Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Client Information

2008-01-24 Thread Magnus Henoch
Maciek Niedzielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also for implementation notes: if we continue reading client name from identity/, there should be probably a reminder that there may be multiple identity/ elements, but we are only interested in client/pc here (and this may be not always the first

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Client Information

2008-01-24 Thread Maciek Niedzielski
On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 11:45:04AM +0100, Magnus Henoch wrote: Maciek Niedzielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also for implementation notes: if we continue reading client name from identity/, there should be probably a reminder that there may be multiple identity/ elements, but we are only

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Client Information

2008-01-23 Thread Tomasz Sterna
On Wt, 2008-01-22 at 15:43 -0700, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: A question: should this clientinfo extension include the software name, or do we assume that is provided properly in the service discovery identity? If the latter, I'll make that clear in the extension spec. (It seems preferable to

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Client Information

2008-01-23 Thread Tomasz Sterna
On Pn, 2008-01-21 at 21:56 -0600, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: Abstract: This document specifies an XMPP protocol extension for including detailed data about an XMPP client in service discovery responses. URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/clientinfo.html I've implemented it in

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Client Information

2008-01-23 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Tomasz Sterna wrote: On Pn, 2008-01-21 at 21:56 -0600, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: Abstract: This document specifies an XMPP protocol extension for including detailed data about an XMPP client in service discovery responses. URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/clientinfo.html I've

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Client Information

2008-01-22 Thread Richard Dobson
Kevin Smith wrote: On Jan 22, 2008 6:02 AM, Tobias Markmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/clientinfo.html What are the enhancements of this XEP compared to XEP-0092? Why should one implement this XEP and not XEP-0092? Since both XEPs seem to do

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Client Information

2008-01-22 Thread Kevin Smith
On Jan 22, 2008 6:02 AM, Tobias Markmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/clientinfo.html What are the enhancements of this XEP compared to XEP-0092? Why should one implement this XEP and not XEP-0092? Since both XEPs seem to do the same job I think there is

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Client Information

2008-01-22 Thread Richard Dobson
Well, then the XEP should say something about that or even better that this protocol should be used instead of XEP-0092 since it's generally bad to have two standards with the same or nearly the same purpose. In the end the target of a standardization organization is to have just one protocol

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Client Information

2008-01-22 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Tobias Markmann wrote: On Jan 22, 2008 10:14 AM, Richard Dobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Smith wrote: On Jan 22, 2008 6:02 AM, Tobias Markmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/clientinfo.html What are the enhancements of this XEP compared to

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Client Information

2008-01-22 Thread Tobias Markmann
On Jan 22, 2008 5:26 PM, Richard Dobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, then the XEP should say something about that or even better that this protocol should be used instead of XEP-0092 since it's generally bad to have two standards with the same or nearly the same purpose. In the end the

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Client Information

2008-01-22 Thread Tobias Markmann
On Jan 22, 2008 11:01 PM, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Tobias Markmann wrote: On Jan 22, 2008 10:14 AM, Richard Dobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Smith wrote: On Jan 22, 2008 6:02 AM, Tobias Markmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: URL:

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Client Information

2008-01-22 Thread Maciek Niedzielski
Peter Saint-Andre wrote: A question: should this clientinfo extension include the software name, or do we assume that is provided properly in the service discovery identity? If the latter, I'll make that clear in the extension spec. (It seems preferable to have the same information in only one

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Client Information

2008-01-22 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Maciek Niedzielski wrote: Peter Saint-Andre wrote: A question: should this clientinfo extension include the software name, or do we assume that is provided properly in the service discovery identity? If the latter, I'll make that clear in the extension spec. (It seems preferable to have the

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Client Information

2008-01-22 Thread Maciek Niedzielski
Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Maciek Niedzielski wrote: BTW I think it is unclear (at least for some people) what should be given as a 'name' in identity category='client' type='pc'/. Probably because XEP-0030 doesn't really say. :) I don't remember the details, but some time ago people

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Client Information

2008-01-22 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Maciek Niedzielski wrote: Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Maciek Niedzielski wrote: BTW I think it is unclear (at least for some people) what should be given as a 'name' in identity category='client' type='pc'/. Probably because XEP-0030 doesn't really say. :) I don't remember the details, but

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Client Information

2008-01-22 Thread Joe Hildebrand
On Jan 22, 2008, at 4:06 PM, Maciek Niedzielski wrote: Also for implementation notes: if we continue reading client name from identity/, there should be probably a reminder that there may be multiple identity/ elements, but we are only interested in client/pc here (and this may be not

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Client Information

2008-01-21 Thread Tobias Markmann
On Jan 22, 2008 4:56 AM, XMPP Extensions Editor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: Client Information Abstract: This document specifies an XMPP protocol extension for including detailed data about an XMPP client in service