Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-24 Thread reinholdk


mrw wrote: 
> Thank you, Ralphy.
> 
> Worked successfully on my wine / windows setup, in that only '.' would
> be accepted regardless of locale, particularly in cases where the
> shipped version absolutely required a comma.
> 
> And passed bpa's "what does flac see ?" test.

Same on Win10 with German locale (comma is defined as the decimal
separator).



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-24 Thread bpa


JohnB wrote: 
> bpa, I think the "--" is so that flac will treat media files with file
> names beginning with "-" properly, even though file names starting with
> "-" are pretty unusual.
> 
> (A few days ago I was puzzled about it myself, so checked the flac
> documentation.)

You're right - should have looked up the site documentation - it signals
end of options.

> 
> 
> To encode or decode files that start with a dash, use -- to signal the
> end of options, to keep the filenames themselves from being treated as
> options:
> 
> flac -V -- -01-filename.wav
>



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-24 Thread JohnB


bpa, I think the "--" is so that flac will treat files with file names
beginning with "-" properly, even though file names starting with "-"
are pretty unusual.

(A few days ago I was puzzled myself about it, so checked the flac
documentation.)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-24 Thread bpa


While testing out the fix I noticed in the convert.conf file that the
flac line had an spare "--" between $END$ and $FILE" in the command
line. 
Transcoding seems to work OK if it is deleted -  is it valid/required or
an error (e.g. an option badly deleted).
The floating "--" seems to be in every use of the "[flac]" in
convert.conf.

Any thoughts ?  Is it worth a tidy up as part of the flac executable
change ?


Code:


[flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 $START$ $END$ *-- 
*$FILE$ | [sox] -q -t flac - -t flac -C 0 $RESAMPLE$ -
  




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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-23 Thread mrw


ralphy wrote: 
> A patch3 win32 build is 'available here'
> (https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/utility/flac/flac-patch3-win32.zip/download).
> 
> Runs on XP and newer versions of windows.

Thank you, Ralphy.

Worked successfully on my wine / windows setup, in that only '.' would
be accepted regardless of locale, particularly in cases where the
shipped version absolutely required a comma.

And passed bpa's "what does flac see ?" test.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-23 Thread mrw


I've posted an issue report on the slimserver github as a kick off to
get the problem fixed:

-flac - seeking within files doesn't function in many locales, and
breaks playback-: https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/issues/277

If I got anything wrong or incomplete, my apologies. Please correct as
appropriate.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-23 Thread ralphy


A patch3 win32 build is 'available here'
(https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/utility/flac/flac-patch3-win32.zip/download).

Runs on XP and newer versions of windows.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-23 Thread bpa

paul- wrote: 
> Testing my memory, but there was a reason we picked that specific commit
> listed in the source included in the slimserver-vendor git.  I’m pretty
> sure there were issues with later commits, which might be fixed or
> further broken by now.
> 
> To avoid any potential regressions due to source changes,  a patch that
> applies with the current lms flac source might be best.

I think patch 3 on the specific flac commit used in slimserver vendor is
OK.

BTW for anybody testing on any platform. A way to check that flac "sees"
a locale where decimal point is indicated by a comma is to run a
compression test look at the output ratio. The following decompress flac
to WAV using unpatched flac.


Code:


  /tmp$  LC_ALL=pt_BR.UTF-8  flac --skip=00:05,26 --until=00:21,34 -f -o 
testskip.wav  testflac.flc 
  
  flac 1.3.2
  Copyright (C) 2000-2009  Josh Coalson, 2011-2016  Xiph.Org Foundation
  flac comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.  This is free software, and you are
  welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions.  Type `flac' for details.
  
  testflac.flc: WARNING, can't use existing seektable in input FLAC since the 
input size is changing or unknown, dropping existing SEEKTABLE block...
  testflac.flc: wrote 1254469 bytes, ratio=0,900
  /tmp$  LC_ALL=en_GB.UTF-8  flac --skip=00:05.26 --until=00:21.34 -f -o 
testskip.wav  testflac.flc 
  
  flac 1.3.2
  Copyright (C) 2000-2009  Josh Coalson, 2011-2016  Xiph.Org Foundation
  flac comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.  This is free software, and you are
  welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions.  Type `flac' for details.
  
  testflac.flc: WARNING, can't use existing seektable in input FLAC since the 
input size is changing or unknown, dropping existing SEEKTABLE block...
  testflac.flc: wrote 1254469 bytes, ratio=0.900
  




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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread paul-


Testing my memory, but there was a reason we picked that specific commit
listed in the source included in the slimserver-vendor git.  Im
pretty sure there were issues with later commits, which might be fixed
or further broken by now.

To avoid any potential regressions due to source changes,  a patch that
applies with the current lms flac source might be best.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread bpa


mrw wrote: 
> Goodness me ! Did I get it right ?
> 
> *Edit:* I should have asked: Did google give me the right answers ?
A hat trick in fact.

Tested patch 3 on Windows - it fails on any number with commas which is
expected. I'm not sure why but the patch didn't apply itself properly so
I think I may be used wrong source for 1.3.2 from xiph.org.

I think fixing flac locale to "C" is OK since LMS will only ever use "."
in fractions in "skip" and "until" regardless of locale setting. 

I think "C" locale is in use on PCP,  so the "C" locale has been
reasonably tested in terms of formats and plugins.

My gut feel is to create the simplest patch that does the job - which
means exclusively working with LMS and is easy to align with future
version of flac.
I think this bug has been well and truly squashed.  I think because flac
source is not part of LMS git, a pull request cannot be done - so 
probably put patch in a comment on github
Logitech/slimserver-vendor/flac



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread mrw


bpa wrote: 
> I've built a Windows version of 2nd patch and test gave same result as
> above when the equivalent 4 combinations of "Decimal symbol" and
> "Digital Grouping symbol" are tested.

Goodness me ! Did I get it right ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread bpa


mrw wrote: 
> The first three tests should succeed and the fourth should fail, because
> en_GB doesn't understand ',' as a decimal separator.

I've built a Windows version of 2nd patch and test gave same result as
above when the equivalent 4 combinations of "Decimal symbol" and
"Digital Grouping symbol" are tested.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread mrw


bpa wrote: 
> As expected the Control Panel / Region and language / Additional
> Setting/Numbers - "Decimal symbol" and "Digital Grouping symbol" make
> the difference and take effect immediately.

Sounds promising.

I've made a third patch, attached. The approach here is to simply force
flac to operate in the 'C' locale. It is simpler than the rest, and
probably quite resilient to any future changes in the flac source code.
All of which has much merit, in my view. I've tested on macOS, but not
linux as yet. 

As far as I can see, LMS does not expect its usage of flac in the
transcoder pipelines to be responsive to user locales. So consistent use
of the 'C' locale should be fine, and what is more, thoroughly
predictable. But that assumption does need to be checked more carefully
than I have done to date.

My original thought had been to make this 'switch' controllable, but as
flac sets the locale before examining switches, that may lead to
unanticipated side effects, so not worth bothering. If a user wants to
use flac, they can install their own - this one is for LMS.

I think this might end up as my preferred choice, if the restriction to
the 'C' locale is confirmed to have no deleterious side effects.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread bpa


I've built my own version of the mrw's first patch but with a printf
statement as a way to test whether changes in Windows Regional settings
have immediate effect within the same command prompt window.

As expected the Control Panel / Region and language / Additional
Setting/Numbers - "Decimal symbol" and "Digital Grouping symbol" make
the difference and take effect immediately.

I'll now test mrw's 2nd patch.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread bpa


Ralphy,

Can you build a diagnostic version of flac.exe  to verify what
localisation settings are being "seen" by the executbale.

Just add the line in red to utils.c near mrw's change.


Code:


  
ret += strtod(s, );

flac__utils_printf(stderr, 1, " strtod parsed \"%s\" total returned 
%5.2f \n", s, ret);
if (endptr == s || *endptr)
return false;
  
  



If localisation is active not only will correct value be parsed but
printout will use "," or "." as per locale setting in the time printed.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread bpa


mrw wrote: 
> If this is effective on Windows, and also on the various Unices, then
> maybe that could become the LMS fix.

LANG is not defined by default on Windows.  LANG= syntax is not allowed
- have to use a separate command line using SET.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread mrw


ralphy wrote: 
> I've applied your patch to the source tree (vs2008) I used to build the
> flac.exe that's currently provided with LMS and rebuilt it.
> 
> It's 'available here'
> (https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/utility/flac/flac-nolocale-win32.zip/download).
> 
> 
> 
> I should be able to quickly build a flac.exe with any patches you'd like
> to try using my vs2008 environment.

Thank you, Ralphy. Very helpful.

Although I do not have a Windows box, I do have a macOS box with wine
installed. I've never really tried to use wine, and I have some doubts,
but I was able to confirm the issue.

Turns out one can set the environment that windows under wine sees by
prefixing the command with, say, 'LC_ALL=fr_FR.UTF-8'. This has been
flagged up by reinholdk. And this was an effective test of the various
flac.exe's that I have gathered.

An earlier version of flac.exe distributed with LMS, version 1.2.0,
seems to work fine in any locale. But actually, the flac files produced
under the 'wrong' locale are slightly different, because flac is
truncating the skip specification to integer values.

The flac team fixed that, and version 1.3.2 (which is currently
distributed with LMS) does not truncate the skip specification at the
'strange' decimal separator, but rather refuses to accept it at all.
'ERROR: invalid value for --skip'. So in fixing it, the flac team has
messed us up. This much we have already worked out.

The patched version of flac.exe 1.3.2 that you have kindly provided does
work as we would like. So that first patch of mine does seem to be
effective on my wine/windows set up. Not the same as running it on a
real Windows box, but encouraging.


Here's an experiment that someone with a windows box might try. Is it
effective to set LC_ALL in a custom configuration file ? Or perhaps just
LC_NUMERIC ?
I was thinking along these lines:

Should always work, if perl/LMS passes that LC_ALL over correctly.

Code:


  wav flc * *
# FT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}D:{RESAMPLE=-r %d}
LC_ALL=C [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 $START$ 
$END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t flac - -t flac -C 0 $RESAMPLE$ -
  



Should fail. French boxes don't like "." decimal separators:

Code:


  wav flc * *
# FT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}D:{RESAMPLE=-r %d}
LC_ALL=fr_FR [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 $START$ 
$END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t flac - -t flac -C 0 $RESAMPLE$ -
  



If this is effective on Windows, and also on the various Unices, then
maybe that could become the LMS fix.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread mrw


bpa wrote: 
> My own preference would be to use strtod_l and then make sure it only
> uses the "C" locale - using strtod with different untested locales may
> still have surprises.
> 
> Windows Flac.exe was built with VS so I'm trying to setup it up so I can
> rebuild flac with extra message to be sure it is behaving OK on Windows
> - but MS makes setting up VS2019 for simple command line C applications
> painful. I have an old system with VS2015 setup for socketwrapper which
> is the fallback.

I've drafted up a second version of a patch, which uses the -strtod_l-
approach as you suggest. This is should be resilient to any unexpected
'locale' decimal separator definitions that may emerge in the future.
(Are there any that use anything other than a singleton '.' or ',' at
present ?).

Platform set up is rather more complicated, and I see this as a
drawback, because complexity breed errors.

I've tested it on macOS and on a linux box, and it seems to work as
expected. But I've no idea about the other platforms, or older versions
of libc, etc. You'll see that I've dealt with Windows MSC in what I
think is an appropriate manner, but I haven't been able to test it.

The tests I use are:

Code:


  LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8 ./flac -c --compression-level-0 --skip=2:36.08 
--until=7:29.28 -- flactest.wav >test1.flac
  LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8 ./flac -c --compression-level-0 --skip=2:36,08 
--until=7:29,28 -- flactest.wav >test2.flac
  LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 ./flac -c --compression-level-0 --skip=2:36.08 
--until=7:29.28 -- flactest.wav >test3.flac
  LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 ./flac -c --compression-level-0 --skip=2:36,08 
--until=7:29,28 -- flactest.wav >test4.flac
  


The first three tests should succeed and the fourth should fail, because
en_GB doesn't understand ',' as a decimal separator.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread mrw


bpa wrote: 
> The trouble with my different patch using strtod_l is that Win32 doesn't
> follow the C standard lib and so to create a patch that compiles OK I
> had to get Vs2019 working - which I eventually did.

I think I have now have a patch that would work. Will upload when done.

Let me throw out an alternative thought:

How about patching flac to always use "C" locale unless, say, a specific
command line option is applied to restore regular behaviour. My
understanding is that standard behaviour is for the program to start in
"C" locale, and only switch to something else, e.g. user environment, if
the program explicitly switches it. I assume that this would apply to
all platforms, because it's C, right ? I have no practical experience of
this, and would be happy to be put right.

That would be very easy, I think, just comment out/skip over the locale
setting bit in -main.c-.

I don't know whether this would have any adverse side effects elsewhere
within LMS, though.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread bpa


ralphy wrote: 
> I should be able to quickly build a flac.exe with any patches you'd like
> to try using my vs2008 environment.

The trouble with my different patch using strtod_l is that Win32 doesn't
follow the C standard lib and so to create a patch that compiles OK I
had to get Vs2019 working - which I eventually did.

I managed to get a locale setup for Ubuntu and how to test
success/failure for EN and PT locales.
I haven't managed to get Windows changes in Region setting to break Flac
- this is necessary to be sure that flac is fixed OK on Win7 as well.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread JohnB


I am happy to try out/test the patched ffmpeg builds for Windows 7 and
Ubuntu (the two LMS systems I have).



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread ralphy


mrw wrote: 
> I've drafted up a patch to flac, and have attached it for any one
> interested. I'm no programmer, so any comments welcome before I take it
> further.
> 
> It appears to be working successfully on my local arm box, but does need
> to be subjected to more rigorous testing, and cross platform testing.
> 
> Key point is that I have avoided messing with locales, etc., and simply
> used one additional function from the standard C  library, so
> I hope it would be portable to all platforms.

I've applied your patch to the source tree (vs2008) I used to build the
flac.exe that's currently provided with LMS and rebuilt it.

It's 'available here'
(https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/utility/flac/flac-nolocale-win32.zip/download).

bpa wrote: 
> I haven't been able to reproiduce the prpoblem. Trying to install PT_BR
> locale on my ubuntu has failed - not sure why.
> Window flac.exe doesn't fail no matter what I do with Region etc.
> 
> My own preference would be to use strtod_l and then make sure it only
> uses the "C" locale - using strtod with different untested locales may
> still have surprises.
> 
> Windows Flac.exe was built with VS so I'm trying to setup it up so I can
> rebuild flac with extra message to be sure it is behaving OK on Windows
> - but MS makes setting up VS2019 for simple command line C applications
> painful. I have an old system with VS2015 setup for socketwrapper which
> is the fallback.

I should be able to quickly build a flac.exe with any patches you'd like
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread bpa


slartibartfast wrote: 
> But the scanner log that was posted didn't show any details of which
> folder if any was scanned and it completed in zero seconds.

I think if we can understand what is happening during and after scanning
and fix it  - then most of the problem will be resolved.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread d6jg


carlmart wrote: 
> OK, let's see if I can sum up what were the problems I had, which I
> hadn't and which were solved.
> 
> 1) Problem playing large wav or flac files. This was my greatest
> concern, because I could open the file and see the tracks inside with
> LMS, but couldn't play them. Problem solved. 
> 
> 2) Problem using cue to play anything. After being allowed to play large
> wav files, I compromised that I could live without the cues, even I
> still would like to be able to use them. Problem not solved.
> 
> 3) Problems with single wav or flac track files. Never had any, they
> were the only files that always played fine. 
> 
> I put a Playlist folder in my c:, as was adviced. 
> 
> Still use the c:\Musica as my sole folder for audio. For me it keeps
> things simple, in one place and easy to find.  
> 
> That \Musica folder has subfolders organized alphabetically by artist or
> other categories, which then hold the proper albums. 
> 
> Some albums have their own sufolders. But I have no problem getting to
> them, either with LMS or Jivelite on PCP.
> 
> In practical terms, once I get to the album and open it, I can play the
> tracks straight away in the absolute majority of them.  
> 
> Now, if anyone tells me that a different organization will allow me to
> use cue files, I may try it. But default Windows folders with Users >,,,
> I prefer not to use. They put too many things there that would be
> confusing when using Jivelite-PCP
> 
> I'm not interested in LMS to open any video folder or subfolder, so I
> deleted them from LMS media folders.


If you move to LMS on Linux in due course then the following is the sort
of structure that people will probably recommend

/storage/Music/FLAC
/storage/Music/WAV
/storage/Music/Mp3

/storage/Music/playlists

The first three folders would be set to be scanned

Underneath FLAC, WAV or Mp3 would be artist/album/tracks

NB. The advice to put playlists outside of the scan tree is to stop LMS
reading the contents of any playlist as additional items - there have
been cases of multiple albums being inserted into the database when only
one really exists. Another Windows only problem was shortcuts where a
folder may contain an accidentally created shortcut up a level. This
used to cause the scanner big problems. It may have been fixed but I
don't know.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread slartibartfast


But the scanner log that was posted didn't show any details of which
folder if any was scanned and it completed in zero seconds.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread JohnB


And the other thing is we don't know whether the disappearing files
problem is something that has just recently occurred (as I, perhaps
mistakenly, read it) or whether it as present before.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread carlmart


OK, let's see if I can sum up what were the problems I had, which I
hadn't and which were solved.

1) Problem playing large wav or flac files. This was my greatest
concern, because I could open the file and see the tracks inside with
LMS, but couldn't play them. Problem solved. 

2) Problem using cue to play anything. After being allowed to play large
wav files, I compromised that I could live without the cues, even I
still would like to be able to use them. Problem not solved.

3) Problems with single wav or flac track files. Never had any, they
were the only files that always played fine. 

I put a Playlist folder in my c:, as was adviced. 

Still use the c:\Musica as my sole folder for audio. For me it keeps
things simple, in one place and easy to find.  

That \Musica folder has subfolders organized alphabetically by artist or
other categories, which then hold the proper albums. 

Some albums have their own sufolders. But I have no problem getting to
them, either with LMS or Jivelite on PCP.

In practical terms, once I get to the album and open it, I can play the
tracks straight away in the absolute majority of them.  

Now, if anyone tells me that a different organization will allow me to
use cue files, I may try it. But default Windows folders with Users >,,,
I prefer not to use. They put too many things there that would be
confusing when using Jivelite-PCP

I'm not interested in LMS to open any video folder or subfolder, so I
deleted them from LMS media folders.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread bpa


kidstypike wrote: 
> carlmart is probably suffering the consequences of a sloppy file
> system.
> 
> But who are we to tell him where to stick them?
While file location is unconventional - I don't think it is the root
cause as logs have shown - files have been found and scanned - yet no
database files in cache. Are they created somewhere else, are they just
hidden or are they created and something deletes them or something else
?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread kidstypike


bpa wrote: 
> Sounds like you've got them better trained. Often mine have "lost" an
> important file - "must be a virus". When I look where their personal
> files are stored - they are everywhere -  top level directories, on
> desktops, excel files in Pictures, etc. - no apparent order whatsoever,
> directories created anywhere and everywhere and files left in odd
> places.

Well exactly.

carlmart is probably suffering the consequences of a sloppy file system.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread JohnB


bpa wrote: 
> Also this solution needs a Windows version ffmpeg to be downloaded &
> installed - probably in LMS Bin/MSWin32 directory

I lost track that ffmpeg isn't part of the default LMS install (I had a
copy in my LMS system, but that probably goes back to when we were
experimenting with BBC iPlayer's new HLS)

To avoid confusion, I've amended my post to include how to install
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread bpa


kidstypike wrote: 
> Huh, you've lost me with that one. I have 5 siblings, and I'm their
> first turn-to for help! :(
Sounds like you've got them better trained. Often mine have "lost" an
important file - "must be a virus". When I look where their personal
files are stored - they are everywhere -  top level directories, on
desktops, excel files in Pictures, etc. - no apparent order whatsoever,
directories created anywhere and everywhere and files left in odd
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread kidstypike


bpa wrote: 
> I'm guessing you don't have siblings who use windows and come for help.

Huh, you've lost me with that one. I have 5 siblings, and I'm their
first turn-to for help! :(



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread bpa


kidstypike wrote: 
> Totally agree. If you look at the carlmarts picture 'here'
> (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?110871-Playing-cue-files-with-LMS=948516=1#post948516),
> on the left it shows the C drive expanded, surely this isn't normal
> windows practise to have all that junk in there?
> 
> The music folder should be under C > Users > Username.

I'm guessing you don't have siblings who use windows and come for help.

Judging by the names of other directories - carlmart has some technical
stuff and prefers to avoid Windows trees especially for some old 3rd
party applications or separating private stuff from personal. 
I have top level directories like that.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread bpa


slartibartfast wrote: 
> When I installed LMS on Windows the default music directory was in my
> user directory not the root directory and the playlist folder was inside
> the music folder. There is something not right about any of this.

You're right and I think there are some pieces of information I am
missing - so I'll participate as long I think I am useful but as Windows
is not my main system and I don't use wav+cue, I just try to understand
what could make LMS behave as described.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread kidstypike


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Which bit? Correct folder or doubting sanity or both?[emoji3]
> 
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Both . . . everything. :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread kidstypike


slartibartfast wrote: 
> When I installed LMS on Windows the default music directory was in my
> user directory not the root directory and the playlist folder was inside
> the music folder. There is something not right about any of this.
> 
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Totally agree. If you look at the carlmarts picture 'here'
(https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?110871-Playing-cue-files-with-LMS=948516=1#post948516),
on the left it shows the C drive expanded, surely this isn't normal
windows practise to have all that junk in there?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread slartibartfast


kidstypike wrote: 
> Me too. ;)Which bit? Correct folder or doubting sanity or both?[emoji3]

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread slartibartfast


bpa wrote: 
> There are so many contradictions. I cannot understand how no albums in
> Info page, yet LMS has managed to play a specific track which appeared
> in Albums and not under Music Folder.
> 
> From debugging many plugin issues, I am sceptical of a user's
> interpretation/perception of symptoms/ problems  - I prefer to see a log
> or a image rather than a user's interpretation.  This is not the user's
> fault.
> 
> In carlmart case - LMS suggested using Musica which is Windows Music
> folder - this is normal Windows and from the  player.source log it is
> the location of the test wav file.  Also it is not clear if there are
> subdirectories or just one directory full of wav+cue file.
> I find LMS suggesting putting playlists in the Music directory
> problematic - I suspect there are issues when they are mixed.
> 
> edit:
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > [19-08-18 15:04:10.3418] Slim::Player::StreamingController::nextsong (890) 
The next song is number 5, was 4
  > [19-08-18 15:04:10.3427] Slim::Player::Song::new (108) index 5 -> 
file:///C:/Musica/Al%20Di%20Meola/Al%20Di%20Meola%20-1978-%20Casino%20(Master%20Sound)/Al%20Di%20Meola%20-%20Casino.wav#1744.067-2313.626
  > [19-08-18 15:04:10.3428] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingSt 
ate (2387) new streaming state TRACKWAIT
  > [19-08-18 15:04:10.3434] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_playersMessage 
(797) Now Playing: 
file:///C:/Musica/Al%20Di%20Meola/Al%20Di%20Meola%20-1978-%20Casino%20(Master%20Sound)/Al%20Di%20Meola%20-%20Casino.wav#1744.067-2313.626
  > 

> > When I installed LMS on Windows the default music directory was in my
user directory not the root directory and the playlist folder was inside
the music folder. There is something not right about any of this.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread bpa


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I am still not convinced he is scanning the correct folder but to be
> honest this thread has me doubting my sanity.

There are so many contradictions. I cannot understand how no albums in
Info page, yet LMS has managed to play a specific track which appeared
in Albums and not under Music Folder.

>From debugging many plugin issues, I am sceptical of a user's
interpretation/perception of symptoms/ problems  - I prefer to see a log
or a image rather than a user's interpretation.  This is not the user's
fault.

In carlmart case - LMS suggested using Musica which is Windows Music
folder - this is normal Windows and from the  player.source log it is
the location of the test wav file.  Also it is not clear if there are
subdirectories or just one directory full of wav+cue file.
I find LMS suggesting putting playlists in the Music directory
problematic - I suspect there are issues when they are mixed.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread kidstypike


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I am still not convinced he is scanning the correct folder but to be
> honest this thread has me doubting my sanity.

Me too. ;)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread slartibartfast


bpa wrote: 
> That does seem to be the case but early on carlmart seemed to be unsure
> of their way around LMS  and so I wonder whether the info is reliable -
> (e.g. was "Apply" button was clicked after changing FileTypes) -
> especially as their system was in PT and advice was in EN
> 
> That said, the LMS scanning behaviour on their system is odd - so there
> could be other problems lurking.I am still not convinced he is scanning the 
> correct folder but to be
honest this thread has me doubting my sanity.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread bpa


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I thought he couldn't play WAV as WAV either.

That does seem to be the case but early on carlmart seemed to be unsure
of their way around LMS  and so I wonder whether the info is reliable -
(e.g. was "Apply" button was clicked after changing FileTypes) -
especially as their system was in PT and advice was in EN

That said, the LMS scanning behaviour on their system is odd - so there
could be other problems lurking.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread slartibartfast


bpa wrote: 
> calrmart problem is unusual. The problem fiels are wav Cue.  The WAV
> wouldn't play when flac had a skip parameter. Skip parameters are used
> when LMS has cue file.
> 
> The log of carlmart playing a track showed that LMS selected a short
> segment - the last track of the album's wav file as defined by the cue
> file that was posted.  Yet the album tracks don't show up when clicking
> on the cue file (which acts as a playlist) when played through Music
> Folder.
> 
> carlmart has two problems
> 1. scanning - albums from wav+cue seem to be scanned and then disappear
> - otherwise how did the log that was posted have the correct track info
> 2. playing the selected wav track from the Album wav file - this turns
> out to be a localisation issue in combination with transcoding to Flac. 
> If carlmart had an EN locale this problem would not have shown up or if
> transcoding was disabled as many wav+cue users do (i.e. play WAV as WAV)

I thought he couldn't play WAV as WAV either.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread bpa


Paul Webster wrote: 
> If carlmart is playing the big wav file as a single track (ie the cue
> file not appearing to have been processed to split it into individual
> tracks) then it will not be possible to jump between the contained audio
> tracks.

kidstypike wrote: 
> Yes, good thought, you need to have *playlist* of more than one track to
> use the next/previous buttons.

calrmart problem is unusual. The problem fiels are wav Cue.  The WAV
wouldn't play when flac had a skip parameter. Skip parameters are used
when LMS has cue file.

The log of carlmart playing a track showed that LMS selected a short
segment - the last track of the album's wav file as defined by the cue
file that was posted.  Yet the album tracks don't show up when clicking
on the cue file (which acts as a playlist) when played through Music
Folder.

carlmart has two problems
1. scanning - albums from wav+cue seem to be scanned and then disappear
- otherwise how did the log that was posted have the correct track info
2. playing the selected wav track from the Album wav file - this turns
out to be a localisation issue in combination with transcoding to Flac. 
If carlmart had an EN locale this problem would not have shown up or if
transcoding was disabled as many wav+cue users do (i.e. play WAV as WAV)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread kidstypike


Paul Webster wrote: 
> If carlmart is playing the big wav file as a single track (ie the cue
> file not appearing to have been processed to split it into individual
> tracks) then it will not be possible to jump between the contained audio
> tracks.

Yes, good thought, you need to have *playlist* of more than one track to
use the next/previous buttons.

But who knows?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-22 Thread Paul Webster


If carlmart is playing the big wav file as a single track (ie the cue
file not appearing to have been processed to split it into individual
tracks) then it will not be possible to jump between the contained audio
tracks.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread slartibartfast


JohnB wrote: 
> carlmart,
> 
> As I understand it, bpa has given you 2 options as ways of getting round
> the wav/cue problem right now. On Windows.
> 
> Also people are working on a patch for flac.exe which will probably be
> available in the near future (these guys are good). This will sort the
> issue properly.
> 
> The 2 options the bpa has given you are:
> 
> *a) to stream the wav/cue data as PCM instead of flac*, from your PC to
> your player. This avoids using flac.exe but it might strain a WiFi
> connection - a wired connection would be better for this.
> 
> To do it:
> 
> - Go to Settings/Advanced
> - Select Filetypes from the drop down list (top left)
> - Scroll down to the WAV section
> - set FLAC (flac/sox) to disabled.
> This should mean that LMS uses PCM (Native) for WAV and by-passes
> flac.exe (where the problem is).
> 
> 
> *b) to create a "custom-convert.conf" text file* in the "C:\Program
> Files (x86)\Squeezebox\server" folder - containing the following:
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > wav flc * *
  > # FT:{START=-ss %s}U:{END=-t %u}D:{RESAMPLE=--resample %D}
  > [ffmpeg] -loglevel quiet $END$  -f wav -i $FILE$ -f flac  $START$ - | [sox] 
-q -t flac - -t flac -C 0 $RESAMPLE$ -
  > 

> > 
> 
> LMS will use the template in the custom-convert.conf file instead of
> the default.
> 
> This will only start/end the tracks on whole seconds though.Now I am even 
> more confused. I thought carlmart had issues playing wave
natively at the start of this thread. He couldn't play wave + cue files
with any file type settings.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread bpa


JohnB wrote: 
> 
> *b) to create a "custom-convert.conf" text file* in the "C:\Program
> Files (x86)\Squeezebox\server" folder - containing the following:
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > wav flc * *
  > # FT:{START=-ss %s}U:{END=-t %u}D:{RESAMPLE=--resample %D}
  > [ffmpeg] -loglevel quiet $END$  -f wav -i $FILE$ -f flac  $START$ - | 
[sox] -q -t flac - -t flac -C 0 $RESAMPLE$ -
  > 

> > 
> 
> LMS will use the template in the custom-convert.conf file instead of
> the default.
> 
> This will only start/end the tracks on whole seconds though.

Also this solution needs a Windows version ffmpeg to be downloaded &
installed - probably in LMS Bin/MSWin32 directory



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread bpa


mrw wrote: 
> Well, I've been having a further look at this.
> 
> I think I do prefer your -strtod_l + C locale - approach, in principle,
> together with my own predilection of a fallback to the system's locale
> in case of failure.
> 
> The coding is much sweeter and shorter, at least on macOS, which
> pleasingly accepts a 'NULL' locale as meaning the C locale, and only
> requires an extra -# include -. And I think FreeBSD follows
> the same pattern.
> 
> But, as far as I can see, both GNU C and VS will require the creation of
> a 'C locale' object to be passed to -strtod_l-, twice, meaning more
> lines of code. And neither want the -# include -. Oh, and VS
> calls it -_strtod_l-.
> 
> So while we can get a much nicer bit of code actually doing the job,
> there is a certain amount of infernal platform dependent setup required
> to achieve it that might, in reality, over-complicate matters.
> 
> MinGW apparently doesn't implement it at all. At least not according to
> a 2017 reference that I found.
> 
> I shall sleep on it.

Some users seem to prefer using a "C" locale rather than NULL especially
in this context.  Again it is a definitive choice as I think NULL locale
may mean default which may vary on different system MacOS, Win32,BSD,
Linux, etc.

Code:


ret += strtod_l(s, , newlocale(LC_ALL_MASK, "C", NULL));
  



xlocale.h seems to have been removed in later version of glib so that
could be wrinkle.
I also saw Win32 has _strtod_l rather than strtod_l so somehting like
following is needed/

Code:


  #ifdef _WIN32
  #define strtod_l _strtod_l
  #endif
  
  




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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread mrw


carlmart wrote: 
> When I get to install my Linux server system I will come back to this
> forum to get LMS to work with the Linux server.

Just make sure that you learn how to operate the Linux server first. Get
the feel of how to use the 'command line', how files can be edited, what
'file permissions' mean, etc. How to use the Linux distribution's
package installer. It will be so much more productive after you've done
that.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread mrw


bpa wrote: 
> My own preference would be to use strtod_l and then make sure it only
> uses the "C" locale - using strtod with different untested locales may
> still have surprises.
> 
> Windows Flac.exe was built with VS so I'm trying to setup it up so I can
> rebuild flac with extra message to be sure it is behaving OK on Windows
> - but MS makes setting up VS2019 for simple command line C applications
> painful. I have an old system with VS2015 setup for socketwrapper which
> is the fallback.

Well, I've been having a further look at this.

I think I do prefer your -strtod_l + C locale - approach, in principle,
together with my own predilection of a fallback to the system's locale
in case of failure.

The coding is much sweeter and shorter, at least on macOS, which
pleasingly accepts a 'NULL' locale as meaning the C locale, and only
requires an extra -# include -. And I think FreeBSD follows
the same pattern.

But, as far as I can see, both GNU C and VS will require the creation of
a 'C locale' object to be passed to -strtod_l-, twice, meaning more
lines of code. And neither want the -# include -. Oh, and VS
calls it -_strtod_l-.

So while we can get a much nicer bit of code actually doing the job,
there is a certain amount of infernal platform dependent setup required
to achieve it that might, in reality, over-complicate matters.

MinGW apparently doesn't implement it at all. At least not according to
a 2017 reference that I found.

I shall sleep on it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread JohnB


carlmart,

As I understand it, bpa has given you 2 options as ways of getting round
the wav/cue problem right now. On Windows.

Also people are working on a patch for flac.exe which will probably be
available in the near future (these guys are good).

The 2 options the bpa has given you are:

*a) to stream the wav/cue data as PCM instead of flac*, from your PC to
your player. This avoids using flac.exe but it might strain a WiFi
connection - a wired connection would be better for this.

To do it:

- Go to Settings/Advanced
- Select Filetypes from the drop down list (top left)
- Scroll down to the WAV section
- set FLAC (flac/sox) to disabled.


*b) to create a "custom-convert.conf" text file* in the "C:\Program
Files (x86)\Squeezebox\server" folder - containing the following:


Code:

wav flc * *
# FT:{START=-ss %s}U:{END=-t %u}D:{RESAMPLE=--resample %D}
[ffmpeg] -loglevel quiet $END$  -f wav -i $FILE$ -f flac  $START$ - | 
[sox] -q -t flac - -t flac -C 0 $RESAMPLE$ -
  



This will only start/end the tracks on whole seconds though.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread carlmart


To all of you, thank you for trying to help, and please excuse my
impatience or plain ignorance, or my impatience due to plain ignorance.


The task of this project was to have a very good audio managing system,
that I could control in my listening room with plain remote controls (no
cell phones or tablets). 

It was very important that this system could play all type of files, and
LMS/PCP does. 

When I get to install my Linux server system I will come back to this
forum to get LMS to work with the Linux server. Perhaps we can get the
cue files to work. 

In the meantime, a big thanks again!



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread kidstypike


carlmart wrote: 
> 
> 
> Now another question about LMS, and Jivelite too: is there a control
> button to advance to the following track and go back to the track
> before? Apparently not, just asking.

I really don't know why I'm doing this :confused::confused::confused:

Have you ever considered buying a wind-up radio?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread JohnB


carlmart,

The suggestion to stop LMS, delete the library.db file (or all the *.db
files) the restart LMS was to clear all the previously scanned
information and give you an absolutely clean set of database files.

(Once LMS was restarted (after deleting the *.db files) LMS would
automatically do a full scan and recreate the database files.)

When you looked at the cache folder, part of the confusion you had was
because your Windows Explorer is set to hide the extensions (filetypes)
of known file types, therefore the "library.db" file showed as "library"
on your Windows Explorer.

I know this is the default setting for new W7 installs but I think it is
absolutely crazy. You can set Windows Explorer to show all filetypes by
:
- Open the Control Panel
- Click on "Appearance and Personalization"
- Click on "Folder Options"
- Click on the "View" tab
- Untick the "Hide extensions for known file types"
- Click on "Apply"
- Click on "OK"



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread mrw


carlmart wrote: 
> Now another question about LMS, and Jivelite too: is there a control
> button to advance to the following track and go back to the track
> before? Apparently not, just asking.

Yes, but I'm not going to add to your and my confusion by trying to show
you where it is. I shall just say that in LMS at the top of the right
hand pane which shows you the tracks currently playing there are some
arrow type buttons that do this. I think you need to spend some quiet
time experimenting, studying, and getting the feel of the system.

I hope that makes sense. If it doesn't, sorry, but I've been using the
system for long enough that these things are second nature, and I don't
know what I used not to know.

I don't use Jivelite at all, so I can't tell you about that.

As regards cue/wav files, they ought to appear just as if they
represented an album, with separate tracks. But we know why they don't
right now, because you eventually managed to show us the problem. But we
do have a working linux fix, and probably there will be proper fix in
due course.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread bpa


carlmart wrote: 
> OK, sorry, I hadn't understood that db files were data base files. 
> 
> But I still don't get this rescan sequence to clear library and restart
> everything, and how it relates to scanner log, what it means. 
> 
> If I do that I clear all the album list in LMS, and I have to rescan the
> Media Folder (c:\musica) to get them back. What is it I am missing?

The scanning part of LMS - looks at audio & playlist files, examines the
metadata and cue files and generate a database with records for tracks.
This enables the various menu to be generated.

If you enable logging in the scanning process - most of it will be saved
in scanner.log and will indicate the processing of each file.
However there are some circumstances when logs from scanning will be
saved in the server.log such as cue file.

To understand why no albums are appearing after the scanning process -
need to check what happens during the scanning process from a clean
start (i.e. no databases) and whether it looks normal.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread carlmart


In spite of my confusion and efforts to understand the logic of how
these things work, I must say I am very pleased that most of the
problems I had have been solved. 

So here goes a big thanks for what you already helped me achieve. 

Perhaps I may get or not to use the cue file as I was used to with VLC,
but there seems to be a working alternative to that, which is clicking
in All musics, which starts playing the whole album. 

Now another question about LMS, and Jivelite too: is there a control
button to advance to the following track and go back to the track
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread carlmart


kidstypike wrote: 
> I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at.
> 
> I've just done as I suggested, (deleted Library.db) restarted LMS, and a
> scan is already running . . . finished, and look at the speed of it!
> 
> 

OK, sorry, I hadn't understood that db files were data base files. 

But I still don't get this rescan sequence to clear library and restart
everything, and how it relates to scanner log, what it means. 

If I do that I clear all the album list in LMS, and I have to rescan the
Media Folder (c:\musica) to get them back. What is it I am missing?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread kidstypike


dolodobendan wrote: 
> I misread, sorry. To my defense, I was having a Harvey Wallbanger at the
> time. :p (I thought you suggested wiping the whole library (aka the
> whole cache folder)).

Don't advise in forums when you've had a couple is my advice. And I
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread kidstypike


dolodobendan wrote: 
> 'Not hiding file extensions'
> (https://www.howtogeek.com/205086/beginner-how-to-make-windows-show-file-extensions/)
> might also help.
> 
> 
> 
> Too easy. (Also, this might trigger errors, if the the players' current
> playlists are not deleted. But why, you might ask. Good question!)

I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at.

I've just done as I suggested, (deleted Library.db) restarted LMS, and a
scan is already running . . . finished, and look at the speed of it!

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread dolodobendan


kidstypike wrote: 
> Oh dear, when LMS is stopped you don't see all the files.

'Not hiding file extensions'
(https://www.howtogeek.com/205086/beginner-how-to-make-windows-show-file-extensions/)
might also help.

kidstypike wrote: 
> So, with LMS stopped, just delete the Library file and restart LMS, this
> should initiate a rescan.

Too easy. (Also, this might trigger errors, if the the players' current
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread kidstypike


carlmart wrote: 
> No files like that on my Squeezebox's cache.

Oh dear, when LMS is stopped you don't see all the files.

So, with LMS stopped, just delete the Library file and restart LMS, this
should initiate a rescan.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread d6jg


Just a thought
There used to be scanning problems if your media folder (c:\musica)
contains videos.
Does it ?
And is your playlist folder outside c:\musica example c:\playlists - it
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread carlmart


JohnB wrote: 
> Unless things have changed, I think that carlmart has the correct music
> library folder (C:\Musica)
> 
> Just in order to have a clean start, what I would do is the following
> (no guarantees it will solve what ever the problem is):
> 
> Stop LMS (right click on the task bar icon and select "Stop Logitech
> Media Server"
> 
> Within Windows Explorer navigate to "C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache"
> 
> Delete all the files with the following file types:
> .db
> .db-shm
> .db-wal
> 
> Start LMS (right click on the task bar icon and select "Start Logitech
> Media Server"
> 
> LMS will now automatically do a full scan and re-create the database
> files.

No files like that on my Squeezebox's cache.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread slartibartfast


kidstypike wrote: 
> Hmm, there's a line missing that tells which folder was scanned, here's
> mine:
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > [19-08-21 18:39:23.0635] main::main (205) Starting Logitech Media 
Server scanner (v7.9.2, 1565967976, Fri Aug 16 17:08:05 WEDT 2019) perl 
5.014001[19-08-21 18:39:23.1830] Slim::Schema::forceCommit (2144) Warning: 
Trying to commit transactions before DB is initialized!
  > [19-08-21 18:39:26.0520] Slim::Music::Import::runImporter (511) Starting 
Slim::Media::MediaFolderScan scan
  > [19-08-21 18:39:26.0527] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::rescan (181) 
Discovering audio files in O:\Squeezebox Music

> > Go into settings/advanced/logging and set scan scanner to debug. Click
apply and then redo the scan.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread JohnB


Unless things have changed, I think that carlmart has the correct music
library folder (C:\Musica)

Just in order to have a clean start, what I would do is the following
(no guarantees it will solve what ever the problem is):

Stop LMS (right click on the task bar icon and select "Stop Logitech
Media Server"

Within Windows Explorer navigate to "C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache"

Delete all the files with the following file types:
.db
.db-shm
.db-wal

Start LMS (right click on the task bar icon and select "Start Logitech
Media Server"

LMS will now automatically do a full scan and re-create the database
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread kidstypike


carlmart wrote: 
> Scanner log after rescan.

Hmm, there's a line missing that tells which folder was scanned, here's
mine:


Code:

[19-08-21 18:39:23.0635] main::main (205) Starting Logitech Media Server 
scanner (v7.9.2, 1565967976, Fri Aug 16 17:08:05 WEDT 2019) perl 
5.014001[19-08-21 18:39:23.1830] Slim::Schema::forceCommit (2144) Warning: 
Trying to commit transactions before DB is initialized!
  [19-08-21 18:39:26.0520] Slim::Music::Import::runImporter (511) Starting 
Slim::Media::MediaFolderScan scan
  [19-08-21 18:39:26.0527] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::rescan (181) 
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread carlmart


> 
> [19-08-21 15:12:11.0740] main::main (205) Starting Logitech Media Server
> scanner (v7.9.2, 1565967976, Fri Aug 16 17:08:05 WEDT 2019) perl
> 5.014001
> [19-08-21 15:12:11.1527] Slim::Schema::forceCommit (2144) Warning:
> Trying to commit transactions before DB is initialized!
> [19-08-21 15:12:16.2769] Slim::Music::Import::runImporter (511) Starting
> Slim::Media::MediaFolderScan scan
> [19-08-21 15:12:16.2772] Slim::Music::Import::endImporter (643)
> Completed Slim::Media::MediaFolderScan Scan in 0 seconds.
> [19-08-21 15:12:16.2776] Slim::Music::Import::runImporter (511) Starting
> Slim::Music::PlaylistFolderScan scan
> [19-08-21 15:12:16.2779] Slim::Music::Import::runImporter (511) Starting
> Slim::Plugin::FullTextSearch::Plugin scan
> [19-08-21 15:12:16.2783]
> Slim::Plugin::FullTextSearch::Plugin::_rebuildIndex (413) Starting
> fulltext index build
> [19-08-21 15:12:16.2784]
> Slim::Plugin::FullTextSearch::Plugin::_rebuildIndex (417) Initialize
> fulltext table
> [19-08-21 15:12:16.2789]
> Slim::Plugin::FullTextSearch::Plugin::_rebuildIndex (430) Create
> fulltext index for tracks
> [19-08-21 15:12:16.3111]
> Slim::Plugin::FullTextSearch::Plugin::_rebuildIndex (440) Create
> fulltext index for albums
> [19-08-21 15:12:16.3121]
> Slim::Plugin::FullTextSearch::Plugin::_rebuildIndex (449) Create
> fulltext index for contributors
> [19-08-21 15:12:16.3125]
> Slim::Plugin::FullTextSearch::Plugin::_rebuildIndex (459) Create
> fulltext index for playlists
> [19-08-21 15:12:16.3142]
> Slim::Plugin::FullTextSearch::Plugin::_rebuildIndex (494) Optimize
> fulltext index
> [19-08-21 15:12:16.3170]
> Slim::Plugin::FullTextSearch::Plugin::_rebuildIndex (509) Fulltext index
> build done!
> [19-08-21 15:12:16.3171] Slim::Music::Import::endImporter (643)
> Completed Slim::Plugin::FullTextSearch::Plugin Scan in 0 seconds.
> [19-08-21 15:12:16.3176] Slim::Music::Artwork::precacheAllArtwork (637)
> Starting precacheArtwork for 0 albums
> [19-08-21 15:12:16.3177] Slim::Music::Import::endImporter (643)
> Completed precacheArtwork Scan in 0 seconds.
> [19-08-21 15:12:16.3180] Slim::Music::Import::runScanPostProcessing
> (435) Starting Database optimization.
> [19-08-21 15:12:16.3688] Slim::Music::Import::endImporter (643)
> Completed dbOptimize Scan in 0 seconds. 

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread kidstypike


carlmart wrote: 
> so?...
> 
> You want me to copy the log when the albums are zero?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread slartibartfast


carlmart wrote: 
> So?...
> 
> You want me to copy the log when the albums are zero?It will tell you which 
> folder was scanned. 

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread carlmart


kidstypike wrote: 
> The Scanner log is at the bottom of the page in your picture.

So?...

You want me to copy the log when the albums are zero?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread Man in a van


@carlmart

Are you using the Windows folder "Music" to hold your files, this is the
LMS default?

Playlist default is

C:\Users\ronni\Music\Playlists

When you go to Settings > Basic > Media Folders  click on Browse and re-
navigated to the actual folder that holds your files.

Click on that folder and the pathway will appear in the Media Folder Box

With the folder selected slick on the small + and you should see your
files/folders in the dropdown.

This confirms you are in the correct location.

Leave  "Music" highlighted and close the box

Perform your rescan as desired

If your files are elsewhere navigate to that location

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread slartibartfast


carlmart wrote: 
> I had shown it to you what happened when doing this:
> 
> Rescan Media Library:
> - choose: Clear library and rescan everything
> - click on Rescan (Ler Directoria)
> 
> Click on "Scanning - View Progress"
> 
> Look at the albums: they are zeroed. 
> 
> To get them back I have to rescan c:\musica. 
> 
> Or is that a step that you are not mentioning?Click on scanner log at the 
> bottom of the information tab.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread JohnB


That is very strange behaviour. I almost always use the Rescan button at
the bottom - alongside "Rescan Media Library"

I assume you clicked on "Apply" after doing any changes and before the
Rescan?

One thing, though it is probably not related: you have named your Media
Library Name as "c:\musica". I would change that to something like "My
Music" or something of your choice.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread kidstypike


carlmart wrote: 
> I had shown it to you what happened when doing this:
> 
> Rescan Media Library:
> - choose: Clear library and rescan everything
> - click on Rescan (Ler Directoria)
> 
> Click on "Scanning - View Progress"
> 
> Look at the albums: they are zeroed. 
> 
> To get them back I have to rescan c:\musica. 
> 
> Or is that a step that you are not mentioning?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread carlmart


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Show us the scanner log.
> 

I had shown it to you what happened when doing this:

Rescan Media Library:
- choose: Clear library and rescan everything
- click on Rescan (Ler Directoria)

Click on "Scanning - View Progress"

Look at the albums: they are zeroed. 

To get them back I have to rescan c:\musica. 

Or is that a step that you are not mentioning?


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread slartibartfast


carlmart wrote: 
> So far so good. Until this point things go fine and albums are there.
> 
> 
> 
> This step makes all the albums disappear. I have to click again on the
> scan button up above, to the right of c:\musica to find the albums back.
> 
> 
> Why is that?Show us the scanner log.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread carlmart


JohnB wrote: 
> Forgive be for butting in but I suggest:
> 
> In Web browser interface:
> 
> Select Settings - you should end up on the Settings tab
> 
> Media Folders:
> - only have C:\Musica (using the top slot, as you already have)
> - delete the C:\Users\cem\Videos
> - delete the C:\Users\cem\Pictures
> so you only have one entry: C:\Musica, in the top slot
> (you can put the Videos, Pictures back after everything is working
> properly, if you really want to)
> 
> Make sure the check box alongside C:\Musica is ticked
> 
> Playlists Folder (Directoria com Playlists)
> - create folder on your hard drive such as C:\Playlists (or a name of
> your choice)
> - enter C:\Playlists (or whatever you created) in the field
> 
> Then - click on Apply (bottom right)

So far so good. Until this point things go fine and albums are there.

> 
> Then:
> 
> Rescan Media Library:
> - choose: Clear library and rescan everything
> - click on Rescan (Ler Directoria)
> 
> Click on "Scanning - View Progress"
> (This will take you to the Information tab and you can see how the scan
> in progressing and see the final results.)

This step makes all the albums disappear. I have to click again on the
scan button up above, to the right of c:\musica to find the albums back.


Why is that?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread bpa


mrw wrote: 
> Adding -pt_BR.UTF-8 UTF-8- to the bottom of -/etc/locale.gen-, and then
> running -locale-gen- is all I needed to do on my debian box. Not
> something I do often...
I avoid loading up different locales.  I was using Ubuntu System
Settings and it looked to be doing something similar - however it failed
getting modules of pt_BR for firefox !
Maybe the command line approach will avoid downloading unnecessary
modules.

> I was rather hoping that the flac team might have tested operation under
> locales !

It's possible the flac utility is considered an example of how the flac
libraries can be used and so only simply tested but looking through
forum it has been used in different locales. The Flac libraries are the
key item and they are tested but I think locales aren't significant
(except perhaps for metadata and UTF8) .



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread mrw


bpa wrote: 
> I haven't been able to reproiduce the prpoblem. Trying to install PT_BR
> locale on my ubuntu has failed - not sure why.
> 

Adding -pt_BR.UTF-8 UTF-8- to the bottom of -/etc/locale.gen-, and then
running -locale-gen- is all I needed to do on my debian box. Not
something I do often...

bpa wrote: 
> 
> My own preference would be to use strtod_l and then make sure it only
> uses the "C" locale - using strtod with different untested locales may
> still have surprises.
> 

I was rather hoping that the flac team might have tested operation under
locales !

I'll give it further thought. My motivation was:

(a) I don't yet understand the nuances of setting/resetting locales
within the running program, and don't want to inadvertently confuse
matters should it be be used in a different way than we are envisaging.
But perhaps -strtod_l + C locale- won't do that.

(b) I like the idea of responding equally to '.' and ',' even though LMS
itself is only using '.'. Removes surprise for the average user.

It's worth noting that flac is already being very restrictive about what
it will accept - strictly '0'->'9', '.' & ',', and -strtod- had better
consume everything that it has been given.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread slartibartfast


What does the scanner log say? You can find it in the information tab of
settings at the bottom of the page.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread slartibartfast


carlmart wrote: 
> They are not. 
> 
> That's an automatic assignment that LMS did, which I didn't find
> important to correct. Should I? 
> 
> My video folders are on other HDDs, and I do not have a picture folder.
> 
> 
> Should I delete those on LMS?Just ignore the video and picture folders. For 
> some reason your music
folder is not being scanned. Are you absolutely sure that your music is
in the folder
C:\Musica ?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread carlmart


They are not. 

That's an automatic assignment that LMS did, which I didn't find
important to correct. Should I? 

My video folders are on other HDDs, and I do not have a picture folder.


Should I delete those on LMS?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread slartibartfast


carlmart wrote: 
> OK, albums are back!
> 
> I clicked here, then Apply, and the albums came back.

It seems odd to me that your music folder is in C:\ and your video and
picture folders are in C:\users\cem.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread bpa


carlmart wrote: 
> But I'm also getting to new problems, like losing my albums, that nobody
> is mentioning. 
I am helping you in between doing other things.

> I showed what got my albums back, but nobody said nothing about.
> 
> Also adding \playlists was not possible, and no comments about it. 
> 
> If we did things one at the time perhaps I can help more.

Earlier you said adding playlist helped - so now you are saying you
didn't add playlist  - confusing.

LMS cannot create directories - so when you add a playlist directoruy
(and it does not have to be called playlist just a different directory
to the Music one)  it must be already existing - usually created using
Explorer.

When you add directories in BAsic Settings - are you clicking "Apply" -
button at bottom right of screen.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread carlmart


bpa wrote: 
> Looks like did not follow my earlier instructions# exactly but doing
> very well if English is not 1st language.

English not being my 1st language is not the problem. I think that end
is quite alright, just not making myself understand, and that is not 1st
or 2nd language related. 

Of course I followed your instructions and all the instructions
everybody gave me before. 

But I'm also getting to new problems, like losing my albums, that nobody
is mentioning. 

I showed what got my albums back, but nobody said nothing about.

Also adding \playlists was not possible, and no comments about it. 

If we did things one at the time perhaps I can help more.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread bpa


mrw wrote: 
> I've drafted up a patch to flac, and have attached it for any one
> interested. I'm no programmer, so any comments welcome before I take it
> further.
> 
> It appears to be working successfully on my local arm box, but does need
> to be subjected to more rigorous testing, and cross platform testing.
> 
> Key point is that I have avoided messing with locales, etc., and simply
> used one additional function from the standard C  library, so
> I hope it would be portable to all platforms.

I haven't been able to reproiduce the prpoblem. Trying to install PT_BR
locale on my ubuntu has failed - not sure why.
Window flac.exe doesn't fail no matter what I do with Region etc.

My own preference would be to use strtod_l and then make sure it only
uses the "C" locale - using strtod with different untested locales may
still have surprises.

Windows Flac.exe was built with VS so I'm trying to setup it up so I can
rebuild flac with extra message to be sure it is behaving OK on Windows
- but MS makes setting up VS2019 for simple command line C applications
painful. I have an old system with VS2015 setup for socketwrapper which
is the fallback.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread slartibartfast


carlmart wrote: 
> Scanned again choosing "clear databas...". This is what I got. 
> 
> Also lost all my albums. Isn't there a conflict anywhere? What I'm
> losing?There is no indication in the scan results that your music folder is
being scanned. Is your Music folder 
C:\Musica or
C:\users\cem\Musica 
or similar?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread carlmart


bpa wrote: 
> LMS took 1 secs to scan 5496 tracks ?  Are you sure you choose "clear
> database & rescan everything" option ?

Scanned again choosing "clear databas...". This is what I got. 

Also lost all my albums. Isn't there a conflict anywhere? What I'm
losing?


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread bpa


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I think he clicked the rescan button next to the where the folders are
> defined.
> 
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Looks like did not follow my earlier instructions# exactly but doing
very well if English is not 1st language.  
> 
> 4. Select "*Clear library & rescan everything*" and click *rescan* at
> *right* hand side.
>



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread slartibartfast


bpa wrote: 
> LMS took 1 secs to scan 5496 tracks ?  Are you sure you choose "clear
> database & rescan everything" option ?Even with scan new and changed the 
> first line in the scan results should
be
"Discovering files/directories"
This is missing.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread bpa


carlmart wrote: 
> I've lost the My Music folder on LMS. I don't know why or how can I get
> it back.
> 
> Edit: Sorry, I meant I lost the Music folder, where I did have access to
> wav and cue files
IT is there called "Escolher per Directoria" (assuming icons are the
same as English)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread slartibartfast


bpa wrote: 
> LMS took 1 secs to scan 5496 tracks ?  Are you sure you choose "clear
> database & rescan everything" option ?I think he clicked the rescan button 
> next to the where the folders are
defined.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread bpa


carlmart wrote: 
> This is my scan result right now, with all albums visible and working. 
> 
> What can you say about it?

LMS took 1 secs to scan 5496 tracks ?  Are you sure you choose "clear
database & rescan everything" option ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread slartibartfast


carlmart wrote: 
> This is my scan result right now, with all albums visible and working. 
> 
> What can you say about it?

Where is the information about scanning music files? 

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread carlmart


bpa wrote: 
> What does your scan result look like compare to below ?
> 28024

This is my scan result right now, with all albums visible and working. 

What can you say about it?


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread carlmart


bpa wrote: 
> If you are using Microsoft Edge browser  - stop using it - it is buggy.
> 
> Use Firefox, Chrome, Chromium etc.

No, I only use Firefox. Hate all others!



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread bpa


If you are using Microsoft Edge browser  - stop using it - it is buggy.

Use Firefox, Chrome, Chromium etc.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Playing cue files with LMS

2019-08-21 Thread bpa


carlmart wrote: 
> I've lost the My Music folder on LMS. I don't know why or how can I get
> it back.
I don't understand how you can lose it ?  Show me ?



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