Re: [Sugar-devel] How to Make Activity Designers Happy , Parts I and II

2009-01-01 Thread Bryan Berry
On Thu, 2009-01-01 at 23:06 -0500, Chris Ball wrote: Hi Bryan, Sadly, Javascript can't use the Graphics Processing Unit like Flash can. Ouch, The XO doesn't have much of a GPU, so I wouldn't be so worried about this. Any Javascript renderer that backs onto cairo will get as any

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] How to Make Activity Designers Happy , Parts I and II

2009-01-02 Thread Bryan Berry
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 12:30 -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: I think Bryan's idea is wonderfully practical. What's more, it sounds easy to achieve. You just need a 'swf-activity' launcher, and a script to sugarize .SWF files into .xo bundles which launch as fullscreen activities. that's a

Re: [Sugar-devel] web-based activities (was Re: [IAEP] How to Make Activity Designers Happy , Parts I and II)

2009-01-02 Thread Bryan Berry
. It is great tool. But folks who develop web UIs use css, html, javascript, and flash. I highly doubt that will change in the near or distant future. These are people we need to recruit as activity designers. On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 02:50, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: This is a draft

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] How to Make Activity Designers Happy , Parts I and II

2009-01-02 Thread Bryan Berry
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 14:54 -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: I don't understand the construing of constructionism with exclusively high-level math and science and I don't quite what you mean by foundational skills. I don't think anyone would argue that we don't

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] How to Make Activity Designers Happy , Parts I and II

2009-01-02 Thread Bryan Berry
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 15:18 -0500, Walter Bender wrote: I think we have consensus on three issues: (1) We should try to support better integration of more development environments into Sugar (e.g., cookbook Flash and Javascript support of the Journal); (2) We should encourage Activity

Re: [Sugar-devel] idea for Sugar slogan and name

2009-01-11 Thread Bryan Berry
Sugar: A Place to Play and Learn I have trouble saying this 3x quickly due to the repetition of the Pla sound. It may sound trivial but it does affect our ability to repeat it often and consistently On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 16:28 +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 16:11, imm

[Sugar-devel] schedule for XO Camp2 -- pls add moodle presentation

2009-01-11 Thread Bryan Berry
Tony, you really, really should give a presentation on moodle at XO Camp here is the wiki page w/ the schedule. I recommend u fit it in somewhere http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XOCamp_2 -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org

[Sugar-devel] regrouping today - avoiding all the fun at fudcon

2009-01-11 Thread Bryan Berry
Hey guys, I have had a ton of fun at fudcon. I have fallen way behind on a bunch of stuff I have to do my for my team back in Nepal. I am going to try to focus on that stuff today. Pls call me at 562-318-9018 if you need me for anything -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Groupthink 0.1 pre-alpha

2009-01-14 Thread Bryan Berry
I love any name that somehow reference directly or indirectly George Orwell's Classic 1984. I dont' know if 1984 ever used the term groupthink but it certainly coined the wonderful term doublethink :) On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 19:26 -0500, Caroline Meeks wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:59 PM,

[Sugar-devel] awesome demo of flex

2009-01-21 Thread Bryan Berry
http://flex.org/tour Is there anyway to get pygtk or js+html+css to compete w/ this? This tour is really impressive. -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] awesome demo of flex

2009-01-21 Thread Bryan Berry
looks like someone is working on it -- Palm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_webOS On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 16:02 -0500, Luke Faraone wrote: On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 21 Jan 2009, at 18:41, Bryan Berry wrote: http

[Sugar-devel] Mojo - an application framework for desktop apps using html5, js, and css

2009-01-21 Thread Bryan Berry
http://developer.palm.com/ the mojo framework could be used to create neat little activities in very little time w/ a very low barrier to entry it part of palm's linux based WebOS. very neat little project -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org

[Sugar-devel] Mojo - an application framework for desktop apps using html5, js, and css

2009-01-21 Thread Bryan Berry
http://developer.palm.com/ the mojo framework could be used to create neat little activities in very little time w/ a very low barrier to entry it part of palm's linux based WebOS. very neat little project -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] ActivityTeam inaugural meeting

2009-01-28 Thread Bryan Berry
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 02:35 +, Aleksey Lim wrote: its(adding new intruments) already in progress :) Awesome! Zamechatelno! -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

[Sugar-devel] Deployment Training 101 course, now in moodle

2009-02-10 Thread Bryan Berry
http://moodle.olenepal.org/course/view.php?id=28 you can try it out by logging in as guest This is the course I am giving to Nepal's deployment vlounteers -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org ___ Sugar-devel

[Sugar-devel] any way to display Nand full boot message in Nepali?

2009-02-16 Thread Bryan Berry
I am quite happy that the XO now displays a Disk full message when the nand is full and notifies the user that a number of journal entries will be deleted. Is there any way to display that same text in Nepali for our users here in Nepal? -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal,

Re: [Sugar-devel] #370 HIGH: Can't open pdf after downloading from Browsev103 using Readv52

2009-02-18 Thread Bryan Berry
Tomeu, tks We are working from OLPC's Staging 32 build which I believe roughly corresponds to OLPC's 0.82.1 release http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/staging/32 Is Browse-99 the most up-to-date version that I can use? http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/staging/32 On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 09:03 +,

[Sugar-devel] Displaying flash activities automatically in Browse

2009-02-18 Thread Bryan Berry
Kings of Browse, We are working from OLPC's Staging 32 build which I believe roughly corresponds to OLPC's 0.82.1 release http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/staging/32 We want to change Browse so that Flash .swf files are displayed automatically rather than the box that reads Click X to display flash.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Displaying flash activities automatically in Browse

2009-02-18 Thread Bryan Berry
Well my gf says I am incredibly insecure so maybe I can attempt to hack sugar :) I will try hacking on the the stylesheet On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 10:25 +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:21, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: Kings of Browse, We are working from OLPC's

Re: [Sugar-devel] #370 HIGH: Can't open pdf after downloading from Browsev103 using Readv52

2009-02-18 Thread Bryan Berry
, Sayamindu On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: Tomeu, tks We are working from OLPC's Staging 32 build which I believe roughly corresponds to OLPC's 0.82.1 release http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/staging/32 Is Browse-99 the most up-to-date version

Re: [Sugar-devel] #370 HIGH: Can't open pdf after downloading from Browsev103 using Readv52

2009-02-18 Thread Bryan Berry
http://dev.laptop.org/raw-attachment/ticket/9112/Browse-101.xo It is for the 8.2.1 release, and has got support for showing PDF files within the browser using a plug-in. Thanks, Sayamindu On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: Tomeu, tks We are working

[Sugar-devel] idea for GSoC project

2009-03-18 Thread Bryan Berry
I earlier advocated a framework called Karma for integrating flash swfs into Sugar. I now believe that javascript + html5 is a much better bet because it better adheres to our common belief in open-source and allows View Source. Also, there are far more javascript developers out there than flash

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Labs

2009-03-18 Thread Bryan Berry
is still not open source, and that creates issues when distributing it (Adobe does not let you include it pre-installed in images for download). Bryan Berry from OLE Nepal (cc:ed on this mail) has some good ideas about how that idea should work, though he's not signed up as a mentor. You should

Re: [Sugar-devel] idea for GSoC project

2009-03-18 Thread Bryan Berry
, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: I earlier advocated a framework called Karma for integrating flash swfs into Sugar. I now believe that javascript + html5 is a much better bet because it better adheres to our common belief in open-source and allows View Source. Also, there are far more

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Labs

2009-03-18 Thread Bryan Berry
for js+html5 for all apps place of flash. On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 10:47 +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: 2009/3/18 Bryan Berry bryan.be...@gmail.com: Felipe, never bet against the browser is absolutely true However, gnash is roughly 2-3 developer years behind macromedia flash. the big hurdle

Re: [Sugar-devel] Making Read read everything [WAS: Re: FBReader]

2009-03-18 Thread Bryan Berry
that's a great idea Manu, I also like calibre. I highly recommend you talk w/ Pratham Books. They are a great organization and are putting out a lot of the READ India books as e-books under CC 3.0 . You should talk w/ Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org . He is a great guy here in Nepal, we

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Labs

2009-03-18 Thread Bryan Berry
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: They don't compare currently but they are developing rapidly, particularly aptana http://www.aptana.com

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Labs

2009-03-18 Thread Bryan Berry
and Linux * Open API Add rich desktop capabilities to your apps using a simple Javascript API Brian 2009/3/17 Bryan Berry bryan.be...@gmail.com: Felipe, never bet against the browser is absolutely true However, gnash is roughly 2-3 developer years behind macromedia flash

Re: [Sugar-devel] SWF Sugar

2009-03-22 Thread Bryan Berry
hard * Skills needed: Javascript/Python integration (PyXPCom, hulahop), CSS, knowlege of SQL * potential mentors: Wade Brainerd (wadetb at gmail dot com), Bryan Berry (bryan at olenepal dot org) can serve as project manager, define requirements and project

Re: [Sugar-devel] next meeting.

2009-03-23 Thread Bryan Berry
here are our next steps: Me: Create basic project plan for the Karma project You: Get titanium running on your linux machine. Bonus if you get it running w/in Sugar. also, please e-mail me at br...@olenepal.org , I use that e-mail address for communicating w/ the Sugar list On Mon, 2009-03-23 at

[Sugar-devel] project plan for Karma GSoC project

2009-03-23 Thread Bryan Berry
hey Felipe, I have put some ideas of a project plan together for karma GSoC project. Check it out when you get a chance. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Karma -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org ___ Sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] SWF Sugar

2009-03-23 Thread Bryan Berry
They are not compatible at all they are just similar as actionscript is a variant of javascript. On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 08:14 -0600, Jameson Quinn wrote: I know very little about AJAX, and less about Flash. But I was under the impression that Actionscript was somewhat compatible with

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Gsoc] SWF Sugar

2009-03-24 Thread Bryan Berry
On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 10:51 -0400, Wade Brainerd wrote: For what it's worth, I think that *both* Web and SWF activity frameworks are high priority. Wade is right, both are important. HTML5 has great potential but is not a proven technology while flash is. I do not believe though that it is

[Sugar-devel] ideal flash activity to be remade as karma activity

2009-03-24 Thread Bryan Berry
http://hg.olenepal.org/6_Maths_CoOrdinates_22_swf/ Subzero, I think this might be a great flash activity to redo for Karma. Let me know if you have trouble running it on your regular machine. It is in Nepali but I think you will be able to figure it out. I really like how it demonstrates the

Re: [Sugar-devel] ideal flash activity to be remade as karma activity

2009-03-27 Thread Bryan Berry
! Jameson 2009/3/24 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org http://hg.olenepal.org/6_Maths_CoOrdinates_22_swf/ Subzero, I think this might be a great flash activity to redo for Karma. Let me know if you have trouble running it on your

Re: [Sugar-devel] ideal flash activity to be remade as karma activity

2009-03-29 Thread Bryan Berry
I really like this idea. Felipe, Wadeb what do you think? On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 04:49 +0200, Lucian Branescu wrote: There has been some talk about the interaction between my project and Felipe's. I've had an interesting chat with Bryan and Ben on #sugar. Here's the whole chat

Re: [Sugar-devel] ideal flash activity to be remade as karma activity

2009-03-31 Thread Bryan Berry
in this way our projects won't be mutually dependent and we can work in parallel btw, I rise the hand to use WebKit. greetings. 2009/3/29 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org I really like this idea. Felipe, Wadeb what do you think? On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 04:49 +0200, Lucian Branescu

[Sugar-devel] discussion of which javascript framework to use for Karma

2009-04-20 Thread Bryan Berry
Subzero, below is a conversation I had w/ my friend Christopher Marin who is a web developer. El es ecuadoreno pero crecimos juntos en Los Angeles. also, this google trends report should be of interest http://www.google.com/trends?q=dojo%2C+extjs%2C+jQuery%2C +mootoolsctab=0geo=alldate=ytdsort=0

Re: [Sugar-devel] discussion of which javascript framework to use for Karma

2009-04-21 Thread Bryan Berry
On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 13:47 +0100, Lucian Branescu wrote: jQuery makes the DOM suck less, that's it's main plus. I think the jQuery UI is complete enough for most tasks and doesn't have architectural constraints that keep it from getting better. It's also quite small. However, I don't

[Sugar-devel] suggested first Karma activity

2009-04-23 Thread Bryan Berry
Subzero, Our flash programmers suggest you try recreating this flash activity using karma. As you will soon notice, it is entirely in Nepali ;) They are working on translating it to English for you. http://hg.olenepal.org/3_Maths_Quadrilateral_1_swf/ -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director

Re: [Sugar-devel] suggested first Karma activity

2009-04-23 Thread Bryan Berry
Omji, do you have a translation for the actual text used inside the activity? On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 11:12 +0545, om yadav wrote: And here is the translation, please view the attached PDF document 2009/4/24 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org Subzero, Our flash

Re: [Sugar-devel] suggested first Karma activity

2009-04-24 Thread Bryan Berry
great! I thought it was just the translation for the teacher's note On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 11:38 +0545, om yadav wrote: That is the translation for the actual text used inside the activity On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: Omji

[Sugar-devel] progress testing dojo and jQuery? [KARMA]

2009-04-25 Thread Bryan Berry
Felipe, Last we talked you were testing out animations w/ dojo. How is that going? I am still working through the jQuery in Action book and haven't spent any serious time w/ dojo. We will have to rely on your work w/ dojo. I very much enjoyed this video about the good parts of javascript

[Sugar-devel] processing.js - tool to replace flash in websites [KARMA]

2009-04-26 Thread Bryan Berry
Hey Subzero, I just came across this blog post from John Resig, the creator of jQuery. He kicked off a processing.js to replace flash for animations. I am not really sure how it relates to jQuery http://processingjs.org/ he also has a new project sizzle that is a CSS3 selector engine

Re: [Sugar-devel] processing.js - tool to replace flash in websites [KARMA]

2009-04-26 Thread Bryan Berry
selector engine. I don't think it has much use outside of creating js libraries. 2009/4/26 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org: Hey Subzero, I just came across this blog post from John Resig, the creator of jQuery. He kicked off a processing.js to replace flash for animations. I am

[Sugar-devel] The Anatomy of a Karma Lesson

2009-04-27 Thread Bryan Berry
I have annotated the format of the Epaath lessons we have created here in Nepal for the sugar subproject Karma Please check it out: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Karma:Anatomy_of_a_Karma_Lesson -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] processing.js - tool to replace flash in websites [KARMA]

2009-04-28 Thread Bryan Berry
? felipe obviusly it depends of what I have centrino duo w/ 4 GB RAM and firefox uses up 40% of my cpu and XOrg jumpes to 30% CPU usage. This could improve dramatically w/ a different js rendering engine, as Lucian has pointed out. 2009/4/26 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org Hey Subzero

[Sugar-devel] [KARMA] don't need an ide for js

2009-05-03 Thread Bryan Berry
subzero, i am pretty darn blown away by how useful firebug is check out this tutorial http://www.evotech.net/blog/2007/06/introduction-to-firebug/ and the intro pages here: http://www.getfirebug.com i don't see myself using aptana or another special ide. firebug + emacs are a perfect fit. --

Re: [Sugar-devel] cool animation w/ all-javascript space invaders

2009-06-05 Thread Bryan Berry
regrettably, i haven't tried it on the XO. given that there is no wireless where i am right now, probably won't try it immediately I see no reason why js animations can't work on the XO. It all depends on the particular user used. On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 10:03 +0200, NoiseEHC wrote: Bryan Berry

[Sugar-devel] Problem using sugar-update-control to update large (100+ MB) activity bundles

2009-06-15 Thread Bryan Berry
We soon need to roll out updated version of Nepal's custom suite of activities, E-Paath. The updated bundle weighs in at a whopping 180 MB zipped and 300 MB unzipped. We have found it impractical to use the sugar-update-control mechanism to update the bundle. While E-Paath is large, the updated

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem using sugar-update-control to update large (100+ MB) activity bundles

2009-06-15 Thread Bryan Berry
On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 10:18 -0400, Ton van Overbeek wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Bryan Berrybr...@olenepal.org wrote: I would like to know if the newer version of sugar-control-update http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar-update-control/repos/mainline/blobs/master/src/model.py

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem using sugar-update-control to update large (100+ MB) activity bundles

2009-06-15 Thread Bryan Berry
On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 22:47 +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On 06/15/09 16:37, Bryan Berry wrote: I want to use rsync but I need a mechanism that the users (kids) can initiate through a simple GUI, like the current Activity Update mechanism. Rsync's unique capability to transmit only

[Sugar-devel] tutorials u can recommend?

2009-06-17 Thread Bryan Berry
subzero, i am trying to change 'quadirlaterals' to use regular dom elements for the buttons rather than drawings but am quite befuddled by canvas. I don't understand how it works. can u recommend to me some canvas tutorials? tks -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal,

Re: [Sugar-devel] my changes to Karma/quadrilaterals

2009-06-18 Thread Bryan Berry
)??? The circles should be part of canvas, as they are currently but the Next Previous and Erase can easily be dom elements 2009/6/18 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org since i can't get my login to work w/ gitorious after n # of attempts here are my changes, will try

Re: [Sugar-devel] demos testes with my XO

2009-06-19 Thread Bryan Berry
On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 04:19 -0500, Felipe López Toledo wrote: hi Bryan. I'm testinting Can and can't and Quadrilaterals with the XO-1 / ff3.5beta4. results: Can and can't:everything is outside its place :S Quadrilaterals: everything is in its place, I got a serious lag drawing the lines

Re: [Sugar-devel] demos testes with my XO

2009-06-19 Thread Bryan Berry
On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 04:42 -0500, Felipe López Toledo wrote: if everything is out of place that sounds like a css problem that be easily fixed yes, I used absolute positions that's the (first) problem I tried using relative positions yesterday w/ the canvases and it screwed up everything.

[Sugar-devel] testing out browser speed issues

2009-06-21 Thread Bryan Berry
subzero, it just occurred to me that the easiest webkit-based browser to run on the XO is probably Opera. Afaik, it doesn't have a ton of QT dependencies like Konqueror and u won't have to custom compile it for the XO. just a thought -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal,

Re: [Sugar-devel] testing out browser speed issues

2009-06-22 Thread Bryan Berry
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 11:38 +0100, Lucian Branescu wrote: Opera is not WebKit-based. It has its own engine, I believe called Presto. my mistake 2009/6/22 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org: subzero, it just occurred to me that the easiest webkit-based browser to run on the XO is probably Opera

[Sugar-devel] Some initial thoughts on i18n for Karma

2009-06-22 Thread Bryan Berry
Subzero and I have lately been discussing i18n (internationalization) strategies for Karma. Please bear w/ me as my i18n knowledge is quite limited and I am just now wading into this important, if complex, area. Subzero and I need to spend some quality time discussing the issue with Sayamindu but

[Sugar-devel] http://translate.sugarlabs.org/ down again

2009-06-23 Thread Bryan Berry
-- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Some initial thoughts on i18n for Karma

2009-06-23 Thread Bryan Berry
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 14:57 +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: The above layout looks fine to me. I think it should be quite easy to load LANGCODE/audiofile.ogg when you have the langcode. There is a somewhat undocumented algorithm to figure out fallback locale (eg: if locale is ne_NP, look

[Sugar-devel] thinking about i18n issues

2009-06-29 Thread Bryan Berry
I didn't get much coding done last week but I did a fair bit of reading about i18n and how to best apply it to Karma -- you can read more here: http://karmaproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/29/i18n-issues/ There are other issues that i didn't touch on, such as how to store and retrieve localized

[Sugar-devel] playing w/ i18n

2009-07-02 Thread Bryan Berry
subzero, i have been having a lot of discussions about i18n w/ the ever patient sayamindu and reading a lot on the subject. However, I haven't accomplished much. Here is my current playground http://karma.sugarlabs.org/yes_no/ am currently wrangling how to generate a meaningful po file from an

Re: [Sugar-devel] playing w/ i18n

2009-07-02 Thread Bryan Berry
/2 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org: subzero, i have been having a lot of discussions about i18n w/ the ever patient sayamindu and reading a lot on the subject. However, I haven't accomplished much. Here is my current playground http://karma.sugarlabs.org/yes_no/ am currently

[Sugar-devel] updated karma documentation

2009-07-02 Thread Bryan Berry
subzero, i have update the karma docs pls take a look when u get a chance http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Karma -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug tracker enhancements

2009-07-09 Thread Bryan Berry
On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 07:45 +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, Our current trac instance is missing some basic functionality: - versions per component: a really simple enhancement would be to have a text field (maybe some versions (sugar core) you can select from) but that we do not

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug tracker enhancements

2009-07-09 Thread Bryan Berry
here is the main features page for redmine http://www.redmine.org/wiki/redmine/Features On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 10:42 +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 07/09/2009 08:06 AM, Bryan Berry wrote: On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 07:45 +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, If u make each component a subproject

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug tracker enhancements

2009-07-09 Thread Bryan Berry
sure, i can work on it. i can try to put a couple hours into it tomorrow. can u send me the passwd in a pm? On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 07:40 -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 16:56 +0545, Bryan Berry wrote: here is the main features page for redmine http://www.redmine.org/wiki

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug tracker enhancements

2009-07-09 Thread Bryan Berry
On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 07:40 -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 16:56 +0545, Bryan Berry wrote: Would you like to help configure it to give us an idea of how it would work in practice? bernie: to be productive i will occasionally need your help. What times will u be online

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug tracker enhancements

2009-07-10 Thread Bryan Berry
On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 07:45 +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, Our current trac instance is missing some basic functionality: - versions per component: a really simple enhancement would be to have a text field (maybe some versions (sugar core) you can select from) but that we do not

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug tracker enhancements

2009-07-10 Thread Bryan Berry
I spent a couple hours playing w/ redmine version 0.84 this morning. It is still relatively tedious to manage large #'s of users compared to Trac. The trunk version promises much better user management. I will report back on this after working on it w/ bernie. I think redmine in general is much

[Sugar-devel] sane po file?

2009-07-12 Thread Bryan Berry
unmadindu, I have created a po file using jquery in a command-line script. Can u look at the pot and tell me if anything is egregiously wrong? I still need to fill in some of the msg header info. http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/karma/repos/mainline/blobs/master/utils/narwhal/i18n/test.pot If

[Sugar-devel] reading and writing translatable strings

2009-07-12 Thread Bryan Berry
Subzero, I have figured out how to read the strings from an html file, at least somewhat: utils/narwhal/bin/narwhal source.html output.pot generates a .pot file from the strings in one html file I haven't automated grabbing the strings from a .js file because it seems fairly straightforward.

Re: [Sugar-devel] reading and writing translatable strings

2009-07-12 Thread Bryan Berry
On Sun, 2009-07-12 at 12:37 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: If you seek a reliable way to handle translation of html, then I warmly recommend po4a: http://po4a.alioth.debian.org/ I wrote the Markdown extension of the text parser of that tool ;-) Kind regards, - Jonas tks jonas!

Re: [Sugar-devel] reading and writing translatable strings

2009-07-12 Thread Bryan Berry
a translate class). 2009/7/12 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org: Subzero, I have figured out how to read the strings from an html file, at least somewhat: utils/narwhal/bin/narwhal source.html output.pot generates a .pot file from the strings in one html file I haven't automated

Re: [Sugar-devel] sane po file?

2009-07-13 Thread Bryan Berry
On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 14:03 +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: it should be msgctxt HTML Tag: BUTTON ID: btnRestart msgid Restart msgstr Normally, you can use msgfmt --check filename to check the sanity of a POT or a PO file. tks for the feedback! i will fix it -- Bryan W. Berry

Re: [Sugar-devel] Request to add webkitgtk as a external dependency

2009-07-15 Thread Bryan Berry
On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 23:41 +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: I initially tried out whatever I wanted to do with Gecko, however, it looks like performance can be degraded quite a bit with larger books. To ensure proper pagination (the current form of Read depends on the document being properly

[Sugar-devel] best way to localize audio and image files?

2009-07-16 Thread Bryan Berry
Sayamindu, I need your thoughts on the matter of localizing audio files and image files. I have two strategies in mind: 1) Integrate w/ pootle 2) Not integrated w/ pootle 1) Integrate w/ pootle. When I grab the translatable strings from my files I also grab the filenames of the audio and

[Sugar-devel] localization meeting - Tuesday July 28 at 11:30 UTC -- Topic: Crowdsourcing Localized audio and images

2009-07-16 Thread Bryan Berry
Both Christoph and I have blogged about the issues of crowdsourcing localized audio and image files. http://karmaproject.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/localizing-images-and-audio-files/ http://blog.olenepal.org/index.php/archives/335 We are having a meeting with the l10n guru Sayamindu at 11:30 UTC

Re: [Sugar-devel] best way to localize audio and image files?

2009-07-16 Thread Bryan Berry
2009/7/16 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org Sayamindu, I need your thoughts on the matter of localizing audio files and image files. I have

[Sugar-devel] running surf on the XO

2009-07-20 Thread Bryan Berry
Christoph, u will have to load the packages pywebkitgtk and webkitgtk in order to run surf per this email http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-June/015402.html -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] running surf on the XO

2009-07-20 Thread Bryan Berry
there is actually a bit more to it sudo yum install pywebkitgtk WebKit-gtk gnome-python2-gconf from NOTES in the surf bundle On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 21:12 +0545, Bryan Berry wrote: Christoph, u will have to load the packages pywebkitgtk and webkitgtk in order to run surf per this email

[Sugar-devel] need a better name for starting page of karma than MenuStage

2009-07-20 Thread Bryan Berry
what should we call menustage? it is a horrible name. it is just not descriptive: http://www.pustakalaya.org/external-content/static/epaath/MenuStage.html I don't want to call it the frame because that word already has a meaning w/in sugar. i also don't want to call it anything w/ a religious

[Sugar-devel] reorganized the karma repo

2009-07-21 Thread Bryan Berry
pls let me know what you think http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/karma/repos/mainline/trees/master I reorged it according to the bundle layout specified here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Karma/Bundle_layout -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org

[Sugar-devel] menustage becomes karmaplatz.html

2009-07-21 Thread Bryan Berry
unless u have any strong objections, let's rename it to karmaplatz.html platz means plaza in German. karmaplatz sounds so odd that it is both memorable while at the same time easy to spell. -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] question about: Main Karma Package

2009-07-21 Thread Bryan Berry
On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 17:49 -0500, Felipe López Toledo wrote: Hi Bryan. I have one question about http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Karma/Bundle_layout I'm working with our new layout ;) until yesterday, each lesson could work independently. each lesson had their own js files. The beauty of

[Sugar-devel] karma dictionary started

2009-07-21 Thread Bryan Berry
i have started a dictionary so we can keep the terminology specific to karma straight http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Karma/Dictionary -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

[Sugar-devel] interesting blog article on webworkers

2009-07-22 Thread Bryan Berry
maybe this could be of help to us? http://ejohn.org/blog/web-workers/ -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] question about: Main Karma Package

2009-07-22 Thread Bryan Berry
for the rant, but I really believe you're making a mistake by not naming the file index.html. You may call the interface element 'karma index' if you like, because that's what it is. 2009/7/22 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org: On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 17:49 -0500, Felipe López Toledo wrote: Hi Bryan

Re: [Sugar-devel] status of adding up to 10?

2009-07-22 Thread Bryan Berry
) felipe 2009/7/22 Felipe López Toledo zer.subz...@gmail.com working on I think you're going to present karma, so I'm coding the plugin: jquery.karma.js 2009/7/22 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Fwd: geometry functions needed for Karma]

2009-07-22 Thread Bryan Berry
for these. 2009/7/23 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org Forwarded Message From: Felipe López Toledo zer.subz...@gmail.com To: Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org, Christoph Derndorfer christoph.derndor...@gmail.com, Sugar Devel sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Using Nutch for lesson search in Karma

2009-07-29 Thread Bryan Berry
we should be able to generate an index using a build script and not need any extra software dependencies on the client On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 15:37 +0545, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: Hi, while reading Mike Dawson's e-mail on the SDLI I stumbled across his reference to Nutch

Re: [Sugar-devel] Using Nutch for lesson search in Karma

2009-07-29 Thread Bryan Berry
or could i use nutch in the build script to generate these indexes? hmm... On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 15:37 +0545, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: Hi, while reading Mike Dawson's e-mail on the SDLI I stumbled across his reference to Nutch (http://wiki.apache.org/nutch/Features) and was now wondering

Re: [Sugar-devel] Using Nutch for lesson search in Karma

2009-07-29 Thread Bryan Berry
real fake search functionality just runs over pre-computed indexes. On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 13:50 +0545, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: So we'd really only offer a sitemap and no real search functionality? Christoph 2009/7/29 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org we should be able

Re: [Sugar-devel] Karma git, where to put my early UI designs

2009-07-29 Thread Bryan Berry
i think u should put the different ui designs in ROOT/ as index1.html, index2.html, indexn.html On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 20:28 -0500, Felipe López Toledo wrote: Hi Christoph I think you should put the content where it supposed to go. I mean, if you're working around /index.html, then the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Using Nutch for lesson search in Karma

2009-07-29 Thread Bryan Berry
? Christoph 2009/7/29 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org we should be able to generate an index using a build script and not need any extra software dependencies on the client On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 15:37 +0545, Christoph Derndorfer wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] Revised lesson UI based on initial feedback

2009-07-29 Thread Bryan Berry
On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 15:04 +0545, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: Hey guys, I've worked on the lesson UI and integrated the initial feedback from Bryan and Felipe. Changes compared to yesterday: * added placeholder logo for Chakra link * added download tab which links to a downloadable

Re: [Sugar-devel] Assessment in Karma

2009-07-29 Thread Bryan Berry
for reasons Bryan Berry talked about a lot. Awesome! How can we involve you more? is it time to for us to open a mailing list specific to karma? like sugar-ka...@l.s.o ? u can find christoph, myself, and the ole nepal team on #olenepal or #sugar Mon-Fri 03:00 -- 11:00 GMT (day time hours in Nepal

Re: [Sugar-devel] Assessment in Karma

2009-07-30 Thread Bryan Berry
On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 16:46 +0545, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: ChristophD, we really need to talk to sunil and kamana about assessment as they probably have a lot of good ideas. Well, actually

Re: [Sugar-devel] Karma collaboration

2009-07-31 Thread Bryan Berry
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 11:25 +0545, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: Thanks for the notes, definitely some interesting food for thought. However admittedly I personally believe that we have a whole host of other and IMHO more important issues to sort out before we should spend too much time on

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