Re: [Standards] XEP-0371: Jingle ICE Transport Method - Question on ICE Restart detection

2021-11-17 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
> - the initiator consider the second message a response and maps it to an > answer. > - the responder will also consider it a response and map it to an answer. > Hi Philipp, Why would it be considered as a response if there were no first? PS when are you going to return to xsf@ chat? :-)

Re: [Standards] XEP-0371: Jingle ICE Transport Method - Question on ICE Restart detection

2021-11-16 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
Hi Daniel, If you didn't receive iq type=result yet for your offer then it looks like a remote offer. maybe even something to consider for . Best Regards, Sergey вт, 16 нояб. 2021 г. в 22:33, Daniel Gultsch : > Hi, > > I’m trying to implement ICE Restarts with XEP-0371. The XEP states > that

Re: [Standards] XEP-0372 references pointing to different elements in same stanza

2021-09-01 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
I mean to use both *anchor* and *xml:lang* attributes to not write a complicated element query parser if one is not provided by the used libs. Best Regards, Sergey ср, 1 сент. 2021 г. в 11:10, JC Brand : > > > On 01.09.21 10:06, Sergey Ilinykh wrote: > &g

Re: [Standards] XEP-0372 references pointing to different elements in same stanza

2021-09-01 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
why not just ``` ``` ? Best Regards, Sergey ср, 1 сент. 2021 г. в 10:59, JC Brand : > Hi Jonas > > On 31.08.21 17:23, Jonas Schäfer wrote: > > Hi JC, > > This has somehow slipped past me. > > > Thanks for taking the time to respond. > > On Freitag, 13. August 2021 14:00:06 CEST JC Brand

Re: [Standards] Thoughts on XEP-0385 Stateless Inline Media Sharing

2021-07-02 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
What about a slightly different scenario? Romeo sees a funny picture on funnypics.com, copies it to a messenger's input field. The messenger prefetches the whole picture, generates a thumbnail (at least it's impossible to have a thumbnail without fetching everything), computes hashes and then

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0050: Ad-Hoc Commands

2020-05-26 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
> The XEP Editor would like to Call for Experience with XEP-0050 before > presenting it to the Council for advancing it to Final status. > > > During the Call for Experience, please answer the following questions: > > 1. What software has XEP-0050 implemented? Please note that the > protocol must

Re: [Standards] Bookmarks and autojoin issues

2020-05-23 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
Another perspective for profiles is work/life balance. Work/life MUCs or anything else fitting this concept. Particularly in Psi I've already added some options allowing to ignore some autojoining mucs for example at work or local-only (not stored on a server) bookmarks. Best Regards, Sergey

Re: [Standards] XEP-0167: What happened with

2020-04-13 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
For bundling we already have https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0338.html Only mux is w/o XEP. Best Regards, Sergey пн, 13 апр. 2020 г. в 14:41, Daniel Gultsch : > Am Mo., 13. Apr. 2020 um 11:33 Uhr schrieb Sergey Ilinykh < > rion...@gmail.com>: > > > > I can't say an

Re: [Standards] XEP-0167: What happened with

2020-04-13 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
I can't say anything about the history. But I like Jitsi's implementation and will add support to Psi soon. Best Regards, Sergey пн, 13 апр. 2020 г. в 14:23, Daniel Gultsch : > Hi, > > webrtc uses rtcp-mux but to my knowledge XMPP has no way of signaling > that a party wants to use that. > >

Re: [Standards] XEP-0371 (Jingle ICE): update RFC 5245 -> RFC 8445

2020-03-21 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
established for all components at once - Wrong reference to RFC 6455 was replaced with correct one: RFC 6544 Best Regards, Sergey вт, 17 мар. 2020 г. в 12:54, Sergey Ilinykh : > > who is implementing 8445? > > > > Firefox only implements aggressive nomination. > > http

Re: [Standards] XEP-0371 (Jingle ICE): update RFC 5245 -> RFC 8445

2020-03-20 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
> > > >> > I'm still not sure if it solves the problem if one end sends two >> "restart" >> > transport-infos in rapid succession. It'll receive a "restart" >> > transport-info >> > in response, but which one should it pair it with? >> > >> > >> > according to ufrag. >> > >> > so

Re: [Standards] XEP-0371 (Jingle ICE): update RFC 5245 -> RFC 8445

2020-03-19 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
> > > I'm still not sure if it solves the problem if one end sends two > "restart" > > transport-infos in rapid succession. It'll receive a "restart" > > transport-info > > in response, but which one should it pair it with? > > > > > > according to ufrag. > > > > so one end sends

Re: [Standards] XEP-0371 (Jingle ICE): update RFC 5245 -> RFC 8445

2020-03-18 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
> > > I'm still not sure if it solves the problem if one end sends two "restart" > transport-infos in rapid succession. It'll receive a "restart" > transport-info > in response, but which one should it pair it with? > according to ufrag. so one end sends (ep1) restart, the other end (ep2)

Re: [Standards] XEP-0371 (Jingle ICE): update RFC 5245 -> RFC 8445

2020-03-17 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
ndidates should be matched with a set of > > candidates received in a transport-info message. > > > > Perhaps some sort of remote-generation attribute is necessary for > > candidates > > sent in response to a peer's candidates? > > &

Re: [Standards] XEP-0371 (Jingle ICE): update RFC 5245 -> RFC 8445

2020-03-17 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
verywhere. > I don't think bumping the namespace is practical until deployment is more wide-spread. I can agree here. But it would be nice to hear more thoughts from those who already implemented this XEP. вт, 17 мар. 2020 г. в 12:14, Philipp Hancke : > Am 12.03.20 um 22:30 schrieb Serg

Re: [Standards] XEP-0371 (Jingle ICE): update RFC 5245 -> RFC 8445

2020-03-14 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
int to know for certain > which > generation of its local candidates should be matched with a set of > candidates received in a transport-info message. > > Perhaps some sort of remote-generation attribute is necessary for > candidates > sent in response to a peer's candidates? > >

[Standards] XEP-0371 (Jingle ICE): update RFC 5245 -> RFC 8445

2020-03-12 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/905 PR Changes: 1. RFC 5245 is replaced with RFC 8445 2. Aggressive nomination is not supported anymore 3. remote-candidate is now MUST to mimic ICE SDP RFC 4. Now remote-candidate has to be send for all components at once when ICE for media stream

Re: [Standards] Support for stickers (custom emojis)

2019-10-17 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
e. I believe in some cases (not stickers) the text has to be preserved for SIMS. Best Regards, Sergey чт, 17 окт. 2019 г. в 15:43, JC Brand : > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 03:05:32PM +0300, Sergey Ilinykh wrote: > >Doesn't SIMS ([1]https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0385.html) resolve > all

Re: [Standards] Support for stickers (custom emojis)

2019-10-17 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
Doesn't SIMS (https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0385.html) resolve all the concerns yet? We can have a with cid: uri too. The only thing is missed as for me is an attribute where the referenced text has to be removed or not. Best Regards, Sergey чт, 17 окт. 2019 г. в 14:24, Marvin W : > Hi, >

Re: [Standards] SIMS issues

2019-09-07 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2019 19:46:02 CEST Sergey Ilinykh wrote: > > Hi > > > > I mostly implemented SIMS in Psi and see next problems > > > > 1) The requirement for top-level reference element looks strange. > >In Most of the case when I want to share something

Re: [Standards] PR #793 - XEP-0166: Relax transport element requirement

2019-06-26 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
which not if it doesn't bring any value and some other jingle action already allow the absence of the transport element". Best Regards, Sergey ср, 26 июн. 2019 г. в 13:43, Philipp Hancke : > Am 22.06.19 um 17:18 schrieb Sergey Ilinykh: > > In response to Council Minutes 2019-06-19 > > &

[Standards] PR #793 - XEP-0166: Relax transport element requirement

2019-06-22 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
In response to Council Minutes 2019-06-19 quote from https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/XEP-Remarks/XEP-0260:_Jingle_SOCKS5_Bytestreams_Transport_Method Another problem with early (before accept) transport replace is the fact we have to send the same offer twice. For example we have S5B and IBB. The

Re: [Standards] SIMS issues

2019-06-19 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
ср, 19 июн. 2019 г. в 21:33, Ralph Meijer : > On 19/06/2019 19.46, Sergey Ilinykh wrote: > > Hi > > > > I mostly implemented SIMS in Psi and see next problems > > > > 1) The requirement for top-level reference element looks strange. > > In Most of the

[Standards] SIMS issues

2019-06-19 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
Hi I mostly implemented SIMS in Psi and see next problems 1) The requirement for top-level reference element looks strange. In Most of the case when I want to share something, I don't want to refer to anything. If I really want to have a reference I would add it inside of . 2) Top-level

Re: [Standards] XEP-0260 (jingle socks5 transport) candidate-complete event

2019-04-29 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
That would be perfect indeed. пн, 29 апр. 2019 г., 18:16 Evgeny : > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 6:05 PM, Daniel Gultsch > wrote: > > how about sending the upnp as a fallback using transport-replace, with > > a new transport (new id) of type s5b:1? > > Guys, how about switching to TURN instead?

Re: [Standards] XEP-0260 (jingle socks5 transport) candidate-complete event

2019-04-29 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
> By the way would love to do some interop assuming you are currently > implementing Jingle File Transfer in Psi. > > cheers > Daniel > > Am Mo., 29. Apr. 2019 um 10:05 Uhr schrieb Sergey Ilinykh < > rion...@gmail.com>: > > > > Hi > > > > There

[Standards] XEP-0260 (jingle socks5 transport) candidate-complete event

2019-04-29 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
Hi There is a problem with jingle-s5b in the way how it handles additional candidates sent with transport-info message. Let's imagine a situation. We have an accepted session. Both sides sent their host candidates in session-initiate/accept and both sides failed because of NAT. But one of sides

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: DNS Queries over XMPP (DoX)

2019-03-13 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
I guess it's something about accessing forbidden resources from restrictive corporate networks. ср, 13 мар. 2019 г., 10:40 Philipp Hörist : > Whats the use case for this XEP? > Until now i only needed DNS querys to connect to the XMPP Server, i see > this XEP is not helping with that as it

Re: [Standards] Extending XEP-0085 Chat State Notifications, again

2019-03-01 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
I like the addition. Best Regards, Sergey пт, 1 мар. 2019 г. в 11:36, Ненахов Андрей : > This was discussed in July 2018 and, I guess, moved nowhere, but I'll > raise the issue once again. Any decent messenger bar XMPP based ones have > capabilities to signal type of user activity beyond just

[Standards] XEP-0390 improvement proposal: Cashing disco#info for services of user's server

2019-01-02 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
Problem: On each client start it necessary to send to disco info to each service to determine where is upload, muc, socks5 and other useful stuff. This slowdowns the startup and adds some load to the network and server. Depending on implementation and service type this is not obligatory should