Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0066: Out of Band Data

2020-03-10 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Am Di., 25. Feb. 2020 um 15:54 Uhr schrieb Jonas Schäfer : > > The XEP Editor would like to Call for Experience with XEP-0066 before > presenting it to the Council for advancing it to Final status. > > > During the Call for Experience, please answer the following questions: > > 1. What software

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0066: Out of Band Data

2020-02-25 Thread Christian Schudt
Hi, see my answers below. > Am 25.02.2020 um 16:52 schrieb Jonas Schäfer (XSF Editor) > : > > The XEP Editor would like to Call for Experience with XEP-0066 before > presenting it to the Council for advancing it to Final status. > > > During the Call for Experience, please answer the

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0066: Out of Band Data

2018-03-22 Thread Kozlov Konstantin
Hello! 23.03.2018, 02:28, "Emmanuel Gil Peyrot" :Hi,On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 11:57:52AM +0300, Kozlov Konstantin wrote:I don't see any XEP which describes of full procedure of file transferusing OOB.But [1]XEP-0095: Stream Initiation has [2]mention of using OOB

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0066: Out of Band Data

2018-03-22 Thread Emmanuel Gil Peyrot
Hi, On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 11:57:52AM +0300, Kozlov Konstantin wrote: >Hello! > [snip] >I don't see any XEP which describes of full procedure of file transfer >using OOB. >But [1]XEP-0095: Stream Initiation has [2]mention of using OOB as stream >method. >I guess, this

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0066: Out of Band Data

2018-03-22 Thread Kozlov Konstantin
Hello! 21.03.2018, 14:32, "Christian Schudt" :Maybe you are right. It was just a guess, because someone asked for the purpose of 0066.Because the uploaded file is persistent (at least for some time), I concluded that the purpose is for offline file transfer.Maybe the

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0066: Out of Band Data

2018-03-21 Thread Christian Schudt
  >> TL;DR: The purpose is/was to transfer files in case the receiver is offline. > Given the primary mechanism in -66 is iq-based, I don’t think this is true, > or I misunderstood your point. Maybe you are right. It was just a guess, because someone asked for the purpose of 0066. Because

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0066: Out of Band Data

2018-03-21 Thread Kevin Smith
On 8 Mar 2018, at 09:25, Christian Schudt wrote: > TL;DR: The purpose is/was to transfer files in case the receiver is offline. Given the primary mechanism in -66 is iq-based, I don’t think this is true, or I misunderstood your point. /K

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0066: Out of Band Data

2018-03-21 Thread Kevin Smith
On 7 Mar 2018, at 19:17, Jonas Wielicki (XSF Editor) wrote: > > The XEP Editor would like to Call for Experience with XEP-0066 before > presenting it to the Council for advancing it to Final status. > > > During the Call for Experience, please answer the following

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0066: Out of Band Data

2018-03-15 Thread Jonas Wielicki
On Mittwoch, 7. März 2018 20:17:29 CET Jonas Wielicki wrote: > 1. What software has XEP-0066 implemented? We have support for the flow in JabberCat (GPLv3), like in gajim and Conversations as already mentioned elsewhere in this thread. We do not implement the IQ workflow, nor do we intend to

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0066: Out of Band Data

2018-03-08 Thread Christian Schudt
> However I'm not really sure what the intended purpose of this XEP is > and if we still have a use case for that purpose. I understood the purpose as follows: a) You upload some file to a server (nowadays you could also use XEP-363). b) You send a message to a contact with XEP-0066. c) Contact

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0066: Out of Band Data

2018-03-07 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Same what Philipp said. Most (not all) clients I know implement a small subset of the XEP to basically annotate that the URL that is already in the body of the message should be treated as an 'attachment' or a file download instead of a regular text URL. This feels like an odd hack and not the

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0066: Out of Band Data

2018-03-07 Thread Kozlov Konstantin
Hello! 07.03.2018, 22:18, "Jonas Wielicki (XSF Editor)" :The XEP Editor would like to Call for Experience with XEP-0066 beforepresenting it to the Council for advancing it to Final status.During the Call for Experience, please answer the following questions:1. What software

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0066: Out of Band Data

2018-03-07 Thread Philipp Hörist
1. What software has XEP-0066 implemented? Gajim, only 3. communicating a uri via message 2. Have developers experienced any problems with the protocol as defined in XEP-0066? Not with 3., but cant comment on the other XEP Parts 3. Is the text of XEP-0066 clear and unambiguous? Are