RE: ActionForwards, et al (was SuccessAction)

2003-08-14 Thread Byrne, Steven
snip/ I guess I have to reiterate what others have said earlier today: how do you deal with handling or enforcing composition order? I.e. are you implicitly assuming/requiring that the various elements in the chain are orthogonal with respect to changes in the input/output stream or changes in

RE: Dependent Packages in Struts 1.1

2003-02-25 Thread Byrne, Steven
I think that the just released commons-net 1.0 has taken over from jakarta-oro. -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 10:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Dependent Packages in Struts 1.1 snip/ jakarta-oro

RE: Dependent Packages in Struts 1.1

2003-02-25 Thread Byrne, Steven
red-face victim=me / -Original Message- From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 11:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Dependent Packages in Struts 1.1 No. Jakarta ORO is a text processing package that Validator uses for its regular

RE: Bug 16685

2003-02-07 Thread Byrne, Steven
For the humor impaired: that is a total Friday comment, and not meant seriously! -Original Message- From: Byrne, Steven Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 4:04 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: RE: Bug 16685 I like this -- 10% content lines; 90% self serving sig lines

RE: exit strategy was Plans for the upcoming 2/14 soft deadline

2003-02-04 Thread Byrne, Steven
These kinds of things should definitely be in the roadmap document, both as a declarative statement of agreement amongst the developers, as well as an expectation setting mechanism for the rest of the struts community. -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

RE: exit strategy was Plans for the upcoming 2/14 soft deadline

2003-02-04 Thread Byrne, Steven
Ted makes a good point, but it's only valid IF people are looking that closely at the bug list and taking the time to make the proper inferences about the intentions of the developer team. Isn't it much better to make those intentions plain by directly stating them in the roadmap document? Like

RE: Attribute lowsrc of html:img is non-compliant?

2002-11-01 Thread Byrne, Steven
Yep -- your guess is correct. I'm surprised that it isn't in the 4.x spec; I suspect that it was supplanted by an equivalent CSS option. I *think* it is documented in the HTML 3.2 spec. All browsers I know of support it. Basically the browser shows the lowsrc image first (or only) so something

RE: [BUGS] CheckboxTag with value property

2002-10-22 Thread Byrne, Steven
I have to disagree. It's perfectly legitimate for a single checkbox to have a value that's not one of on, yes or true. That's legit HTML. Struts currently (seemingly needlessly) prevents that usage by only having an annointed set of values, and forcing users to use those. I think Franco is

RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and html:html

2002-10-22 Thread Byrne, Steven
Whatever the decision, once it's made it should go into the roadmap document just so there's a record of it -Original Message- From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 12:17 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and

RE: RE: Tiles Refactorings for 1.1 compatability

2002-10-18 Thread Byrne, Steven
of the roadmap so we'd have something to patch :0) http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/status.html -Ted. 10/16/2002 4:42:10 PM, Byrne, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Definitely a big part of what 1.1 is all about is integrating Tiles and Validator into the main Struts distribution

RE: Tiles Refactorings for 1.1 compatability

2002-10-18 Thread Byrne, Steven
] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 11:29 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Tiles Refactorings for 1.1 compatability Byrne, Steven wrote: Here's the draft roadmap that I wrote up. Struts 1.2 January 2003 [duration: 2 months? ] * tiles JSTL aware ? What

RE: Struts Roadmap

2002-10-18 Thread Byrne, Steven
Oh -- sorry -- that was just a serving suggestion for strut-dev to kind of indicate what time frame 1.2 might come out in and what the development duration might be. Remember, the impetus for doing the roadmap in the first place was about figuring out the urgency of including some particular

RE: Tiles Refactorings for 1.1 compatability

2002-10-18 Thread Byrne, Steven
Byrne, Steven wrote: Here's the draft roadmap that I wrote up. Struts 1.1 * Servlet 2.2 / JSP 1.1 based * tiles validator first class citizens * tiles module aware * validator module aware * Struts-el tag lib at contrib status * [need help here] ??? factored out into jakarta

RE: Terminology: modules versus sub-apps

2002-10-18 Thread Byrne, Steven
Sounds like the aye's have it: modules is the term. -Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:husted;apache.org] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 3:14 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Terminology: modules versus sub-apps +1 for modules. If the documentation

RE: Tiles Refactorings for 1.1 compatability

2002-10-16 Thread Byrne, Steven
Definitely a big part of what 1.1 is all about is integrating Tiles and Validator into the main Struts distribution. Pulling them back into pseudo-contrib status would not be a good thing. Has anyone estimated the level of effort to make each of them be sub-app aware? I imagine it's

RE: Tiles Refactorings for 1.1 compatability

2002-10-16 Thread Byrne, Steven
I would think that before Ted or anyone can answer the question of whether to wait until 1.2, a clear roadmap of near term future releases, including features and functionality lists for each release, be published. Right now, saying that it's ok to wait until 1.2 is pretty much meaningless

Multiple struts config files (was RE: Tiles Refactorings for 1.1 compatability)

2002-10-16 Thread Byrne, Steven
I developed a system that handles the need for having multiple components of a Struts application (Struts, Tiles, Validator, etc) partitioned in a modular fashion, so that independent groups could work on their component parts without having to worry about what other groups were doing, and yet

RE: RE: Tiles Refactorings for 1.1 compatability

2002-10-16 Thread Byrne, Steven
What are people's feelings about supporting Servlet 2.2 in post 1.1? Is it time that we can say in 1.2 and beyond that servlet 2.3 is required? I was thinking about the roadmap, and realizing that while a Struts version that was JSF aware was probably a ways off, a version with JSTL

RE: Terminology: modules versus sub-apps

2002-10-16 Thread Byrne, Steven
I think it would be best if we reserved the term modules for the future; in almost all respects, the Struts apps that are referenced by some path off the context root are really little web applications themselves, hence the term sub apps [I don't care if it has a hyphen or not] is more

RE: Terminology: modules versus sub-apps

2002-10-16 Thread Byrne, Steven
Nothing a simple global search replace couldn't handle, right? I understand your point. However, this notation hasn't been in use for very long, and won't be *that* distruptive if it's changed (or even less so if it's just noted in passing somewhere, although personally I'd prefer to do the

RE: Selective diff?

2002-10-07 Thread Byrne, Steven
Well, yeah, you actually might want to make a branch for just that reason: CVS gives you the ability to produce diffs between versions. Assuming Eddie was empowered create such a branch (OT!), then he could check in his changes to that branch. He, or others (since its a visible branch), could

RE: struts tags in java file

2002-10-03 Thread Byrne, Steven
Karen, This the type of question that should be asked on struts-user. The struts-dev mailing list is for people working on the implementation of Struts itself. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 12:52 PM To:

RE: VOTE: Behavior of Validator

2002-09-20 Thread Byrne, Steven
I think the behavior of whether to terminate field level checking on the first field failure should be controllable. For my company's application, it is important to show all the failures for a given field, so the user knows that not only is the field required, but it's a telephone number field

RE: The state of 1.1 Beta 2

2002-08-12 Thread Byrne, Steven
I think as much as we would like to think that new users trying out Struts will understand what the term beta means, I believe reality is that there will be a lot of negative impressions formed by having what's very likely to be the first webapp that newbies will try out fail on them. It gives

Problem with the Validator DTDs

2002-07-29 Thread Byrne, Steven
I think I have discovered a probelm with the recently added validator DTDs: they seem to allow only a single msg and arg 0-3 element according to the content model; I think this is not correct. My understanding is that there can be several msg, and arg[n] elements which are matched up with the

RE: DTDs for Validator Configuration Files

2002-07-10 Thread Byrne, Steven
Take those DTDs with a hefty grain of salt. I think it would be *FAR* better to derive them by looking at the digester code and the associated attribute sets. If it would be of help, I can do this by the end of this week. Steve -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL