Re: [Standards] MUC Mention Notifications

2020-12-30 Thread Dave Cridland
On Wed, 30 Dec 2020, 16:33 JC Brand, wrote: > > > On 18.12.20 19:10, Dave Cridland wrote: > > On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 at 17:01, JC Brand > > wrote: > > > > Hi all > > > > I've submitted a PR for a new protoXEP: MUC Mention Notifictions > > > >

Re: [Standards] MUC Mention Notifications

2020-12-30 Thread Andrzej Wojcik
> Wiadomość napisana przez JC Brand w dniu 30.12.2020, o > godz. 17:28: > >> In the proposed protoXEP element contains real bare JID of the >> user affiliated with the room, which is available, if I'm correct, only in >> non-anonymous rooms. In semi-anonymous it may not be available. Due

Re: [Standards] MUC Mention Notifications

2020-12-30 Thread JC Brand
On 25.12.20 13:38, Philipp Hörist wrote: Hi, Ok i think i get it, its a warmed up XEP. Not a very successful XEP btw. Anyway back to the original use case for sending messages to people not joined the MUC i think Marvins approach is easier. But it does not replace the reference

Re: [Standards] MUC Mention Notifications

2020-12-30 Thread JC Brand
On 25.12.20 12:46, Marvin W wrote: On 24.12.20 16:25, Matthew Wild wrote: would be largely duplicating the semantics of XEP-0372 mentions. XEP-0372 (in its current version 0.4.0) does not specify any semantics for mentions at all and (according to its introduction) only "provides a

Re: [Standards] MUC Mention Notifications

2020-12-30 Thread JC Brand
On 23.12.20 16:16, Marvin W wrote: Hi there, I actually was working on something with partially overlapping goals, that is a) being notified for relevant groupchat messages via push notifications. This is mostly relevant for iOS push notifications (at least as far as I understood during last

Re: [Standards] MUC Mention Notifications

2020-12-30 Thread JC Brand
On 19.12.20 16:41, Andrzej Wojcik wrote: To enable this feature, I've opted for a configuration setting in the MUC. Apparently Tigase already has a similar feature to this protoXEP and relies on letting the user opt-in when registering a nickname with the MUC. Maybe someone from Tigase

Re: [Standards] MUC Mention Notifications

2020-12-30 Thread JC Brand
On 18.12.20 19:10, Dave Cridland wrote: On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 at 17:01, JC Brand > wrote: Hi all I've submitted a PR for a new protoXEP: MUC Mention Notifictions https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1022 Thanks, this looks like a

Re: [Standards] MUC Mention Notifications

2020-12-25 Thread Philipp Hörist
Hi, Ok i think i get it, its a warmed up XEP. Not a very successful XEP btw. Anyway back to the original use case for sending messages to people not joined the MUC i think Marvins approach is easier. But it does not replace the reference mention, because we still need that to mark up the text

Re: [Standards] MUC Mention Notifications

2020-12-25 Thread Marvin W
Hi, On 23.12.20 17:47, Philipp Hörist wrote: > and when would a client add this notify tag? Should the client let > the user decide? (I dont like that) Is there any reason why i would > not add to every message? I see no downside for the sender Client should only add the tag on user request

Re: [Standards] MUC Mention Notifications

2020-12-24 Thread Matthew Wild
On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 at 16:48, Philipp Hörist wrote: > Hi > > and when would a client add this notify tag? Should the client let the > user decide? (I dont like that) > Is there any reason why i would not add to every message? I see > no downside for the sender > I agree that having it in

Re: [Standards] MUC Mention Notifications

2020-12-23 Thread Philipp Hörist
Hi and when would a client add this notify tag? Should the client let the user decide? (I dont like that) Is there any reason why i would not add to every message? I see no downside for the sender best wishes Philipp Am Mi., 23. Dez. 2020 um 16:29 Uhr schrieb Kevin Smith <

Re: [Standards] MUC Mention Notifications

2020-12-23 Thread Kevin Smith
On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:16, Marvin W wrote: > > Hi there, > > I actually was working on something with partially overlapping goals, > that is > a) being notified for relevant groupchat messages via push > notifications. This is mostly relevant for iOS push notifications (at > least as far as I

Re: [Standards] MUC Mention Notifications

2020-12-23 Thread Marvin W
Hi there, I actually was working on something with partially overlapping goals, that is a) being notified for relevant groupchat messages via push notifications. This is mostly relevant for iOS push notifications (at least as far as I understood during last summit). b) signal to recipient that a

Re: [Standards] MUC Mention Notifications

2020-12-19 Thread Andrzej Wojcik
Hi all, > To enable this feature, I've opted for a configuration setting in the MUC. > > Apparently Tigase already has a similar feature to this protoXEP and relies > on letting the user opt-in when registering a nickname with the MUC. > > Maybe someone from Tigase can comment on the

Re: [Standards] MUC Mention Notifications

2020-12-18 Thread Dave Cridland
On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 at 17:01, JC Brand wrote: > Hi all > > I've submitted a PR for a new protoXEP: MUC Mention Notifictions > > https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1022 Thanks, this looks like a solid start and I will be voting to accept it. Comments: 1) I think it would benefit from an example

[Standards] MUC Mention Notifications

2020-12-18 Thread JC Brand
Hi all I've submitted a PR for a new protoXEP: MUC Mention Notifictions https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1022 The goal is to document how someone who's affiliated, but not currently present in a MUC might receive notifications when he/she is mentioned inside that MUC. For the concept of