Re: [Standards] XEP-0424: Message Retraction - Remove Fastening

2023-02-21 Thread Marvin W
I think we came up with the common understanding that to reference a previous message in a conversation, we use - the origin-id or message id in direct chats - the MUC service's stanza-id in MUCs + some kind of method (e.g. presence tracking, occupant-id) to have certainty that the sender is the

Re: [Standards] XEP-0424: Message Retraction - Remove Fastening

2023-02-20 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 20/02/2023 11.05, JC Brand wrote: On 20.02.23 10:32, Florian Schmaus wrote: On 13/02/2023 16.57, Daniel Gultsch wrote: I’m currently looking at implementing 'Message Retraction' and I think it should get rid of Fastening. I mentioned it during Summit and while it wasn’t discussed much

Re: [Standards] XEP-0424: Message Retraction - Remove Fastening

2023-02-20 Thread JC Brand
On 20.02.23 10:32, Florian Schmaus wrote: On 13/02/2023 16.57, Daniel Gultsch wrote: I’m currently looking at implementing 'Message Retraction' and I think it should get rid of Fastening. I mentioned it during Summit and while it wasn’t discussed much further my comment also didn’t get much

Re: [Standards] XEP-0424: Message Retraction - Remove Fastening

2023-02-20 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 13/02/2023 16.57, Daniel Gultsch wrote: I’m currently looking at implementing 'Message Retraction' and I think it should get rid of Fastening. I mentioned it during Summit and while it wasn’t discussed much further my comment also didn’t get much protest: I think Fastening is dead. A

Re: [Standards] XEP-0424: Message Retraction - Remove Fastening

2023-02-19 Thread JC Brand
Hi Daniel Thanks for bringing this up again. This was also the feedback when the XEP was reviewed by council about 2 (!) years ago. As one of the XEP authors, I've gone ahead and made a PR with the change. https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1270 The next XEP, 0425 'Message Moderation' is

Re: [Standards] XEP-0424: Message Retraction - Remove Fastening

2023-02-14 Thread Nicolas Cedilnik
Hi Daniel, If fastening is dead indeed, but retraction is not, I think it's reasonable to remove references to fastening in retraction. Looks good to me. -- Nicolas ___ Standards mailing list Info:

[Standards] XEP-0424: Message Retraction - Remove Fastening

2023-02-13 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Hi, I’m currently looking at implementing 'Message Retraction' and I think it should get rid of Fastening. I mentioned it during Summit and while it wasn’t discussed much further my comment also didn’t get much protest: I think Fastening is dead. A general purpose approach doesn’t seem to work