Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
Tomeu Vizoso writes: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 20:20, Lucian Branescu lucian.branescu at gmail.com wrote: I'm new to Sugar, so I may be horribly wrong. But to me, the Journal seems more of an annoyance than anything else. A lot of the work I see done is towards bringing back some of the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
Tomeu Vizoso writes: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 04:54, forster at ozonline.com.au wrote: I am happy to expand this to the list. I have raised the journal once or twice before but mainly kept quiet not wanting to be trollish. ... The journal and sharing are probably the two central things that

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
James Zaki writes: Understanding hierarchical file structures use the concepts of containers and recursion with no limits (except for total capacity). It is not naturally intuitive, like a tree where branches get smaller from the trunk with fruit/leaves only at the end nodes. Empirically

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 04:58:17AM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: Tomeu Vizoso writes: I think it's very important if we want to keep pushing Sugar that we distinguish between design decisions and bugs and unimplemented features. If we bring

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread James Zaki
Not sure where my complete email went... something to do with awaiting approval I think. But just for clarity to all, I said the arrowed text. 2009/5/28 Albert Cahalan acaha...@gmail.com James Zaki writes: Understanding hierarchical file structures use the concepts of containers and

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:07, Albert Cahalan acaha...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/5/28 NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu: I think it's very important if we want to keep pushing Sugar that we distinguish between design decisions and bugs and unimplemented features. If we bring down good design ideas

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:29:23PM +0200, James Zaki wrote: Not sure where my complete email went... something to do with awaiting approval I think. [actual content snipped] Please subscribe to the lists that you post to, to bypass our spam

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 06:18:35AM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:49 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 04:58:17AM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: Tomeu Vizoso writes: I think it's very

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:34 AM, Albert Cahalan acaha...@gmail.com wrote: James Zaki writes: Understanding hierarchical file structures use the concepts of containers and recursion with no limits (except for total capacity). It is not naturally intuitive, like a tree where branches get

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread NoiseEHC
There are 3 different ideas when we are talking about Journal vs Directories: 1. Whether we are limiting the user to use exactly one filtering category for his/her documents (and lets call them Files and the filter the Files' Directory) or we allow multiple filters (and call them Tags). 2.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Sean DALY
I, too, encounter difficulty finding elements in the Journal but haven't found time yet to contribute to a feature discussion. just 2 cents about hierarchical representation: it certainly has uses. The coolest one I ever saw was 8 years ago by a company (trying to remember the name) that provides