Re: [sugar] [IAEP] squeak/etoys accepted as free software...

2008-11-09 Thread Albert Cahalan
Jecel Assumpcao Jr writes: Holger Levsen wrote: IIRC/IIUC this is one aspect why the ftpmasters didnt accept it in main. More generally said, (IIRC) it's because the impossibility to bootstrap etoys. Is the subject correct? I mean I know we are talking about a directory called non-free but

Re: [sugar] The XO laptop gets a Windows makeover

2008-10-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was a very poor experiment and the article had a number of items of misinformation. The author of the article did not take advantage of the fact that she had 2 XOs . She did not boot both in Sugar to observe the collaboration capabilities of Sugar and

Re: [sugar] The XO laptop gets a Windows makeover

2008-10-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 7:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: File sharing is not an active real time collaboration tool by any means. Right. Active real-time collaboration is nice, and I wish my own editor had it, but I think you're overvaluing it greatly. In sugar multiple

Re: [sugar] Window manager support for standard applications

2008-10-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
Marco Pesenti Gritti writes: On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Wade Brainerd wadetb at gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 4:11 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti mpgritti at gmail.comwrote: 11 replace matchbox with a more traditional desktop window manager, with the ability to fullscreen windows

Re: [sugar] Filesystem path ordering overrated.

2008-10-01 Thread Albert Cahalan
C. Scott Ananian writes: The response usually is that additional context is sufficient to disambiguate tag sets, you don't actually need ordering. That is, it's okay if a/b is indistinguishable from b/a -- in practice one will really be c/a/b and the other will be b/a/d or whatever, and you

Re: [sugar] Measure Activity - proposal for inclusion in OLPC build

2008-09-22 Thread Albert Cahalan
Arjun Sarwal writes: I would like to propose Measure Activity to be included in the build. I really think this activity is important. I'm not so sure it is ready to ship. (3) Provides instant feedback (eg. make sound and see waveform) Out of the box, all I get is a crooked line that jumps

Re: [sugar] Ideas for Journal: How epiphany browser manages bookmarks just with tags

2008-09-19 Thread Albert Cahalan
Eben Eliason writes: On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Eduardo H. Silva hoboprimate at gmail.com wrote: 2008/9/19 C. Scott Ananian cscott at laptop.org: Eben, Eduardo, and I have been chatting about this some over IRC. What I find most interesting here is how *filesystem paths* (well, URL

[sugar] need a script to clean my journal

2008-08-02 Thread Albert Cahalan
I want to delete everything that isn't an activity. In case that isn't practical, I could settle for just deleting everything. That would be awful though, because I want to clean out my journal at every boot. This is to recover some space, and maybe some RAM or CPU time. I'm OK with sacrificing

Re: [sugar] Performance

2008-07-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
Greg Smith writes: I just got word from a decision maker in Uruguay that they are very concerned about performance. They say that Sugar is slow. I'm probing to get more details but I want to evaluate the options in parallel. ... This may cost us significantly if we don't show improvement.

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] OLPC's bizarre behaviors

2008-05-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
Note that we *cannot* share much of the information about the possible alternatives we are examining for Gen-2 hardware until decisions are final; it is the basis of serious negotiations among competing parties, under non-disclosure agreements. Lest rumors of more OLPC secrets get started,

Re: [sugar] Microsoft

2008-05-16 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 5:28 AM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just look at the deal. Dual-boot costs $7 extra. Governments will not pay the extra $7 to allow dual-boot. No, Windows costs about $7 extra

Re: [sugar] Microsoft

2008-05-15 Thread Albert Cahalan
Seth Woodworth writes: So as a fair practice I think it's clear that no special actions can ethically be made to prevent Windows or any other OS from running on the machine. So a Windows port for the XO isn't something that could have been preventative. Wrong. It's called tit-for-tat,

[sugar] the ring

2008-05-07 Thread Albert Cahalan
It was terrible to lose the pie chart for resource usage. That was very useful for both developers and kids. The new design makes the loss permanent, while still keeping a visual design that no longer makes any sense. Fixing the old ring doesn't seem so difficult. You can't have a minimum

Re: [sugar] perceived sugar performance

2008-05-01 Thread Albert Cahalan
Michael Stone writes: On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 07:58:06PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: * It deals with the problem of children clicking on 2-3 activities at the same time, which proved to be a real issue in the field (will faster activities address this? not sure). If you actually

Re: [sugar] perceived sugar performance

2008-05-01 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1 May 2008, at 16:24, Albert Cahalan wrote: For other reasons (GUI complexity and the OOM killer), the ability to launch multiple activities should be disabled by default. Do you mean 2+ instances of one activity

Re: [sugar] Sugar\Windows won't ship

2008-04-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Joshua N Pritikin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I have posted before, I am not distressed by the inclusion of Windows on the XO laptop, perhaps in a dual-boot configuration or whatever. What would distress me is if Windows was not sold as an option. If laptops

[sugar] what matters

2008-04-24 Thread Albert Cahalan
It's clear that we aren't all here for the same thing. Some wish to help all kids, or poor kids, or non-Western kids. Some wish to advance freedom of speech, freedom from EULA slavery, or freedom to learn heretical ideas. Some of us are, assuming good intentions, extremely innocent regarding

Re: [sugar] Sugar UI design and Tux Paint

2007-12-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
Jameson Chema Quinn writes: One thing I've noticed in Tux Paint is that an Edit toolbar is far less useful than an Edit menu. You want to copy something - you go to the edit toolbar - you select the copy 'tool' - and nothing happens, because you don't have anything selected. So how do you

Re: [sugar] Playing with IDEs

2007-12-25 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Dec 25, 2007 6:28 PM, Bernardo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeffrey Kesselman wrote: Now this isnt to say that a minimum resolution cant work in the same way it works on PCs... it works IF you can go full screen at that resolution and if the game can request that resolution. It

Re: [sugar] Web activity not containerized?

2007-12-22 Thread Albert Cahalan
Michael Stone writes: On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 11:29:40PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Why not simply run it as the same (non-olpc) user every time? - Bert - I don't personally want to provide such an option because I consider it prone to abuse. I'm not seeing much of a problem here.

Re: [sugar] Booting to text mode

2007-12-20 Thread Albert Cahalan
Paul Kippes writes: How can I prevent the OLPC from attempting to start the GUI and just dump me into the root prompt or login? I have no abilities to run terminal since it is failing to start the X server and forever is looping trying to do so. Agh! I reported this bug ages ago.

Re: [sugar] [laptop-accessibility] GPLv3 IRT Fonts

2007-11-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
Woah, hold on a second... These fonts have terrible coverage. Not even Latin-1 is covered. You get 80 of the 96 characters in the 0x00a0 to 0x00ff range. Furthermore, are the fonts actually good for what is claimed? Remember that they may be optimized for low-res screens without anti-aliasing.

Re: [sugar] secure /tmp and /var/tmp

2007-11-08 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 11/8/07, Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 7, 2007, at 9:09 PM, Albert Cahalan wrote: Using standard directories is not scribbling all over the filesystem! This anti-compatibility attitude needs to stop. It's really hurting OLPC, needlessly making the goals harder

Re: [sugar] secure /tmp and /var/tmp

2007-11-08 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 11/8/07, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In some cases though it's better to break than to keep a fake compatibility with something which is designed for a different use case. That way the error is explicit and the activity author knows it needs to be fixed. And I agree with

[sugar] providing files to activities

2007-11-07 Thread Albert Cahalan
I'm hearing that files will be provided to activites as hard links. This is not good. It prevents atomic update via rename. Far better is to provide directories, one per file, so that updates can be made atomic. While you can't hard link a directory, you can bind mount it. This is essentially the

Re: [sugar] Bitfrost compliance for Update.1

2007-11-03 Thread Albert Cahalan
Ivan Krstic writes: On Nov 2, 2007, at 12:02 PM, Michael Stone wrote: Can we create subdirectories within /tmp? I would really prefer it if you used $SUGAR_ACTIVITY_ROOT/tmp instead. I think Erik was in fact referring to the 'tmp' inside SUGAR_ACTIVITY_ROOT. Writes to the real /tmp are

Re: [sugar] how to make a grayscale image?

2007-11-01 Thread Albert Cahalan
Eben Eliason writes: Roughly speaking, you can calculate a colored pixel's effective luminance by: Y = 0.3*R+0.59*G+0.11*B To be clear on why this is rough: it performs an operation on non-linear data which is only valid on linear data. That is, it ignores gamma. From best to worst: a.

Re: [sugar] Resuming by default

2007-10-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
Bert Freudenberg writes: We do *not* want to start with a clean state every time. ... I have personally observed this over the last months, with passers-by as well as with regular users like my own kids. Resuming from the Journal is a very rarely used feature. E.g., my son (8yo) really likes

Re: [sugar] Journal integration design for Measure Activity

2007-10-22 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 10/22/07, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/22/07, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/22/07, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/21/07, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The simplest format for audio data is an audio file. Basic *.wav data

Re: [sugar] Journal integration design for Measure Activity

2007-10-21 Thread Albert Cahalan
Arjun Sarwal writes: 1) Since many logs are going to be associated with one logging session, what is the best way to pack these log files and associate with the journal? Should one make a .zip file of all the log files ? That's OK, but don't waste effort on compression. Standards say you use

Re: [sugar] Journal integration design for Measure Activity

2007-10-21 Thread Albert Cahalan
That's OK, but don't waste effort on compression. Standards say you use the pax format, or at least something like tar or cpio. Interesting point. Perhaps, with our filesystem, we should always prefer something other than zip for bundles? Tar would be a good pick. It's also because

Re: [sugar] Journal integration design for Measure Activity

2007-10-21 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 10/22/07, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/21/07, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The simplest format for audio data is an audio file. Basic *.wav data is really simple. It's a 44-byte header followed by the raw data. Obviously I know little about the .wav format

Re: [sugar] did the recent launch changes get into a build?

2007-10-13 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 10/12/07, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the unstable builds: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/ These don't have ChangeLog files. It'd be good to know what is going on. I'm guessing that after Trial3 the latest one of these becomes a regular OS build;

[sugar] did the recent launch changes get into a build?

2007-10-11 Thread Albert Cahalan
The stuff involving *.activity exec lines and names not being DBUS services and all... in which OS build does it land? ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

[sugar] linfo files should go

2007-09-15 Thread Albert Cahalan
Activity files are based on this spec: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktop-entry-spec According to the spec, translation is handled like this: [Activity] name = Tux Paint name[af] = Tux Verf name[da] = Tux maling name[et] = Joonistame koos Tuksiga! name[gos] = Vaarve name[hr]

Re: [sugar] First impressions of a B4 machine

2007-08-01 Thread Albert Cahalan
Ivo Emanuel Gongalves writes: Paint, is this the famous Tux Paint? I have heard that it is a very neat drawing app for kids, but what I saw so far was an Open/Save interface more awful than the one used by the other porgrams. What the Niflheim where the developers thinking? It doesn't make