Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-20 Thread Ron F.
mrw wrote: > Well, yes, somewhat disgraceful behaviour. And it seems that you are > being punished for it. > > I've never attempted to build or install OpenSSL, and have no idea how > one configures it. So not much help available from these parts. > > I see that "/usr/bin/openssl version -a"

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-20 Thread mrw
Ron F. wrote: > I have been very bad. Well, yes, somewhat disgraceful behaviour. And it seems that you are being punished for it. I've never attempted to build or install OpenSSL, and have no idea how one configures it. So not much help available from these parts. I see that

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-20 Thread Ron F.
mrw wrote: > Well that's one hypothesis blown away ! As I have been suspecting, I have messed up my install of openssl. Setting SSL_CERT_DIR is a workaround that solves my problem with running LMS, but the issue is that I had downloaded a new version of openssl from Github in the recent past,

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-17 Thread Ron F.
mrw wrote: > I wonder what your OpenSSL system directory has inside it. Mine contains > a -/usr/lib/ssl/certs- directory that is a symbolic link to > -/etc/ssl/certs-, which contains the certificates. If yours doesn't do > that, then maybe that is the source of the problem. > > FWIW (not much,

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-17 Thread mrw
Ron F. wrote: > PERL modules could now find where the certificates are kept on Ubuntu: > /etc/ssl/certs. > > Why this became necessary I still do not understand and I don't know > what the normal mechanism is that PERL uses to find ca-certificates, but > this stopgap measure has taken care of

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-17 Thread bpa
Good to have an answer. As it was I found some more perl ssl tools which were going to be next step. So for the record in case osmebody hasl similar issues. https://github.com/noxxi/p5-ssl-tools The analyze-ssl.pl - create a lot more tracing which might have helped in this case.

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-17 Thread Ron F.
bpa wrote: > I always feel it is better to try to find root cause as often the > problem can recur. > > When you used SSL_VERIFY_MODE you used a number value and not a string. > Strings were used in older versions of the module. > > ... > Thanks bpa, for convincing me to stick with this

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-15 Thread bpa
Have you tried analyze-ssl.pl from here https://github.com/noxxi/p5-ssl-tools/blob/master/analyze-ssl.pl bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-15 Thread bpa
Ron F. wrote: > Yes, I tried both of those things: refresh of ca-certificates, and a > flush of DNS cache. No change. Before wiping this system and starting > over with a fresh install of Ubuntu, I might try to see if I can see > anything using Wireshark. I wonder if anything is going out when

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-15 Thread Ron F.
bpa wrote: > Unlikely to help. > > Have you tried refresh your certificates > > Code: > > > sudo update-ca-certificates --fresh > > > > > Did you see that Learnincurve solved their SSL problem (the reasonfor > this thread) by clearing DNS

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-15 Thread bpa
Ron F. wrote: > Thank you for your help. I have tried lots of things, such as > reinstalling openssl, making sure the correct versions of openssl and > c_rehash are being called, reinstalled ca-certificates, etc., nothing > has changed. > . > . > I don't understand how this happened to begin

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-15 Thread Ron F.
bpa wrote: > I don't know SSL details - at a guess there is something wrong with your > certificates. > > Not sure what to so but perhaps I'll read the following it may offer > some pointers. > > https://maulwuff.de/research/ssl-debugging.html Thank you for your help. I have tried lots of

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-15 Thread d6jg
Learnincurve wrote: > My personal issue is RESOLVED and was DNS related. After flushing DNS > caches and forcing a standard NS lookup on the firewall, everything is > behaving normally, including mysqueezebox.com and apps listings. I am > sorry to have generated so much noise on this list for

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-14 Thread bpa
Learnincurve wrote: > My personal issue is RESOLVED and was DNS related. After flushing DNS > caches and forcing a standard NS lookup on the firewall, everything is > behaving normally, including mysqueezebox.com and apps listings. I am > sorry to have generated so much noise on this list for

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-14 Thread Learnincurve
My personal issue is RESOLVED and was DNS related. After flushing DNS caches and forcing a standard NS lookup on the firewall, everything is behaving normally, including mysqueezebox.com and apps listings. I am sorry to have generated so much noise on this list for something that was not LMS

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-14 Thread mrw
Ron F. wrote: > OK, I did that, here is what was returned: Is the package -ca-certificates- installed ? Absence, or breakage, would cause that error. Or -ca-certificates- just needs updating ? Edit: crossed with @bpa.

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-14 Thread bpa
Ron F. wrote: > OK, I did that, here is what was returned: I don't know SSL details - at a guess there is something wrong with your certificates. Not sure what to so but perhaps I'll read the following it may offer some pointers. https://maulwuff.de/research/ssl-debugging.html

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-14 Thread Ron F.
bpa wrote: > Yes an error. Enable module debugging with the following change > > > Code: > > > use strict; > use IO::Socket::SSL qw(debug3); > > # simple client > my $cl = IO::Socket::SSL->new('www.google.com:443'); > print $cl "GET / HTTP/1.0\r\n\r\n";

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-14 Thread bpa
Ron F. wrote: > Sorry - I should have explained, what I see is: > "Can't use an undefined value as a symbol reference at testSSL.pm line > 6.!" > > I assume this means that $cl remains undefined because IO::Socket:SSL > failed. Yes an error. Enable module debugging with the following change

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-14 Thread Ron F.
bpa wrote: > Not very helpful in describing how it failed. What do you see ? > > I get the following which I think is a success even though it looks > like a failure. > > Code: > > > HTTP/1.1 302 Found > Server: nginx/1.16.1 > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 22:54:53

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-14 Thread bpa
Ron F. wrote: > But this, a short PERL script, does not work: Not very helpful in describing how it failed. What do you see ? I get the following which I think is a success even though it looks like a failure. Code: HTTP/1.1 302 Found Server: nginx/1.16.1

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-14 Thread Ron F.
bpa wrote: > Different approach - similar to the "telnet 443" but more complete. > > Perl uses OpenSSL package to make a connection. The following command > will make a secure connection using OpenSSL libraries, certs etc . to > www.mysqueezebox.com > > Code: > >

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-14 Thread bpa
Different approach - similar to the "telnet 443" but more complete. Perl uses OpenSSL package to make a connection. The following command will make a secure connection using OpenSSL libraries, certs etc . to www.mysqueezebox.com Code: openssl s_client -connect

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-14 Thread bpa
Depending on how desperate you are to confirm/refute a https problem. I just checked how to enable some Perl module IO::Socket::SSL logging when LMS accesses a https URL. It generates lots of messages to console (i.e. LMs must be run form a commandline) - most of which are "normal". The LMS

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-14 Thread bpa
Learnincurve wrote: > but this looks like a wider problem than just mysqueezebox.com . LMS > updates are not being retrieved from repos.squeezecommunity.org and I'm > having trouble with sourceforge. mysqueezebox stuff looks to be HHTTPS related. Ignore any sourceforge errors - that site

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-14 Thread Learnincurve
d6jg wrote: > mysqueezebox.com has the following DNS servers - for testing you could > point your affected host at one of them but it will only resolve > mysqueezebox.com addresses > > dns.usw.mysqueezebox.com > dns.use.mysqueezebox.com > dns.euw.mysqueezebox.com > > If you point at that and

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-14 Thread d6jg
d6jg wrote: > I'm not saying the DNS lookup is wrong - I don't think it is - I think > mySB.com operates on Amazon cloud on a number of different servers which > are probably load balanced. > What I'm saying is that the affected host is getting a correct DNS > address but that either the route

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-14 Thread d6jg
Learnincurve wrote: > Thanks for all the good suggestions and well spotted d6jg regarding the > IP address. I'll start with a more thorough investigation of DNS on the > affected host, compared with the working one and take it from there. I'm not saying the DNS lookup is wrong - I don't think

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-13 Thread Learnincurve
Thanks for all the good suggestions and well spotted d6jg regarding the IP address. I'll start with a more thorough investigation of DNS on the affected host, compared with the working one and take it from there.

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-13 Thread bpa
Learnincurve wrote: > > > telnet bpa-code.github.io 443 > Trying 185.199.109.153... > Connected to bpa-code.github.io. > Escape character is '^]'. > > Could this point to a perl ssl issue? How do I check my perl modules? Testing 443 connectivity is not enough. I don;t know details but have

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-13 Thread bpa
Could there be an IPv6 issue here - I had to turn off IPv6 DNS lookup because I kept getting timeout from my ISP. It meant every lookup was slow. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-13 Thread d6jg
d6jg wrote: > i think the traceroutes are indicating a routing failure. I’d suggest > running some further longer term jobs and then referring the results to > your ISP. Note also that the DNS resolves a different address for mySb.com on the final traceroute and the only one that works.

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-13 Thread d6jg
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-13 Thread mrw
Learnincurve wrote: > Thanks. > > Trying that: > [19-11-13 20:02:06.2725] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) > Failed to fetch > https://bpa-code.github.io/bpaplugins/files/betarelease-repo.xml: 404 > Not Found > Try *https://bpa-code.github.io/bpaplugins/betarelease-repo.xml*

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-13 Thread Learnincurve
bpa wrote: > Can't play mp3 files over https as such - I was looking for a radio > station (ideally MP3) which uses https. > > All your problems seems to be https related. Possibly just > mysqueeze.com. Sourceforge is unreliable (I get sourceforge timeout all > the time) so these errors

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-13 Thread Learnincurve
Continuation... regarding SSL: telnet sourceforge.net 443 Trying 216.105.38.13... Connected to sourceforge.net. Escape character is '^]'. Connection closed by foreign host. telnet www.mysqueezebox.com 443 Trying 34.229.43.96... ^C telnet www.mysqueezebox.com 80 Trying 34.229.43.96... ^C

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-13 Thread Learnincurve
Learnincurve wrote: > "openssl is already the newest version (1.1.1-1ubuntu2.2)" Tried deleting cache with no improvement: 2019-11-13 17:14:45 squeezeboxserver_safe started. [19-11-13 17:14:46.4650] main::init (387) Starting Logitech Media Server (v7.9.2, 1572699180, Sat Nov 2 14:13:52 CET

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-13 Thread bpa
Learnincurve wrote: > Can you give advice on how to play .mp3 files directly over https? Can't play mp3 files over https as such - I was looking for a radio station (ideally MP3) which uses https. All your problems seems to be https related. Possibly just mysqueeze.com. Sourceforge is

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-13 Thread Learnincurve
bpa wrote: > When LMS is stopped there should only be cache.db -IIRC wal is for > process locking and shm is shared memory maybe for performance. I'd > delete all three. I delete cache.db everytime I start LMS as I do > testing with internet streams and caching plays havok with trying to get

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-12 Thread Learnincurve
bpa wrote: > When LMS is stopped there should only be cache.db -IIRC wal is for > process locking and shm is shared memory maybe for performance. I'd > delete all three. I delete cache.db everytime I start LMS as I do > testing with internet streams and caching plays havok with trying to get

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-12 Thread bpa
When LMS is stopped there should only be cache.db -IIRC wal is for process locking and shm is shared memory maybe for performance. I'd delete all three. I delete cache.db everytime I start LMS as I do testing with internet streams and caching plays havok with trying to get reproducible

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-12 Thread kidstypike
Learnincurve wrote: > Thanks for the advice, I see three cache.db files (when the server is > running: > > locate cache.db > /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/cache.db > /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/cache.db-shm > /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/cache.db-wal > > Should I delete all three? >

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-12 Thread Learnincurve
bpa wrote: > Forgot to suggest one of the basics. Clear the caches when LMS is > stopped. Clear the Browser cache and delete LMS cache.db Thanks for the advice, I see three cache.db files (when the server is running: locate cache.db /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/cache.db

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-12 Thread Learnincurve
bpa wrote: > IT could be a DNS issue. Can you enable logging for network.asyncdns > to DEBUG and see what is logged when you try to play a plain internet > stream e.g. something via Tune-in. Here is some network info: # systemd-resolve --status enp2s0 Link 2 (enp2s0) Current Scopes: DNS

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-12 Thread bpa
Forgot to suggest one of the basics. Clear the caches when LMS is stopped. Clear the Browser cache and delete LMS cache.db bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-12 Thread bpa
IT could be a DNS issue. Can you enable logging for network.asyncdns to DEBUG and see what is logged when you try to play a plain internet stream e.g. something via Tune-in. bpa's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-12 Thread Learnincurve
bpa wrote: > Do you have multiple network interfaces ? > > Is all internet LMS functionality broken but local network is OK (i.e > can play files to local network connected player) ? or just some > internet functionality is broken/erratic ? > > edit: > > What is the system > DNS address ?

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-12 Thread bpa
Learnincurve wrote: > Thanks but unfortunately already tried that. :( Do you have multiple network interfaces ? Is all internet LMS functionality broken but local network is OK (i.e can play files to local network connected player) ? or just some internet functionality is broken/erratic ?

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-12 Thread Learnincurve
bpa wrote: > Looks like network issue. > A common problem is where LMS is started before the network connection > is up & running. Then LMS will report no network yet network will be OK > for all other application. > > To check this theory. Just stop & restart LMS - not Ubuntu and not the >

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-12 Thread bpa
Looks like network issue. A common problem is where LMS is started before the network connection is up & running. Then LMS will report no network yet network will be OK for all other application. To check this theory. Just stop & restart LMS - not Ubuntu and not the network.

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-12 Thread Learnincurve
Learnincurve wrote: > Hi, > > I've been running LMS for a few years, with Spotify - Spotty amd > youtube apps. Both have shown up in LMS and on my player (squeezelite), > but were suddenly gone from the LMS web interface (although still > installed. > > The log is listing loads of

[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No network and apps not listing in LMS but are available from squeezelite player

2019-11-10 Thread Learnincurve
Hi, I've been running LMS for a few years, with Spotify - Spotty amd youtube apps. Both have shown up in LMS and on my player (squeezelite), but were suddenly gone from the LMS web interface (although still installed. The log is listing loads of network-related errors, but network is fine from