; tston...@comcast.net Subject: Re: Covered Parking in 13R Are their standpipes in this building ? John Drucker From: Sprinklerforum mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firespr

RE: Covered Parking in 13R

2020-05-29 Thread John Irwin via Sprinklerforum
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Re: Covered Parking in 13R

2020-05-29 Thread John Drucker via Sprinklerforum
Are their standpipes in this building ? John Drucker From: Sprinklerforum on behalf of tstone52--- via Sprinklerforum Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 07:46 To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: tston...@comcast.net Subject: RE: Covered Parking in 13R John

Re: Covered Parking in 13R

2020-05-29 Thread 321 via Sprinklerforum
John, I have always put sprinklers on the parking level in a situation as you describe. The argument for sprinklers is that if one car catches fire without sprinkler protection, you lose the entire building. Over 46 years working in Florida and I have always done it...AHJ will be the final

RE: Covered Parking in 13R

2020-05-29 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
This is outside the scope of the NFPA standards. It is in the realm of the local Building or Fire Code to determine the If required. Mark at Aero 602 820-7894 From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of John Irwin via Sprinklerforum Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 2:55 AM To:

RE: Covered Parking in 13R

2020-05-29 Thread tstone52--- via Sprinklerforum
John, NFPA 13R states sprinklers are not required under a roof or deck above a carport, 6.6.5.1, (13 ed.). From your description it sounds like a Carport. NFPA 13R addresses Type V construction. That would be a question for the local AHJ to answer. Regards, G. Tim Stone G. Tim Stone