On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 12:51:43PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Eben Eliason wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Gary C Martin wrote:
> >> On 3 Jul 2009, at 10:01, Martin Langhoff wrote:
>
> >>> Wishlist: "show files by size" filter or option? If the Urugua
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Eben Eliason wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Gary C Martin wrote:
>> On 3 Jul 2009, at 10:01, Martin Langhoff wrote:
>>> Wishlist: "show files by size" filter or option? If the Uruguay
>>> experience is any indicator, a fact of life is that users after all
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Gaurav Bhushan wrote:
> Sure Fred, let me know what would be required of me.
>
Perhaps you could look at the list of nouns and verbs below and think of
icons to represent them.
If you see 'garycmartin' on irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar, ask him his views
on what is
Hi Eben,
On 5 Jul 2009, at 23:52, Gary C Martin wrote:
> On 4 Jul 2009, at 04:19, Eben Eliason wrote:
>> I'll throw this idea back out there for fun, too. I don't know if
>> there's a way to do even this without adding too much complexity, but
>> we did make some mockups of an "advanced" sort bar
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 13:56, Sascha
Silbe wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 11:08:21AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>
>>> You're right on spot. The only prefixes used (but not defined for the
>>> query)
>>> are:
>>
>> Not quite, the association from mime_type: to M is doing when
>> constructing the q
On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 11:08:21AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
You're right on spot. The only prefixes used (but not defined for the
query)
are:
Not quite, the association from mime_type: to M is doing when
constructing the query: [...]
So to support that we just need to call add_prefix on the
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:51, Sascha
Silbe wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 04:55:57PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote:
>
>> Just to confirm; I take it that Xapians prefix maps haven't been used so
>> far in the Journal index implementation (i.e. title:Paint,
>> description:meeting, or tags:homework)?
On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 04:55:57PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote:
Just to confirm; I take it that Xapians prefix maps haven't been used
so far in the Journal index implementation (i.e. title:Paint,
description:meeting, or tags:homework)? Point me at rep Sugar source
if that's quicker (not sur
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 17:55, Gary C Martin wrote:
> On 4 Jul 2009, at 09:56, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 05:19, Eben Eliason wrote:
>>>
>>> It sounds like you're describing a NOT filter (eg. kind:text NOT
>>> activity:terminal), though, which the current UI doesn't support, as
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Gary C Martin wrote:
> ... One thing we could do
> to try to move forward on the new toolbar concept is to build svg
> icons for as many of the tabs that are already in use. We need to come
> up with clear and identifiable icon for each **before** moving forward
>
On 4 Jul 2009, at 03:36, Eben Eliason wrote:
> That said, I'm actually thinking that the tag
> dropdown should be an extension of the search field itself. Perhaps
> it's just to the right, and only needs to be a little down arrow that
> reveals the tags (or perhaps we even modify the search entry t
Hi James,
On 3 Jul 2009, at 19:29, James Zaki wrote:
> Perhaps this is a late reply, (I am yet to read the last 6 or so
> digests of to 20+ that were in my inbox)
No not late at all! :-)
> But I am always sensitive of little incremental additions that seem
> like it would be useful.
>
> I a
On 1 Jul 2009, at 11:36, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 19:02, Gary C Martin
> wrote:
>> Being Mr ActivityTeam at the moment, I do really worry about the
>> amount of work this is going to be to get Activities updated and
>> complying to a large toolbar redesign. Supporting both to
On 4 Jul 2009, at 04:19, Eben Eliason wrote:
> I'll throw this idea back out there for fun, too. I don't know if
> there's a way to do even this without adding too much complexity, but
> we did make some mockups of an "advanced" sort bar, which instead of
> sorting on columns allowed creation of h
On 4 Jul 2009, at 16:29, Gary C Martin wrote:
>
> P.S. Should have another round of updates to the mock-ups later today.
OK, that's the next revision & update of mock-up images with comments
– still more to add (When/Who), but the toolbars at least show icons
for the main potential top-level f
On 4 Jul 2009, at 09:56, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 05:19, Eben Eliason wrote:
>>
>> It sounds like you're describing a NOT filter (eg. kind:text NOT
>> activity:terminal), though, which the current UI doesn't support, as
>> all of the filter options are combined with an AND. I t
On 4 Jul 2009, at 10:08, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 20:29, James Zaki wrote:
>> Perhaps this is a late reply, (I am yet to read the last 6 or so
>> digests of
>> to 20+ that were in my inbox)
>> But I am always sensitive of little incremental additions that seem
>> like it
>>
rt from the two identical cloud icons,
> there are lots of activities in that dropdown. Has that always been so big?
> To me that would be intimidating for the first user experience.
>
> James.
>
>
>>
>> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 04:25:54 +0000
>> From: Aleksey Lim
>
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 05:19, Eben Eliason wrote:
>
> It sounds like you're describing a NOT filter (eg. kind:text NOT
> activity:terminal), though, which the current UI doesn't support, as
> all of the filter options are combined with an AND. I think adding
> boolean AND/OR/NOT controls to the fil
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 06:13:24PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote:
>> Hi Aleksey,
>>
>> On 3 Jul 2009, at 05:25, Aleksey Lim wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:29:47AM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote:
Aleksey was keen to see any Journal mock-up wo
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Gary C Martin wrote:
> On 3 Jul 2009, at 10:01, Martin Langhoff wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Gary C Martin wrote:
>>>
>>> Aleksey was keen to see any Journal mock-up work in progress I had,
>>> early as possible, so here's where I'm at :-) There's plen
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 06:29:21PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote:
> On 3 Jul 2009, at 05:53, Aleksey Lim wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:25:54AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
>>> * additional types of filters
>>> for example Library has[2] several types to filter objects
>>>
>>> * user tags
>>>
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 08:29:10PM +0200, James Zaki wrote:
> Perhaps this is a late reply, (I am yet to read the last 6 or so digests of
> to 20+ that were in my inbox)
> But I am always sensitive of little incremental additions that seem like it
> would be useful.
>
> I always try to think about
2009 04:25:54 +
> From: Aleksey Lim
> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main
>display
> To: Gary C Martin
> Cc: Sugar Devel
> Message-ID: <20090703042553.ga15...@antilopa-gnu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
On 3 Jul 2009, at 10:01, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Gary C Martin
> wrote:
>> Aleksey was keen to see any Journal mock-up work in progress I had,
>> early as possible, so here's where I'm at :-) There's plenty to do
>> still, images are intended to help bounce ideas
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 06:40:37PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote:
> On 3 Jul 2009, at 06:13, Aleksey Lim wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 05:06:30AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:53:42AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:25:54AM +, Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 06:36:07PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote:
>
> On 3 Jul 2009, at 06:06, Aleksey Lim wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:53:42AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:25:54AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
* additional types of filters
for example Libr
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 06:13:24PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote:
> Hi Aleksey,
>
> On 3 Jul 2009, at 05:25, Aleksey Lim wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:29:47AM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote:
>>> Aleksey was keen to see any Journal mock-up work in progress I had,
>>> early as possible, so here's whe
On 3 Jul 2009, at 06:13, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 05:06:30AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:53:42AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:25:54AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
* additional types of filters
for example Library h
On 3 Jul 2009, at 06:06, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:53:42AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:25:54AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
>>> * additional types of filters
>>> for example Library has[2] several types to filter objects
>>>
>>> * user tags
>>> *
On 3 Jul 2009, at 05:53, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:25:54AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
>> * additional types of filters
>> for example Library has[2] several types to filter objects
>>
>> * user tags
>> * object traits(additional columns from previous section) like
>> auth
Hi Aleksey,
On 3 Jul 2009, at 05:25, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:29:47AM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote:
>> Aleksey was keen to see any Journal mock-up work in progress I had,
>> early as possible, so here's where I'm at :-) There's plenty to do
>> still, images are intended to hel
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:01, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Gary C Martin wrote:
>> Aleksey was keen to see any Journal mock-up work in progress I had,
>> early as possible, so here's where I'm at :-) There's plenty to do
>> still, images are intended to help bounce ideas
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 11:01:25AM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Gary C Martin wrote:
> > Aleksey was keen to see any Journal mock-up work in progress I had,
> > early as possible, so here's where I'm at :-) There's plenty to do
> > still, images are intended to he
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 03:40, Gary C Martin wrote:
> On 1 Jul 2009, at 10:54, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 18:14, Gary C Martin wrote:
>>>
>>> - Showing tags under the title would be great (Tomeu, I will help where I
>>> can)
>>
>> Hope to push my work on the journal treeview s
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Gary C Martin wrote:
> Aleksey was keen to see any Journal mock-up work in progress I had,
> early as possible, so here's where I'm at :-) There's plenty to do
> still, images are intended to help bounce ideas about, poke at the
> grey matter between our ears, and ge
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 05:06:30AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:53:42AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:25:54AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> > > * additional types of filters
> > > for example Library has[2] several types to filter objects
> > >
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:53:42AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:25:54AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> > * additional types of filters
> > for example Library has[2] several types to filter objects
> >
> > * user tags
> > * object traits(additional columns from previou
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:25:54AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> * additional types of filters
> for example Library has[2] several types to filter objects
>
> * user tags
> * object traits(additional columns from previous section) like author,
> genre, date for books
> * activity creato
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:29:47AM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote:
> On 2 Jul 2009, at 02:40, Gary C Martin wrote:
>
>> On 1 Jul 2009, at 10:54, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 18:14, Gary C Martin
>>> wrote:
- Better Anything toolbar filter palette (use a grid layout to
minim
On 2 Jul 2009, at 02:40, Gary C Martin wrote:
> On 1 Jul 2009, at 10:54, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 18:14, Gary C Martin
>> wrote:
>>> - Better Anything toolbar filter palette (use a grid layout to
>>> minimise
>>> scrolling)
>>
>> Yeah, that will be great. I think Walter alrea
On 1 Jul 2009, at 10:54, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 18:14, Gary C Martin
> wrote:
>> - Showing tags under the title would be great (Tomeu, I will help
>> where I
>> can)
>
> Hope to push my work on the journal treeview soon, then you can take
> it and do whatever graphics mod
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 19:02, Gary C Martin wrote:
> On 30 Jun 2009, at 00:32, Michael Stone wrote:
>
> -- big snip from old thread ---
>
>>> - Better Anything toolbar filter palette (use a grid layout to
>>> minimise scrolling)
>>
>> How do you think
>>
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Te
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 18:14, Gary C Martin wrote:
> On 29 Jun 2009, at 16:07, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 16:55, Aleksey Lim wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 02:39:22PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote:
We have about 60 characters worth of blank space in every Jour
On 30 Jun 2009, at 00:32, Michael Stone wrote:
-- big snip from old thread ---
>> - Better Anything toolbar filter palette (use a grid layout to
>> minimise scrolling)
>
> How do you think
>
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Designs/Toolbars
>
> would work out here?
An 'Anything' filt
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 08:46:56AM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 08:59:30PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> >> > I would be interested to see this applied to a few
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 08:59:30PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote:
>> > I would be interested to see this applied to a few dozen common
>> > workflows, such as student portfolios, a business p
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 08:59:30PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> > I would be interested to see this applied to a few dozen common
> > workflows, such as student portfolios, a business plan, a lesson plan,
> > a textbook incorporating software
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> Oh, Michael, you're in trouble now. ^_^
>
> You risk reinventing the data-centric Ontology in an Object-Oriented
> Programming form. This is one of the worst sinks for time and mental
> energy that I know of. It saps the will, because soon us
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Michael Stone wrote:
>
> Gary C. Martin wrote:
>
>> I like the intent, but I don't think the "activity centric" view has
>> concrete enough spec to consider implementing yet.
>
> I want to convince you that we actually have enough detail to make forward
> progress w
Oh, Michael, you're in trouble now. ^_^
You risk reinventing the data-centric Ontology in an Object-Oriented
Programming form. This is one of the worst sinks for time and mental
energy that I know of. It saps the will, because soon users become
obsessed with making the map match the territory, whe
Gary C. Martin wrote:
> I like the intent, but I don't think the "activity centric" view has
> concrete enough spec to consider implementing yet.
I want to convince you that we actually have enough detail to make forward
progress with.
To that end, I'm going to offer a bunch of text on how I
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 20:13, Gary C Martin wrote:
>> Hi Tomeu,
>>
>> On 28 Jun 2009, at 09:59, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>
>>> 2009/6/21 Edward Cherlin :
We have about 60 characters worth of blank space in every Journal
entry. It wo
On 29 Jun 2009, at 16:07, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 16:55, Aleksey Lim
> wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 02:39:22PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote:
>>> We have about 60 characters worth of blank space in every Journal
>>> entry. It would be a great help if we could display 40-
On 29 Jun 2009, at 15:55, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 02:39:22PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote:
>> We have about 60 characters worth of blank space in every Journal
>> entry. It would be a great help if we could display 40-50 characters
>> from the description field for each entry o
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 16:55, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 02:39:22PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote:
>> We have about 60 characters worth of blank space in every Journal
>> entry. It would be a great help if we could display 40-50 characters
>> from the description field for each ent
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 02:39:22PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> We have about 60 characters worth of blank space in every Journal
> entry. It would be a great help if we could display 40-50 characters
> from the description field for each entry on the main page. We could
> also drop off the word
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 20:13, Gary C Martin wrote:
> Hi Tomeu,
>
> On 28 Jun 2009, at 09:59, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>
>> 2009/6/21 Edward Cherlin :
>>>
>>> We have about 60 characters worth of blank space in every Journal
>>> entry. It would be a great help if we could display 40-50 characters
>>> fr
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Gary C Martin wrote:
...
FWIW: That transcluded wiki template set-up was kind'a hard for me to get my
> head around, took some poking before I managed to edit the right sub page
> correctly. Not that there are likely many wiki novices expected to edit
> these tech
Hi Fred,
On 28 Jun 2009, at 19:33, Frederick Grose wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Gary C Martin
> wrote:
>
> I've just tried a quick mock-up to bounce around some ideas, Tomeu
> is there a wiki page you're working from that this (and others)
> could go? Likely needs more refinem
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Gary C Martin wrote:
> Hi Tomeu,
>
> On 28 Jun 2009, at 09:59, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>
>> 2009/6/21 Edward Cherlin :
>>>
>>> We have about 60 characters worth of blank space in every Journal
>>> entry. It would be a great help if we could display 40-50 characters
>>>
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Gary C Martin wrote:
>
> I've just tried a quick mock-up to bounce around some ideas, Tomeu is there
> a wiki page you're working from that this (and others) could go? Likely
> needs more refinement but might a few more thinking on it :-)
http://wiki.sugarlabs.o
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> We have about 60 characters worth of blank space in every Journal
> entry. It would be a great help if we could display 40-50 characters
> from the description field for each entry on the main page. We could
> also drop off the word Activity
2009/6/21 Edward Cherlin :
> We have about 60 characters worth of blank space in every Journal
> entry. It would be a great help if we could display 40-50 characters
> from the description field for each entry on the main page. We could
> also drop off the word Activity from every Activity name.
A
We have about 60 characters worth of blank space in every Journal
entry. It would be a great help if we could display 40-50 characters
from the description field for each entry on the main page. We could
also drop off the word Activity from every Activity name.
I am going to create dozens of lesso
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