Re: RFC: Statistics in Subsurface

2020-05-14 Thread Willem Ferguson via subsurface
On 2020/05/13 23:11, Dirk Hohndel via subsurface wrote: The video that Pedro linked to seemed to indicate that the first chart is most likely to be understood, and that the the second one was harder to see trends in. Conflicting with that is the desire to more typically show bar graphs

Fwd: Re: RFC: Statistics in Subsurface

2020-05-14 Thread Willem Ferguson via subsurface
On 2020/05/14 18:24, Dirk Hohndel wrote: Willem, those are some very strong statements that initially provoked a rather negative reaction in me. Calling someone else's proposal "not up to modern standards" feels borderline insulting. As a matter of fact, yes we can show vertical labels. They

Re: RFC: Statistics in Subsurface

2020-05-14 Thread Dirk Hohndel via subsurface
I really like this. And it very much matches what was said in the video that Pedro mentioned: "Show all the data when possible". And it does that perfectly. So yes, I like that and I think it's a really cool way to visualize SAC rates. I need to spend time to think through all the 'y-axis'

Re: RFC: Statistics in Subsurface (Willem Ferguson)

2020-05-14 Thread Hartley Horwitz via subsurface
> -- Forwarded message -- > From: Willem Ferguson > To: Subsurface Mailing List > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 21:04:14 +0200 > Subject: Fwd: Re: RFC: Statistics in Subsurface > > ….snip > I attach a suggestion that, to me, what it does is to actually plot the > raw

Re: RFC: Statistics in Subsurface (Willem Ferguson)

2020-05-14 Thread Dirk Hohndel via subsurface
> On May 14, 2020, at 1:09 PM, Hartley Horwitz via subsurface > wrote: > > I know this plot as a 'beeswarm'. I'm not sure if that's a universally used > term, but I use those in Spotfire (a large statistics tool). I thought I > should show the same type of plot that contains a bit more

Re: RFC: Statistics in Subsurface

2020-05-14 Thread Rick Walsh via subsurface
I think it's great statistics are being tackled again, and it's excellent to have several mock-ups to discuss so hopefully some consensus can be made before people spend countless hours on code that ends up rejected because the presentation isn't as desired. On Thu, 14 May 2020, 17:24 Willem

Re: RFC: Statistics in Subsurface

2020-05-14 Thread Christof Arnosti via subsurface
Hi together, Thank you very much for the verry nice mockup, Pedro! I really like this! Let me give some thoughts from a more-or-less outsider perspective in this discussion. From a UI-Perspective, I would prefer the layout to be "Dive List top left", "Filter top right", "Stats selection

Re: RFC: Statistics in Subsurface

2020-05-14 Thread Dirk Hohndel via subsurface
> On May 14, 2020, at 12:21 AM, Willem Ferguson via subsurface > wrote: > I must admit that I do not like any of these three representations. They are > inappropriate and inaccurate, leading to misinterpretation. > > The top graph is normally used to indicate trends in three *independent* >

Re: RFC: Statistics in Subsurface

2020-05-14 Thread Dirk Hohndel via subsurface
Hi Chrisof > On May 14, 2020, at 3:30 AM, Christof Arnosti wrote: > Let me give some thoughts from a more-or-less outsider perspective in this > discussion. > > From a UI-Perspective, I would prefer the layout to be "Dive List top left", > "Filter top right", "Stats selection bottom left",