I am in contact with the radio station and it sounds like they may be
willing to 'fix' it so tunein on the squeezebox tunein works again. but
they need to know 'what kind of stream' is needed - they asked if an mp3
or https stream is needed.
MP3 would certainly be the most universal. Did you
Great work and thank you very much, @mherger, for your quick
support(once again!)! -Really appreciate it!
I'm not sure we're done yet. The developers documentation disappeared
today. And there obviously are changes in how existing API calls work.
Plus they don't use those API calls in their
Oh yes, the newly created playlist apperars in LMS My playlists
(together with My Favorites/playlists)
Could you please try again?
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Oh yes, the newly created playlist apperars in LMS My playlists
(together with My Favorites/playlists)
I really don't know what's going on... but it seems TIDAL has broken a
thing or two. The developers portal is inaccessible, too :-(
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Same problem here too. I dont see my custom built playlists (LMS8.3.1) I
see "My favorites/playlists" instead.(In "My playlists").
Can you try to modify one of your playlists and see whether that would help?
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After this change, my personally created playlists and folders were no
longer available via LMS, and still aren't. Maybe people can postpone
these changes for a while by not using Tidal through phone apps, browser
or PC apps. I don't know.
Hmm... this all seems to be in a bit of a flux... let's
Michael doesn't see edits - yet.
Hah! I'll find a way to continue to not see them!
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Seems like yet another change today, with Tidal's newly released
"profile" functionality...
Oh, was this a recent change? I got feedback from another user earlier
today. But as he was a new subscriber he didn't know when this happened.
Anyway: I just deployed a small change which hopefully
I just ran into the same issue, any news on this?
I'm sorry, didn't get around to working on this really.
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- I use two deezer acounts in mysqueezebox.com. Is it a problem ? When
scanner is running the number of playlists doesn't match any of my
accounts.
You could easily confirm this by removing one of them at a time?
- Name of playlists can create a problem ?
They are identified by some
Thanks. The link from the LMS did appear to be ok, it is just the Boom
that refuses to connect to mysqueezebox.
Ah, right. I see that last day it was connected was the 26th - the day
before you posted here.
I am not sure what I can alter in the boom's software/settings to get it
to connect.
[22-09-29 21:41:17.1516]
Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_done (111) Got list
of SN players: (
That means that your LMS connected to MySB successfully and got a bunch
of information about players, apps, etc. back.
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But they don't appear in the "My playlists" Menu where they used to be
with names as "Deezer : XXX".
But other Deezer content would show up in your My Music menu?
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Completed Slim::Plugin::Deezer::Importer Scan in 92.219 seconds.
90s look as if the import had worked. Are the playlists still missing?
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Can I safely deactivate its plugin on my server, and if so, will I lose
any functionality?
If you don't use any of the music services that are provided through
MySB, then you don't really need it.
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But something as changed :
- some days ago my deezer playlists where also in "My Music". All of
them where referenced as "Deezer : X".
This was very useful for me because it allowed me to use these playlists
in automation in Jeedom.
Since some days, and may be something I did (but what ?) the
It was working until the password change notification (from LastFM) -
last scrobble from MySB was July 2022.
I use Deezer via MySB.com and this scrobbling stopped then..
Oh, right. This might be the last valid use case for the Last.fm
scrobbler in a MySB only setup... Please PM me and we can
I have just updated to Logitech Media Sever Version: 8.2.1 - 1649774087
within my Synology Docker container and everything works,
except my Deezer playlists. Everytime when I try to start my playlists I
get the message: An error has ocurred, the other favorites like artists
or albums works.
Unfortunate for me, his is not the case for me, is Michael still an
option for a user reset?:confused:
Definitely :-)
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Not that I'd know of. Are you sure it's not the URL which is rejected,
eg. because it's https?
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Is there a setting to show "New Releases" Menu in Web interface like
Qobuz (Start Page > Qobuz > New Releases)?
No, there isn't yet. I quickly checked the Deezer API, and it should be
possible. But I don't know which list you'd want: there's the overall
releases, per genre releases, and
What OS are you using? What IO::Socket::SSL (see Settings/Information)?
IO::Socket::SSL: 2.071
That should be fine. Can you access any online resource from that Pi?
Anything in server.log?
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Ok thanks so this is the main one
https://playerservices.streamtheworld.com/api/livestream-redirect/WWSMFMAAC.aac
Yeah, unfortunately mysb.com can't stream from https sources. Sometimes
you can remove the s from https, but that's not future proof...
Would the following work?
My wife has a UE Smart Radio and loves listening to certain US radio
stations which I've got running through LMS using the customer URL
option. I've tried adding this into mysqueezebox but frustratingly it
doesn't recognise the links so I'm not sure what options I have?
Can you give an example
BUT...with the radio(s) a foot away, I cannot get a wireless connection
working (I've been running 3 radios on WIFI), either by the pushbutton
protocol OR entering in the router password.
Are you saying that none of the Radios would connect? Maybe the new
router's wifi is only using newer
I already have a Tidal account logged in on my account at
mysqueezebox.com,
and this is working great on my 3 devices connected to it, without the
use of a local LMS - so I don't understand what you mean sorry?
Oh?... I'm sorry for my failing memory :-). I thought they moved to
streaming over
I do not run LMS locally.
Am I able to use this feature via mysqueezebox.com?
I can't seem to find a setting anywhere to activate it :-(
No, you need LMS in order to use TIDAL with your Squeezebox.
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Hello, perhaps a little off-topic ...
Pretty much, yes. Why not start a new thread?...
For some reason, the content of my Tidal playlists is no longer updated,
or only very sporadically. For example, today I completely emptied one
list and added ten new songs. But they don't appear in the
working now. Will you be restoring the logging of the replaygain value
used?
No, that logging was in code which I removed again. I'd expect some
player.* logging to display gain information. But I don't know :-).
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.Is it just me or are we back in the situation where replaygain is always
applied regardless of the global setting?
If you're talking about TIDAL only and are not running the very latest
build, then yes. That's what I've been trying to explain. You'll need
the latest build from about half an
Ok, thanks! I probably made a mistake somewhere ...
Just to clarify again (for me): the different levels can't be caused by
the value for internet streams being set to e.g. -7?
your observation was correct. I guess the difference between what
slartibartfast saw and what you see is caused by
https://tidal.com/browse/track/4489969
https://tidal.com/browse/track/1304594
Thanks, that was of great help! It's all a little more complicated than
I thought (though the changes required aren't). New builds are in the
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Not really. It works but the server log does not report the fact that
replaygain is being applied even when it is enabled. Before the change
the server log always reported that replaygain was used.
I'm only interested in the audible effect of the change. The logging is
something I can add or
You didn't see my comment. I did that (well debug) and replaygain is
mentioned in the log even when it should be disabled.
I'm sorry, yes, didn't see your comment before I posted.
Anybody willing and able to edit a source file?
In Slim/Plugin/WiMP/ProtocolHandler.pm, around line 449 there's a
The following observation: The Tidal files are definitely played with
replaygain - however, this behaviour does not change when I switch off
the normalisation for the respective player - the volume simply remains
the same, i.e. equally quiet ... am I making a mistake in thinking?
Could you
So if I understand this correctly, album gain normalization is now used
permanently, but I can't set it anywhere, can I?
Normalization can be enabled/disabled globally in LMS. That would still
be taken into account. But you can't disable/enable it for TIDAL only.
Now if Logitech could be encouraged to do a production run of
PolyVection type dongles the numbers would change dramatically. How hard
can that be for a large corporation like Logitech?
Probably harder than for a smaller company... processes are slow!
For a guess, is it MySB accounts or devices connected to MySB? If
devices, then is it only Logitech hardware or does it include all the
hardware (pis, etc) running squeezelite?
You better don't ask. It might hurt the numbers!
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Devices or users?
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checking for
updates, or when interacting with MySB based music services (Deezer,
Pandora, TIDAL). But trying to map those requests to user identities and
players is no precise science...
redoubtable Michael Herger might be able to say how many active accounts
/ devices there regularly
Just tried and it works well
Cool! Thaks for the confirmation!
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Roon seems to have access to Tidal volume normalisation through the API.
https://community.roonlabs.com/t/tidal-upgrade-their-loudness-normalization-and-enable-it-by-default/33555
Thanks for that link. I've tried to implement this. Please give it a try.
If you've followed the links you'll have
I'd love to know what data is sent, perhaps I'm over-cautious but
There's the optional prefs sync. Some of the data like player names
could be considered sensitive data ("Michael's Bedroom Radio"). But
syncing is optional.
Next up: the update check. In addition to the necessary data to
Does the MySqueezebox/LMS app support using multiple accounts tied to
the same 'Tidal Family HiFi subscription'
Yes, it does.
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My impression (meaning this is pure speculation, not knowledge) is that
Michael's hands are tied where dealing with contractual partners is
concerned. He can respond if they contact him, but he cannot initiate
contact with them. In any case, I suspect he can't alter an existing
app, even if the
Having an official Tidal app is probably worse than having a plugin like
Spotty. Michael seems to be ignoring my question about the possibility
of using replaygain with Tidal [emoji2]
I'm not. But I'm on vacation :-)
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I understand the desire to keep people letting logitech know that we
still exist, but I currently have everything in a nice offline-first
manner.
But this forum might go away once Logitech doesn't see any interest any
more. Or the build systems. Or the repository. Sure, this all can be
Do I need to set up something through mysqueezebox.com?
Yes, you have to configure your Deezer account there.
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my old father can not login to his mysqueezebox.com account.
He can access www.mysqueezebox.com, but can't sign in? Any error message?
We also don't get any e-mails when we try to reset the password from the
reset password form at the mysqueezebox site.
Please feel free to PM me his email
When using Spotty and playing a song on the iPhone Spotify app, my
Squeezebox Touch is listed as a listening option. If I select it, the
music plays through the SBT just fine.
When using the iPhone Tidal (or Deezer) app, no such option appears to
play the music on the SBT. Should the SBT be
Turn off the radio (not hard off, just momentary push) and come back
next day and both radios have the same problem!
Would your router shut down at night? Or get a new IP address? Would the
Radio connect again if you restarted the router?
I don't use LMS.
Any idea what's wrong? Can I login
Apps still do not Show up in LMS.
Yeah, no change there... might very well be some caching issue. Maybe
I'll find some time later today to further investigate. Other than that:
keep trying, please. IIRC the cache should expire after 1h. And make
sure you connect a player to that LMS.
Yes, I am based in the U.S. - Florida for the winter.
Wow... ok... that was unexpected. Looks as if one of our read-only
database hosts which serve these queries has stopped updating almost a
month ago... I've tried to re-configure the system to always use the
main server. Could you please
I don't understand what you're trying to tell me.
It still does not work for me.
What that log shows is that my LMS is signing in using your credentials.
And then it receives the necessary information about TuneIn (aka.
radiotime) and TIDAL (aka. WiMP). Which means that your account does
So, when does LMS add a Player? Can I add it after the fact?
I'm not 100% sure, to be honest. But I could imagine you make sure your
LMS has a player connected _before_ you configure its MySB account.
If that's too late already, then remove the MySB connection, and
re-authenticate.
This
1.) I have no idea how to Add a Player in MySB.com - How do I add one ?
LMS would do that. But in the initial log file I saw that the OP's
installation failed to reach the internet. Therefore the registration
failed, too.
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I sent it again ..
Ok, I have an idea what might be causing some of what you're experiencing.
The initial login and subsequent player information sync between LMS and
MySB are relatively "expensive" calls. Lots of database lookup, large
resultsets etc. Part of the response is
I sent the File ...
I haven't received anything. Can you please try again?
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Well, go ahead and create a new MySB.com account and see if you can get
it to work I've created a couple in the lasts few days, and they
both fail. So, old ones may work, but the new ones don't for me.
Please enable logging for network.squeezenetwork, change to the failing
identity again,
How would it be possible for 1 of my MySB.com Accounts to work fine, But
a new one that I created a couple days ago (As a test) will not show any
Apps in LMS. Even Tunein Radio.
Same OS, Same Network... the only thing that is different is the
MySB.com Account.
Don't know. From the log files
Michael - are you thinking it is an LMS issue, a Tidal issue of a MySB
issue?
I believe it's a problem somewhere between your OS and LMS. LMS fails to
connect to mysb. This is either a networking issue, or a problem with
the SSL support (which looks good - and is successfully used by
Does anyone know how I can use Deezer Hifi with mysqueezebox.com
server?
I believe Deezer HiFi is using https - which doesn't work on mysb
directly. You'll have to run LMS 8.2+.
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Something unusual. A friend has also sues LMS and he can add Tidal to
That friend isn't Cut-Throat over in
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115748?
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I am in the US. I can access mysb on my browser and i did restart LMS.
What OS is LMS running on? Is it all up to date? What IO::Socket::SSL is
reported in LMS/Settings/Information?
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Using Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0. Tidal app does not show up
in the home page but Tidal does work in the "My Music", "Search". Is
there a way to get the Tidal app to show in the home page under app?
Qobuz works great and shows up. I know Qobuz is standalone in the
plugins while Tidal
Yes, the completely blank issue only happens when adding through URL,
when adding from the LMS UI, at least the track info of all tracks are
shown, the album arts are still missing though.
Could you please enable debug logging for plugin.deezer, try the same
again, then send me your
When adding dezzer albums or playlists through CLI, the the playlist on
LMS UI (including stardard webUI and "material skin") can only display
the album art and track info for the first track, other tracks only have
the deezer icon. But when the next track is played, the album art and
track info
Can you do the same patch on the US system or send me the ip of the EU
system, I can manually add to my dns.
Rolling out as I type... please give it a few minutes.
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Yes, I do have the Premium subscription and can play flac when using the
LMS UI.
Here are a couple of real deezer album or playlist uri examples:
deezer://album:284565752
deezer://playlist:6223140704
Would you know whether you are hitting the EU or US datacenter of mysb?
What IP address would
I am able to add deezer tracks, albums and playlists to LMS through CLI
following the above deezer URI scheme. However, I am having trouble to
play albums and playlists in lossless mode (flac), LMS always play them
as MP3s when they are added through CLI. When the albums or playlists
are added in
Thanks for the info. Based on your comments, can i assume that the
newest version of macOS dont have this same issue regarding integration
of Tidal into the LMS library?
Yes, with the latest macOS version it should just work.
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Hello everyone. I have a premium Tidal account, but I'm not able to get
the Tidal app to load on the LMS home page (and not able to get any of
my Tidal favorites to integrate into my library) on my 2014 Macbook Air
running High Sierra. I know I had this working when I was running LMS on
my iMac
Why doesnt Logitech have enough pull to implement MQA support?
Because they decided to stop Squeezebox development many, many years ago...
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need the Tidal plugin to select the MQA version instead of the generic
flac. That doesn't need Tidal Connect. Who do I contact about getting
the LMS feature "corrected" to grab the correct file? There are so many
I guess that would be me. The problem is: the "official" TIDAL
implementation
I have a memory of a discussion here which thought it takes X days /
hours for the MySB Apps to populate to the LMS-connected players - maybe
I just didn't wait long enough?
Yes, I wanted to mention this. There's no pushing from MySB to LMS. LMS
has to ask MySB for changes. And under certain
server. The more people.that use mysqueezebox also makes it less likely
to be discontinued by Logitech. As far as privacy goes mysqueezebox is
And please note that this important piece of information is not only
about shutting down mysb. But Logitech is paying for this forum, too. As
well as
Michael, I am very sorry I didn't get back to you previously. Truth is,
I read your post and followed several linked posts, all of which were
dealing deeply with stuff I have absolutely no familiarity with, and I
just threw my hands up and decided that if I needed Spotify in the
practice room or
Looks like his issues go back to this post in May
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=1023025
Oh, thanks. That's interesting. Because if he had cared to get back to
me back then, he might be enjoying music now, instead of bothering us
with the same issue again...
pfcs - you got way too many postings all over the place... I'm only
going to respond in this one.
You mentioned using Spotty. As this is not available without running LMS
anyway you don't need to worry about MySB. Whether your devices show up
there or not doesn't matter at all. So... can you
You are probably right so I took the plunge last night and thanks to
this post
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115220-Synology-Docker-LMS-Step-by-Step,
I was able to get it set up and functioning flawlessly. No one is more
surprised about this than me as discussions of containers,
I plan on cancelling Tidal once Spotify goes lossless, which is supposed
to be by the end of the year.
Wonder how that is going :confused:
Did they say which year? :-D
FWIW: if you plan to use Spotty for Spotify lossless, I wouldn't hold my
breath. I have no clue if, and if so, when this
Thanks for the reply. Am I correct in thinking that I now need to do the
update as a manual install on my Synology 218+ since LMS is no longer
If you're running LMS on Synology, I'd suggest you either use Docker
(which should be available in the plus models) or a Raspberry Pi to run
LMS.
Please update LMS to the latest version, and check IO::Socket::SSL
version in Settings/Information. Most likely it's outdated and would no
longer allow connecting to MySB securely.
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One part of the response was reminding that this was US only for now
anyway. Who knows? Maybe the situation changes once it's available globally.
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The answer to that is "almost" but maybe this can be addressed?
Unfortunately we're not allowed to stream to users of the free plan.
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My bet is your computer is running an outdated operating system:
Starting Logitech Media Server (v8.0.1, 1606118512, Mon Nov 23 09:50:44
CET 2020) perl 5.020002 - arm-linux-gnueabihf-thread-multi-64int
Perl 5.20 is really old. Check Settings/Information: if IO::Socket::SSL
isn't at 2.68 or
Perhaps the app/plugin could be modified to allow requesting of the
lower bitrate content?
I'll have to figure out whether we're allowed to stream the free tier...
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Hopefully mherger will see this thread as he is, I think, the only
person with forum admin rights and also the ability to deregister
devices.
The situation should be sorted out by now.
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Are username/passwords protected RSS feeds possible in the squeezebox
ecosystem?
If so, what authentication methods are supported? Basic auth? OAuth?
Forms and cookie based authentication? (i.e. webapp style)
Basic auth would be the simplest - that's why it's not popular :-). It's
basically
My hardware: MacBook Pro running LMS 8.2.0: Rasberry Pi�s; all hardwired
from/through router.
What macOS? You might need to update IO::Socket::SSL if you were running
an older macOS. See
If the issue is the player, then could the problem be resolved in a
community firmware update?
I don't have the experience to confirm or deny this. But you'll
certainly be in a better situation getting a Pi to run LMS on, than to
wait for a firmware update to fix this.
I was just looking for a solution about that, there are a lot web radio
streams with "https://; url, for exemple from radioking platform.
Isn't there a work around ? and btw why is there this limitation ? is it
technical ?
The workaround, as mentioned, is using LMS. And yes, it's a technical
Yep - looks like one of the load-balancers needs a kick up the
certificate again.
You're right! Thanks for the heads up: one of the EU load balancers
hadn't picked up the updated certificate. I was only checking the US, as
Pandora is not supposed to be available in EU anyway...
Since
The problem only occurs when I want to insert links like " https:// " I
should know better :o
Ok, that makes sense: you can't stream https resources on mysb.
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And it's working now. Good job!
Thanks for the feedback, good to know.
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Ok, I think I've found something. We had a hardware failure last night.
And that seems to be causing more trouble than just broken database
replication... I'm looking into it.
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As of today both my Duet Controller and Squeezer app can't connect to my
favorits on mysqueezebox.com
when the player is connected to MSB and not LMS. It's only the favorits
that don't connect, everything else works.
Hmm... you're not the first to report this or similar behaviour today.
Did
On https://mysqueezebox.com/settings/favorites I can not create more
than 4 favorites. When trying to create a new one, nothing happens. Is
it true that there is no room for more than 4 favorites?
Would it work if you used https://www.mysqueezebox.com/settings/favorites?
Dang, then it's just a problem on my end!
Wonder what that could be.
Are you using mysqueezebox.com rather than www.mysqueezebox.com?
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Got 'em back - brilliant! The really odd thing with this, is I
screenshotted all my LMS 7.9 settings before setting 8.1 Docker up, and
the Radio plug isn't an active plugin in 7.9, and isn't listed as an
inactive one either:
I believe in 7.9 you were not able to disable the Radio plugin. This
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